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The Democrats long goodbye to the working class

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  • MikM Offline
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    First time I've seen the Atlantic get anything close to right.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-long-goodbye-to-the-working-class/ar-AA13Nlga?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8a385788cdfc45efa7e541260e57c0c4

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      Trump.

      Plus extreme woke-ism.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        This year, Democrats have chosen to run a campaign focused on three things: abortion rights, gun control, and safeguarding democracy

        If only choir votes counted more than swing votes, that might be a good messaging strategy.

        Education is extremely important.

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          A rigorous accounting of vote shifts toward Trump, however, shows that they were concentrated among white voters—particularly those without college degrees—with moderate views on race and immigration, and not among white voters with high levels of racial resentment. The political scientists Justin Grimmer and William Marble concluded that racial resentment simply could not explain the shifts that occurred in the 2016 election. In fact, Trump netted fewer votes from white voters with high levels of racial resentment than Mitt Romney did in 2012.

          Now there's a money quote.

          But since the race narrative is a religion rather than an ideology, and since it's never been rigorously evidence-based, I suppose we'll be stuck with it forever.

          Education is extremely important.

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            A rigorous accounting of vote shifts toward Trump, however, shows that they were concentrated among white voters—particularly those without college degrees—with moderate views on race and immigration, and not among white voters with high levels of racial resentment. The political scientists Justin Grimmer and William Marble concluded that racial resentment simply could not explain the shifts that occurred in the 2016 election. In fact, Trump netted fewer votes from white voters with high levels of racial resentment than Mitt Romney did in 2012.

            Now there's a money quote.

            But since the race narrative is a religion rather than an ideology, and since it's never been rigorously evidence-based, I suppose we'll be stuck with it forever.

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            @Horace said in The Democrats long goodbye to the working class:

            A rigorous accounting of vote shifts toward Trump, however, shows that they were concentrated among white voters—particularly those without college degrees—with moderate views on race and immigration, and not among white voters with high levels of racial resentment. The political scientists Justin Grimmer and William Marble concluded that racial resentment simply could not explain the shifts that occurred in the 2016 election. In fact, Trump netted fewer votes from white voters with high levels of racial resentment than Mitt Romney did in 2012.

            Now there's a money quote.

            But since the race narrative is a religion rather than an ideology, and since it's never been rigorously evidence-based, I suppose we'll be stuck with it forever.

            Doesn’t matter. If you say it often enough, it becomes the truth.

            The Brad

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              The left gave up the working class 20 or more years ago. Certainly ever since the 1990’s.

              Elbows up!

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              • MikM Mik

                First time I've seen the Atlantic get anything close to right.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-long-goodbye-to-the-working-class/ar-AA13Nlga?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8a385788cdfc45efa7e541260e57c0c4

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                @Mik said in The Democrats long goodbye to the working class:

                First time I've seen the Atlantic get anything close to right.

                I can’t imagine you look at it much, they have contributors all over the map. I imagine that, between David French, Caitlin Flanagan, John McWhorter and Tim Alberta, you’d find plenty to agree with.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  I’ve heard the author on a podcast before, maybe two years ago. He is a good cultural observer and a smart guy. Reminds me of Matt yglesias. Who may be who I heard him talking to on the podcast.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    @Mik said in The Democrats long goodbye to the working class:

                    First time I've seen the Atlantic get anything close to right.

                    I can’t imagine you look at it much, they have contributors all over the map. I imagine that, between David French, Caitlin Flanagan, John McWhorter and Tim Alberta, you’d find plenty to agree with.

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                    @jon-nyc said in The Democrats long goodbye to the working class:

                    @Mik said in The Democrats long goodbye to the working class:

                    First time I've seen the Atlantic get anything close to right.

                    I can’t imagine you look at it much, they have contributors all over the map. I imagine that, between David French, Caitlin Flanagan, John McWhorter and Tim Alberta, you’d find plenty to agree with.

                    It's better than Slate, I'll give it that. But no, I don't read it a lot.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      I’ve heard the author on a podcast before, maybe two years ago. He is a good cultural observer and a smart guy. Reminds me of Matt yglesias. Who may be who I heard him talking to on the podcast.

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                      @Horace said in The Democrats long goodbye to the working class:

                      I’ve heard the author on a podcast before, maybe two years ago. He is a good cultural observer and a smart guy. Reminds me of Matt yglesias. Who may be who I heard him talking to on the podcast.

                      https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/87477

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        Huh, how about that… I read a column on the guy’s sub stack a few days ago. I might haven posted it here… https://theliberalpatriot.substack.com/p/hispanic-voters-on-the-eve-of-the?utm_medium=reader2

                        The Brad

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