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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    @Larry said in The Generals:

    Did anyone elect any of these men to be in charge? No? Then they should shut the hell up

    Then who should be allowed to speak? Only those who agree with President Trump?

    Should teh Democrats only allow those to speak who agree with them?

    Again, neither party is good in this area.

    To the statements by the military and ex- military. At some point, you have to give some weight to what they are saying, based on their service in the military, their service in the government, and their (those who did serve) service in President Trumps administration. If it was just one person, it can be dismissed. But when multiple respected people are saying it ...........

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    @taiwan_girl said in The Generals:

    @Larry said in The Generals:

    Did anyone elect any of these men to be in charge? No? Then they should shut the hell up

    Then who should be allowed to speak? Only those who agree with President Trump?

    Should teh Democrats only allow those to speak who agree with them?

    Again, neither party is good in this area.

    To the statements by the military and ex- military. At some point, you have to give some weight to what they are saying, based on their service in the military, their service in the government, and their (those who did serve) service in President Trumps administration. If it was just one person, it can be dismissed. But when multiple respected people are saying it ...........

    Actually...Because all of these guys are generals, they are subject to recall and the Code of Military Justice. It would be a public relations nightmare, but they could be recalled and prosecuted under the Code for defamation of the Commander in Chief. Punishment could include a reduction in rank, and as such, a significant cut in their pensions.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      taiwan_girl
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      #10

      @Jolly Interesting information. Thanks!!

      Here is an article I found that discusses it.

      Article 88 in Uniform Code of Military Justice

      from my understanding, a person has to be currently part of the military for it to apply.

      From the article:
      The main reason for this regulation is to keep military members who have access to major weapons of war to ever get involved in politics. Once they are retired or resigned their commission and a civilian citizen, they may partake in such political arguments in both written or spoken word.

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        Larry
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        #11

        It's legal to grab hold of a bare electric wire that has 220 volts running through it too, but that doesn't mean you should.

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          Catseye3
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          #12

          I didn't delve deep in this story . . . What I see is a number of high-ranking officers publicly expressing dismay at the threat of an American head of state contemplating siccing military troops on American citizens.

          As well they might.

          Possibly this was their way of making clear that they would not obey such an order.

          As well they might.

          You think these men and many others in the military haven't burned up the wires over this? You think Trump hasn't gotten a faceful of shit over it?

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            @Jolly Interesting information. Thanks!!

            Here is an article I found that discusses it.

            Article 88 in Uniform Code of Military Justice

            from my understanding, a person has to be currently part of the military for it to apply.

            From the article:
            The main reason for this regulation is to keep military members who have access to major weapons of war to ever get involved in politics. Once they are retired or resigned their commission and a civilian citizen, they may partake in such political arguments in both written or spoken word.

            JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #13

            @taiwan_girl said in The Generals:

            @Jolly Interesting information. Thanks!!

            Here is an article I found that discusses it.

            Article 88 in Uniform Code of Military Justice

            from my understanding, a person has to be currently part of the military for it to apply.

            From the article:
            The main reason for this regulation is to keep military members who have access to major weapons of war to ever get involved in politics. Once they are retired or resigned their commission and a civilian citizen, they may partake in such political arguments in both written or spoken word.

            Generals are subject to recall at any time.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • Catseye3C Catseye3

              I didn't delve deep in this story . . . What I see is a number of high-ranking officers publicly expressing dismay at the threat of an American head of state contemplating siccing military troops on American citizens.

              As well they might.

              Possibly this was their way of making clear that they would not obey such an order.

              As well they might.

              You think these men and many others in the military haven't burned up the wires over this? You think Trump hasn't gotten a faceful of shit over it?

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              Jolly
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              @Catseye3 said in The Generals:

              I didn't delve deep in this story . . . What I see is a number of high-ranking officers publicly expressing dismay at the threat of an American head of state contemplating siccing military troops on American citizens.

              As well they might.

              Possibly this was their way of making clear that they would not obey such an order.

              As well they might.

              You think these men and many others in the military haven't burned up the wires over this? You think Trump hasn't gotten a faceful of shit over it?

              You think he actually cares?

              LBJ used both the 82nd and 101st in 1967 and 1968. Bush 41 also used active duty military. There were no legal problems.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @Catseye3 said in The Generals:

                I didn't delve deep in this story . . . What I see is a number of high-ranking officers publicly expressing dismay at the threat of an American head of state contemplating siccing military troops on American citizens.

                As well they might.

                Possibly this was their way of making clear that they would not obey such an order.

                As well they might.

                You think these men and many others in the military haven't burned up the wires over this? You think Trump hasn't gotten a faceful of shit over it?

                You think he actually cares?

                LBJ used both the 82nd and 101st in 1967 and 1968. Bush 41 also used active duty military. There were no legal problems.

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                Catseye3
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                @Jolly said in The Generals:

                LBJ used both the 82nd and 101st in 1967 and 1968. Bush 41 also used active duty military. There were no legal problems.

                Different times, different conditions.

