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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    @jon-nyc said in Griner:

    The comments from Whelan’s family suggest the former, they said Biden did the right thing trading for Griner rather than hold out for a deal that can’t be done.

    Just came across this: https://people.com/sports/paul-whelans-family-devastated-hes-in-russia-but-happy-for-brittney-griner/

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    LuFins Dad
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    #32

    @Axtremus said in Griner:

    @jon-nyc said in Griner:

    The comments from Whelan’s family suggest the former, they said Biden did the right thing trading for Griner rather than hold out for a deal that can’t be done.

    Just came across this: https://people.com/sports/paul-whelans-family-devastated-hes-in-russia-but-happy-for-brittney-griner/

    Great… What about Fogel?

    Whalen, there is something to the story. Too many weird actions and a shaky history on his part. Fogel, though? Why aren’t people upset about him?

    The Brad

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      LuFins Dad
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      #33

      Nice to know the government places equivalent value on a stoner, lesbian, professional athlete of color and an arms dealer that has been called the definition of evil…

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        @Axtremus said in Griner:

        @jon-nyc said in Griner:

        The comments from Whelan’s family suggest the former, they said Biden did the right thing trading for Griner rather than hold out for a deal that can’t be done.

        Just came across this: https://people.com/sports/paul-whelans-family-devastated-hes-in-russia-but-happy-for-brittney-griner/

        Great… What about Fogel?

        Whalen, there is something to the story. Too many weird actions and a shaky history on his part. Fogel, though? Why aren’t people upset about him?

        George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #34

        @LuFins-Dad said in Griner:

        Whalen, there is something to the story. Too many weird actions and a shaky history on his part.

        I looked up the Wikipedia story on him.

        $80K in cash in Moscow? OK, then.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on last edited by
          #35

          Is it appropriate to refer to those dishonorably discharged as vets?

          The Brad

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #36

            Pretty damning description and story.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Whelan_(security_director)

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by Renauda
              #37

              Truth be known the US probably wanted or was negotiating to barter Bout for Snowden, but Putin conveniently granted Snowden Russian citizenship in order to preempt any chance of that deal to succeed. Putin thus turned the tables so it would be an extradition case. In the absence of a bilateral extradition treaty, the Russians would never extradite one of their own to the US.

              It then became a choice of take Griner or nothing.

              Elbows up!

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #38

                Seen on Twitter:

                “This is the first WNBA trade I’ve ever paid attention to”

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
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                  #39

                  This was kind of interesting.

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/brittney-griner-s-life-inside-a-russian-prison-revealed-in-newly-released-photos/ar-AA154qUJ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=fce619697f4f4436955695066206aa57

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #40

                    How long before she gets a book deal and a Netflix miniseries?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Jolly
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                      #41

                      Less than 90 days on the book deal.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #42

                        "The best deal since Bowe Bergdahl."

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #43

                          Screenshot 2022-12-09 at 3.14.53 PM.png

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • MikM Away
                            MikM Away
                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #44

                            It will be interesting to see if her outlook has changed.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              #45

                              Russian state television mocks U.S. for Brittney Griner prisoner exchange

                              Russian state television, which is notorious for propaganda, discussed the exchange, mocking the United States for swapping Griner instead of Whelan.

                              A program moderator referred to Whelan as a "spy," saying that Whelan is a hero to Americans. However, the moderator specified three things against Whelan regarding the U.S. winning his release.

                              "His first problem is that he is white," the moderator said, according to a translation obtained by Fox News Digital. "His second problem is he is a man. His third problem: He is a heterosexual.

                              "This is not something that can be forgiven today. It’s just a catastrophe. Yes, here Griner beats him in every aspect."

                              The moderator goes on to falsely claim "American voters" were given a choice between Griner and Whelan in exchange for the "Merchant of Death," when in fact it was the Biden administration that made the decision.

                              The moderator added that it was a victory for Russia that the U.S. chose a celebrity over a former Marine, as it shows what the United States values.

                              https://www.foxnews.com/sports/russia-state-television-mocks-u-s-for-brittney-griner-prisoner-exchange

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                              • CopperC Copper

                                Russian state television mocks U.S. for Brittney Griner prisoner exchange

                                Russian state television, which is notorious for propaganda, discussed the exchange, mocking the United States for swapping Griner instead of Whelan.

                                A program moderator referred to Whelan as a "spy," saying that Whelan is a hero to Americans. However, the moderator specified three things against Whelan regarding the U.S. winning his release.

                                "His first problem is that he is white," the moderator said, according to a translation obtained by Fox News Digital. "His second problem is he is a man. His third problem: He is a heterosexual.

