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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    #32

    All indications from what I have seen are that he legit broke into the house.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #33

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        #34

        Politico decries https://www.politico.com/news/2022/10/31/conservatives-disinformation-paul-pelosi-assault-00064208 from the right:

        Among those baseless claims: that a third person answered the door when police arrived at the Pelosi home, which San Francisco law enforcement has said is untrue; and that DePape was in his underwear when apprehended, a falsehood taken from a since-corrected local news report.

        Also politico:

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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          JollyJ Offline
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          #35

          @George-K said in More whackadoodle stuff.:

          Don't know as I would call the guy in the mask a Ferrari...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            The cameras were on, but no one was watching.

            Inside the command center for the U.S. Capitol Police, a handful of officers were going through their routines early Friday morning, cycling through live feeds from the department’s 1,800 cameras used to monitor the nearby Capitol complex as well as some points beyond, when an officer stopped. On a screen showing a darkened street nearly 3,000 miles away, police lights were flashing outside the home of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), officials say.
            The officer in D.C. quickly pulled up additional camera angles from around Pelosi’s home and began to backtrack, watching recordings from the minutes before San Francisco police arrived. There, on camera, was a man with a hammer, breaking a glass panel and entering the speaker’s home, according to three people familiar with how Capitol Police learned of the break-in and who have been briefed on or viewed the video themselves.
            The 911 call and the struggle inside the home that followed have led to charges of attempted homicide of the speaker’s husband, and attempted kidnapping of the speaker, who is second in line to the presidency. The incident has also put a spotlight on the immensity — and perhaps the impossibility — of law enforcement’s task to protect the 535 members of Congress at a time of unprecedented numbers of threats against them.
            The Capitol Police first installed cameras around Pelosi’s home more than eight years ago; she has an around-the-clock security detail; and for many months after the attacks of Jan. 6, 2021, a San Francisco police cruiser sat outside her home day and night. But hours after Pelosi left San Francisco last week and returned to D.C., much of the security left with her, and officers in Washington stopped continuously monitoring video feeds outside her house.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              #37

              @Jolly said in More whackadoodle stuff.:

              @George-K said in More whackadoodle stuff.:

              Don't know as I would call the guy in the mask a Ferrari...

              I think they are referring to Nancy as the Ferrari.

              And if so, then she’s the Mondial…

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                @Jolly said in More whackadoodle stuff.:

                @George-K said in More whackadoodle stuff.:

                Don't know as I would call the guy in the mask a Ferrari...

                I think they are referring to Nancy as the Ferrari.

                And if so, then she’s the Mondial…

                JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                #38

                @LuFins-Dad said in More whackadoodle stuff.:

                @Jolly said in More whackadoodle stuff.:

                @George-K said in More whackadoodle stuff.:

                Don't know as I would call the guy in the mask a Ferrari...

                I think they are referring to Nancy as the Ferrari.

                And if so, then she’s the Mondial…

                I bet when she takes off that bra with the steel reinforced straps, small dogs would be killed if they were in the Drop Zone.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • George KG Offline
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                  #39

                  Releasing the body-cam video just fuels conspiracy theories.

                  OK, WaPo...

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    Releasing the body-cam video just fuels conspiracy theories.

                    OK, WaPo...

                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
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                    #40

                    @George-K said in More whackadoodle stuff.:

                    Releasing the body-cam video just fuels conspiracy theories.

                    OK, WaPo...

                    They aren’t even really trying anymore.

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      @George-K said in More whackadoodle stuff.:

                      Releasing the body-cam video just fuels conspiracy theories.

                      OK, WaPo...

                      They aren’t even really trying anymore.

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                      George K
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                      #41

                      @LuFins-Dad they want to keep it in darkness.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • HoraceH Offline
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                        Horace
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                        #42

                        The messaging where the other side is shamed is the only thing that matters. If they can shame incrementally more and more reasonable people, such as those curious to see body cam footage of a nationally important crime scene, all the better. People don’t fight back against unfair shaming so much as they avoid it at all costs. And thus the irrational but shame-free leftist mob grows larger.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          George K
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                          The coverage.

                          NewsBusters examined the first five days of the Pelosi attack and found that it was 11 times larger than the amount of coverage on the major broadcast network (ABC, CBS, and NBC morning, evening, and Sunday morning shows had given over the same period to the attempted assassination of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

                          MRC analysts found the Kavanaugh story fetched a total of 15 minutes and 1 second of airtime in the first five days since the story broke, which was June 8. The story completely fell out of the news cycle in less than 24 hours with all three evening newscasts (ABC’s World News Tonight, CBS Evening News, and NBC Nightly News) dropping the story on June 9, after covering it that morning (as reported by NewsBusters managing editor Curtis Houck).

                          The Kavanaugh attack garnered 5 minutes and 44 seconds on the first evening. ABC gave it 2 minutes 30 seconds, CBS had 2 minutes 8 seconds, and NBC came in last with 1 minute 6 seconds.

                          The story popped back up thanks to authorities releasing the 911 call on Saturday, June 11 with NBC’s Today giving it a 23-second recap and ABC’s World News Tonight giving it 41 seconds. And as NewsBusters weekend analyst Kevin Tober reported at the time, there was no mention of the attack against Kavanaugh and his family on the Sunday morning roundtable programs.

