BMJ: COVID boosters unethical in young adults
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That military vaccine mandate seems like not such a good idea anymore…
And all the colleges that had the booster mandates? I wonder when the lawsuits begin.
@LuFins-Dad said in BMJ: COVID boosters unethical in young adults:
That military vaccine mandate seems like not such a good idea anymore…
I was just about to ask, how long until this headline gets morphed into “vaccines are unethical in 18-29 year olds” but the answer would have been negative 5 minutes.
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@LuFins-Dad said in BMJ: COVID boosters unethical in young adults:
That military vaccine mandate seems like not such a good idea anymore…
I was just about to ask, how long until this headline gets morphed into “vaccines are unethical in 18-29 year olds” but the answer would have been negative 5 minutes.
@jon-nyc said in BMJ: COVID boosters unethical in young adults:
@LuFins-Dad said in BMJ: COVID boosters unethical in young adults:
That military vaccine mandate seems like not such a good idea anymore…
I was just about to ask, how long until this headline gets morphed into “vaccines are unethical in 18-29 year olds” but the answer would have been negative 5 minutes.
We can safely use this 20/20 hindsight to at least calibrate our reactions next time the Jon Stewarts of the world eyeroll and giggle their disdain for people "just asking questions". Now that we know these are the sorts of answers one might get to those questions.
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My colleague on the board of my foundation, very vax friendly and she oversaw my super vax schedule, has long held the position that the booster (the original booster) was an ever-so-slight net danger to teenage to twenty something boys. She holds a prominent position at Columbia University and was able to convince the administration not to require the booster for students. This is the old booster (late 21), not the bivalent.
She has 2 twenty-something sons, both had two vaxes and no boosters.
To be clear the adolescent male is the only sub-population for which the calculation comes out this way. Other male cohorts and all female cohorts are better off with the vaccine.
@jon-nyc said in BMJ: COVID boosters unethical in young adults:
My colleague on the board of my foundation, very vax friendly and she oversaw my super vax schedule, has long held the position that the booster (the original booster) was an ever-so-slight net danger to teenage to twenty something boys. She holds a prominent position at Columbia University and was able to convince the administration not to require the booster for students. This is the old booster (late 21), not the bivalent.
She has 2 twenty-something sons, both had two vaxes and no boosters.
To be clear the adolescent male is the only sub-population for which the calculation comes out this way. Other male cohorts and all female cohorts are better off with the vaccine.
I wonder if the net harm by making whether or not you should get the booster confusing outweighs the benefit of not boosting. It would seem we are talking very small differences.
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@jon-nyc said in BMJ: COVID boosters unethical in young adults:
My colleague on the board of my foundation, very vax friendly and she oversaw my super vax schedule, has long held the position that the booster (the original booster) was an ever-so-slight net danger to teenage to twenty something boys. She holds a prominent position at Columbia University and was able to convince the administration not to require the booster for students. This is the old booster (late 21), not the bivalent.
She has 2 twenty-something sons, both had two vaxes and no boosters.
To be clear the adolescent male is the only sub-population for which the calculation comes out this way. Other male cohorts and all female cohorts are better off with the vaccine.
I wonder if the net harm by making whether or not you should get the booster confusing outweighs the benefit of not boosting. It would seem we are talking very small differences.
@Mik said in BMJ: COVID boosters unethical in young adults:
@jon-nyc said in BMJ: COVID boosters unethical in young adults:
My colleague on the board of my foundation, very vax friendly and she oversaw my super vax schedule, has long held the position that the booster (the original booster) was an ever-so-slight net danger to teenage to twenty something boys. She holds a prominent position at Columbia University and was able to convince the administration not to require the booster for students. This is the old booster (late 21), not the bivalent.
She has 2 twenty-something sons, both had two vaxes and no boosters.
To be clear the adolescent male is the only sub-population for which the calculation comes out this way. Other male cohorts and all female cohorts are better off with the vaccine.
I wonder if the net harm by making whether or not you should get the booster confusing outweighs the benefit of not boosting. It would seem we are talking very small differences.
I say let it be confusing and muddy if the truth about what we know is confusing and muddy. Down with oversimplified messaging “for everybody’s own good”.
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Miniscule is important in medicine.
First, do no harm.
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@Jolly said in BMJ: COVID boosters unethical in young adults:
Miniscule is important in medicine.
First, do no harm.
And the reason that is the first principle of medicine is because those who understood the history of the practice understood it needed to be. Blind faith in medical experts has a sordid history.
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Mik - it’s very true that the absolute difference in risk is tiny. So look for partisan bifurcation between discussing this using (to use the terms of biostatistical art) relative risk (sounds scarier) and risk difference (sounds trivial).
Having said all that, I think we should remain truthful at all costs since lying to the public “for their own good” has so demonstrably backfired.
