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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    So, a majority of people can choose a candidate as their number one selection, yet that candidate can lose the race?

    That's not democracy, my friend.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      BTW, as I understand it, Nevada is going to ranked choice voting.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        So, a majority of people can choose a candidate as their number one selection, yet that candidate can lose the race?

        That's not democracy, my friend.

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        @Jolly said in The problem with ranked voting...:

        So, a majority of people can choose a candidate as their number one selection, yet that candidate can lose the race?

        That's not democracy, my friend.

        A majority of voters selected Warnock in GA, but that’s going to a runoff…

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          @Jolly said in The problem with ranked voting...:

          So, a majority of people can choose a candidate as their number one selection, yet that candidate can lose the race?

          That's not democracy, my friend.

          A majority of voters selected Warnock in GA, but that’s going to a runoff…

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          @LuFins-Dad said in The problem with ranked voting...:

          @Jolly said in The problem with ranked voting...:

          So, a majority of people can choose a candidate as their number one selection, yet that candidate can lose the race?

          That's not democracy, my friend.

          A majority of voters selected Warnock in GA, but that’s going to a runoff…

          We have the same law in Louisiana. A majority is considered 50% + 1.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @LuFins-Dad said in The problem with ranked voting...:

            @Jolly said in The problem with ranked voting...:

            So, a majority of people can choose a candidate as their number one selection, yet that candidate can lose the race?

            That's not democracy, my friend.

            A majority of voters selected Warnock in GA, but that’s going to a runoff…

            We have the same law in Louisiana. A majority is considered 50% + 1.

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            @Jolly said in The problem with ranked voting...:

            @LuFins-Dad said in The problem with ranked voting...:

            @Jolly said in The problem with ranked voting...:

            So, a majority of people can choose a candidate as their number one selection, yet that candidate can lose the race?

            That's not democracy, my friend.

            A majority of voters selected Warnock in GA, but that’s going to a runoff…

            We have the same law in Louisiana. A majority is considered 50% + 1.

            Well, in that case, a majority did not select the other Republican in Alaska. It’s 42-41 if I remember correctly.

            The Brad

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              Then have a run-off. One man, one vote for a candidate of his choice.

              A pox on multiple choices.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                @Jolly said in The problem with ranked voting...:

                @LuFins-Dad said in The problem with ranked voting...:

                @Jolly said in The problem with ranked voting...:

                So, a majority of people can choose a candidate as their number one selection, yet that candidate can lose the race?

                That's not democracy, my friend.

                A majority of voters selected Warnock in GA, but that’s going to a runoff…

                We have the same law in Louisiana. A majority is considered 50% + 1.

                Well, in that case, a majority did not select the other Republican in Alaska. It’s 42-41 if I remember correctly.

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                @LuFins-Dad said in The problem with ranked voting...:

                a majority did not select the other Republican in Alaska

                Or a president in, 2016, 2000,1996,1992, etc..

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  @LuFins-Dad said in The problem with ranked voting...:

                  a majority did not select the other Republican in Alaska

                  Or a president in, 2016, 2000,1996,1992, etc..

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                  @George-K said in The problem with ranked voting...:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in The problem with ranked voting...:

                  a majority did not select the other Republican in Alaska

                  Or a president in, 2016, 2000,1996,1992, etc..

                  Different system. Interestingly enough, I've seen some mutterings about trying that on a state level.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @George-K said in The problem with ranked voting...:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in The problem with ranked voting...:

                    a majority did not select the other Republican in Alaska

                    Or a president in, 2016, 2000,1996,1992, etc..

                    Different system. Interestingly enough, I've seen some mutterings about trying that on a state level.

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                    @Jolly said in The problem with ranked voting...:

                    Different system.

                    Of course. But in all those years that I cited (and many, many more before that) a majority of the population didn't chose the man who became POTUS.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      So, a majority of people can choose a candidate as their number one selection, yet that candidate can lose the race?

                      That's not democracy, my friend.

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                      @Jolly said in The problem with ranked voting...:

                      So, a majority of people can choose a candidate as their number one selection, yet that candidate can lose the race?

                      That's not democracy, my friend.

                      A majority of Americans can choose a candidate as their President yet the candidate can lose the race. Yet I don’t see you complaining about the electoral college.

                      Anyway, got a university or community college near you? Take a game theory class if one is available, else a statistics class.

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        So, a majority of people can choose a candidate as their number one selection, yet that candidate can lose the race?

                        That's not democracy, my friend.

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                        jon-nyc
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                        @Jolly said in The problem with ranked voting...:

                        So, a majority of people can choose a candidate as their number one selection, yet that candidate can lose the race?

                        No. Ranked choice only comes into play if no one gets a majority.

                        It’s basically just a pre-registered set of runoffs. If Murkowsky beats Tshibaca it will be because more Alaskans prefer Murkowsky over her, period.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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