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                • Catseye3C Catseye3

                  @Jolly said in The Generals:

                  LBJ used both the 82nd and 101st in 1967 and 1968. Bush 41 also used active duty military. There were no legal problems.

                  Different times, different conditions.

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                  @Catseye3 said in The Generals:

                  @Jolly said in The Generals:

                  LBJ used both the 82nd and 101st in 1967 and 1968. Bush 41 also used active duty military. There were no legal problems.

                  Different times, different conditions.

                  Same laws.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • Catseye3C Catseye3

                    @Jolly said in The Generals:

                    LBJ used both the 82nd and 101st in 1967 and 1968. Bush 41 also used active duty military. There were no legal problems.

                    Different times, different conditions.

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                    @Catseye3 said in The Generals:

                    @Jolly said in The Generals:

                    LBJ used both the 82nd and 101st in 1967 and 1968. Bush 41 also used active duty military. There were no legal problems.

                    Different times, different conditions.

                    Bull shit.

                    It has been well documented that Obama got rid of all the genuine military leaders and replaced them with yes men. Now these yes men are complaining because Trump has suggested doing what past presidents actually did back when we had real leaders in the military instead of these candy assed Obama yes men.

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @taiwan_girl said in The Generals:

                      @Jolly Interesting information. Thanks!!

                      Here is an article I found that discusses it.

                      Article 88 in Uniform Code of Military Justice

                      from my understanding, a person has to be currently part of the military for it to apply.

                      From the article:
                      The main reason for this regulation is to keep military members who have access to major weapons of war to ever get involved in politics. Once they are retired or resigned their commission and a civilian citizen, they may partake in such political arguments in both written or spoken word.

                      Generals are subject to recall at any time.

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                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #18

                      @Jolly said in The Generals:

                      @taiwan_girl said in The Generals:

                      @Jolly Interesting information. Thanks!!

                      Here is an article I found that discusses it.

                      Article 88 in Uniform Code of Military Justice

                      from my understanding, a person has to be currently part of the military for it to apply.

                      From the article:
                      The main reason for this regulation is to keep military members who have access to major weapons of war to ever get involved in politics. Once they are retired or resigned their commission and a civilian citizen, they may partake in such political arguments in both written or spoken word.

                      Generals are subject to recall at any time.

                      That is interesting. It would be an Interesting case if a former general runs for president.

                      The code says:
                      “Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

                      But, what is contemptuous words exactly?

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        @Jolly said in The Generals:

                        @taiwan_girl said in The Generals:

                        @Jolly Interesting information. Thanks!!

                        Here is an article I found that discusses it.

                        Article 88 in Uniform Code of Military Justice

                        from my understanding, a person has to be currently part of the military for it to apply.

                        From the article:
                        The main reason for this regulation is to keep military members who have access to major weapons of war to ever get involved in politics. Once they are retired or resigned their commission and a civilian citizen, they may partake in such political arguments in both written or spoken word.

                        Generals are subject to recall at any time.

                        That is interesting. It would be an Interesting case if a former general runs for president.

                        The code says:
                        “Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

                        But, what is contemptuous words exactly?

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                        Jolly
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                        @taiwan_girl said in The Generals:

                        @Jolly said in The Generals:

                        @taiwan_girl said in The Generals:

                        @Jolly Interesting information. Thanks!!

                        Here is an article I found that discusses it.

                        Article 88 in Uniform Code of Military Justice

                        from my understanding, a person has to be currently part of the military for it to apply.

                        From the article:
                        The main reason for this regulation is to keep military members who have access to major weapons of war to ever get involved in politics. Once they are retired or resigned their commission and a civilian citizen, they may partake in such political arguments in both written or spoken word.

                        Generals are subject to recall at any time.

                        That is interesting. It would be an Interesting case if a former general runs for president.

                        The code says:
                        “Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

                        But, what is contemptuous words exactly?

                        Anything disparaging, especially any type of public utterence.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @taiwan_girl said in The Generals:

                          @Jolly said in The Generals:

                          @taiwan_girl said in The Generals:

                          @Jolly Interesting information. Thanks!!

                          Here is an article I found that discusses it.

                          Article 88 in Uniform Code of Military Justice

                          from my understanding, a person has to be currently part of the military for it to apply.

                          From the article:
                          The main reason for this regulation is to keep military members who have access to major weapons of war to ever get involved in politics. Once they are retired or resigned their commission and a civilian citizen, they may partake in such political arguments in both written or spoken word.

                          Generals are subject to recall at any time.

                          That is interesting. It would be an Interesting case if a former general runs for president.

                          The code says:
                          “Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

                          But, what is contemptuous words exactly?

                          Anything disparaging, especially any type of public utterence.

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                          @Jolly said in The Generals:

                          @taiwan_girl said in The Generals:

                          The code says:
                          “Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

                          But, what is contemptuous words exactly?

                          Anything disparaging, especially any type of public utterence.

                          Interestingly, if you look at the article, all of the 'contemptuous words' come from retired personnel, and not subject to court-martial. None of the active members of the military said anything contemptuous.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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