                                "This is not something that can be forgiven today. It’s just a catastrophe. Yes, here Griner beats him in every aspect."

                                The moderator goes on to falsely claim "American voters" were given a choice between Griner and Whelan in exchange for the "Merchant of Death," when in fact it was the Biden administration that made the decision.

                                The moderator added that it was a victory for Russia that the U.S. chose a celebrity over a former Marine, as it shows what the United States values.

                                https://www.foxnews.com/sports/russia-state-television-mocks-u-s-for-brittney-griner-prisoner-exchange

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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                #46

                                @Copper said in Griner:

                                Russian state television mocks U.S. for Brittney Griner prisoner exchange

                                Russian state television, which is notorious for propaganda, discussed the exchange, mocking the United States for swapping Griner instead of Whelan.

                                A program moderator referred to Whelan as a "spy," saying that Whelan is a hero to Americans. However, the moderator specified three things against Whelan regarding the U.S. winning his release.

                                "His first problem is that he is white," the moderator said, according to a translation obtained by Fox News Digital. "His second problem is he is a man. His third problem: He is a heterosexual.

                                "This is not something that can be forgiven today. It’s just a catastrophe. Yes, here Griner beats him in every aspect."

                                The moderator goes on to falsely claim "American voters" were given a choice between Griner and Whelan in exchange for the "Merchant of Death," when in fact it was the Biden administration that made the decision.

                                The moderator added that it was a victory for Russia that the U.S. chose a celebrity over a former Marine, as it shows what the United States values.

                                https://www.foxnews.com/sports/russia-state-television-mocks-u-s-for-brittney-griner-prisoner-exchange

                                I guess you take your victories where you can. The fact that their sad excuse for a military is being humiliated on a daily basis by American supplied weaponry isn't something they want to talk about.

                                "But hey, we got our murderous thug back!"

                                I was only joking

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #47

                                  LOL.

                                  Screenshot 2022-12-11 at 10.47.09 AM.png

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • jon-nycJ Online
                                    jon-nycJ Online
                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #48

                                    Lol

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Seen on Twitter:

                                      “This is the first WNBA trade I’ve ever paid attention to”

                                      George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #49

                                      @jon-nyc said in Griner:

                                      Seen on Twitter:

                                      “This is the first WNBA trade I’ve ever paid attention to”

                                      Screenshot 2022-12-12 at 12.30.02 PM.png

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        taiwan_girl
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #50

                                        QUOTE
                                        Once known as the "Merchant of Death," Bout has thrown his hat in the ring as a candidate for the regional assembly in Ulyanovsk, an area of southwestern Russia that is home to 1.3 million people and about a 12-hour drive from Moscow. The election is taking place on Sunday.

                                        "When you're absent for 15 years from country, you need to start somewhere," Bout told the Times. "So for me, going into regional office, it's a better way to understand the problems. I need to meet people. I need to learn how they live."

                                        The career pivot isn't the only challenge facing Bout, who was first arrested by police in Thailand in 2008 before his extradition to the United States. He told the Times he's still learning how to use smartphones and exploring modern technology, like electric buses.
                                        UNQUOTE

                                        https://www.businessinsider.nl/the-former-russian-arms-dealer-known-as-the-merchant-of-death-who-the-us-exchanged-for-brittney-griner-is-back-in-russia-and-now-learning-to-use-a-smartphone/

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                                          George K
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                                          #51

                                          https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/7/freed-russian-arms-dealer-viktor-bout-back-in-business-report

                                          Viktor Bout, the Russian arms dealer who was jailed in the United States and then swapped two years ago for the US basketball star Brittney Griner, has resumed trading weapons, according to the Wall Street Journal.

                                          Citing an unnamed European security source and other anonymous sources familiar with the matter, the newspaper reported on Sunday that Bout, dubbed “the merchant of death” was trying to broker the sale of small arms to Yemen’s Iran-backed Houthi armed group.

                                          “When Houthi emissaries went to Moscow in August to negotiate the purchase of $10 million worth of automatic weapons, they encountered a familiar face: the mustachioed Bout,” the Journal said, citing its sources.

                                          The potential arms transfers have yet to be delivered, it reported. The weapons fall well short of the Russian antiship or anti-air missiles that could pose a significant threat to the US military’s efforts to protect international shipping from Houthi attacks, it added.

                                          It was not possible to independently verify the report. The Kremlin and Russia’s Ministry of Defence did not immediately respond to requests for comment from the Reuters news agency.

                                          The WSJ reported that Steve Zissou, a New York lawyer who represented Bout in the US, had declined to discuss whether his client had met the Houthis, and that a Houthi spokesman declined to comment.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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