                          In stunning contrast, analysts found that the broadcast networks gave a whopping 166 minutes and 16 seconds to the Pelosi attack in the first five days. That’s almost three hours of coverage (2:46:16).

                          On the first evening, ABC alone eclipsed the total first-night Kavanaugh coverage with 6 minutes and 40 seconds. NBC gave it 6 minutes and 9 seconds, while CBS gave it 5 minutes and 22 seconds. This brought their first night total to 18 minutes and 11 seconds. The first night of Pelosi coverage surpasses the five-day total for Kavanaugh.

                          The only time a broadcast network didn’t bring up the attack in those five days was when the Saturday evening newscasts for ABC and CBS were preempted for college football.

                          While ABC’s This Week, CBS’s Face the Nation, and NBC’s Meet the Press ignored the Kavanaugh attack on Sunday, June 12, the attack on Pelosi was their number one story NBC devoted almost 31 minutes (30:54). CBS gave it 12 minutes 32 seconds, and ABC came in last with 7 minutes 2 seconds.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            The coverage.

                            NewsBusters examined the first five days of the Pelosi attack and found that it was 11 times larger than the amount of coverage on the major broadcast network (ABC, CBS, and NBC morning, evening, and Sunday morning shows had given over the same period to the attempted assassination of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.

                            MRC analysts found the Kavanaugh story fetched a total of 15 minutes and 1 second of airtime in the first five days since the story broke, which was June 8. The story completely fell out of the news cycle in less than 24 hours with all three evening newscasts (ABC’s World News Tonight, CBS Evening News, and NBC Nightly News) dropping the story on June 9, after covering it that morning (as reported by NewsBusters managing editor Curtis Houck).

                            The Kavanaugh attack garnered 5 minutes and 44 seconds on the first evening. ABC gave it 2 minutes 30 seconds, CBS had 2 minutes 8 seconds, and NBC came in last with 1 minute 6 seconds.

                            The story popped back up thanks to authorities releasing the 911 call on Saturday, June 11 with NBC’s Today giving it a 23-second recap and ABC’s World News Tonight giving it 41 seconds. And as NewsBusters weekend analyst Kevin Tober reported at the time, there was no mention of the attack against Kavanaugh and his family on the Sunday morning roundtable programs.

                            In stunning contrast, analysts found that the broadcast networks gave a whopping 166 minutes and 16 seconds to the Pelosi attack in the first five days. That’s almost three hours of coverage (2:46:16).

                            On the first evening, ABC alone eclipsed the total first-night Kavanaugh coverage with 6 minutes and 40 seconds. NBC gave it 6 minutes and 9 seconds, while CBS gave it 5 minutes and 22 seconds. This brought their first night total to 18 minutes and 11 seconds. The first night of Pelosi coverage surpasses the five-day total for Kavanaugh.

                            The only time a broadcast network didn’t bring up the attack in those five days was when the Saturday evening newscasts for ABC and CBS were preempted for college football.

                            While ABC’s This Week, CBS’s Face the Nation, and NBC’s Meet the Press ignored the Kavanaugh attack on Sunday, June 12, the attack on Pelosi was their number one story NBC devoted almost 31 minutes (30:54). CBS gave it 12 minutes 32 seconds, and ABC came in last with 7 minutes 2 seconds.

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                            #44

                            @George-K

                            The Kavanaugh attack….

                            …. which never actually happened.

                            If Kavanaugh had had his skull crushed with a hammer then maybe the comparison would be valid.

                            In the event the dude never even got onto his property and ended up calling the cops on himself after his sister told him to.

                            Apple, meet orange.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                              LuFins Dad
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                              Okay, let’s compare with Scalise, then.

                              The Brad

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                Okay, let’s compare with Scalise, then.

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                                @LuFins-Dad said in More whackadoodle stuff.:

                                Okay, let’s compare with Scalise, then.

                                image.jpeg

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in More whackadoodle stuff.:

                                  Okay, let’s compare with Scalise, then.

                                  image.jpeg

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #47

                                  @George-K where’s WSJ and NY Post in your graph?

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    @George-K where’s WSJ and NY Post in your graph?

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                                    George K
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                                    @jon-nyc

                                    https://thefederalist.com/2017/06/22/media-covered-gabby-giffords-shooting-almost-three-times-much-steve-scalise-shooting/

                                    LexisNexis is a database that archives a large number of U.S. and world newspapers. I used it to compute two timespans following each shooting: The first three days of news coverage, and then the first full week. I also broke out mentions of each representative’s name for The New York Times, Washington Post, New York Daily News, and USA Today, newspapers with the broadest reach, both geographically (USA Today) and politically (NYT, WaPo). Lexis doesn’t include Wall Street Journal archives and their archives for subscribers don’t go back to the Giffords incident (very annoying, WSJ) or I would have included their results, too. So here’s what that looks like.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Allegations of media bias are a common play in the far right conspiracy theory playbook.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        Allegations of media bias are a common play in the far right conspiracy theory playbook.

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                                        @Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:

                                        Allegations of media bias are a common play in the far right conspiracy theory playbook.

                                        Surely, it’s not so much the bias that’s the problem, but the preponderance of liberal mainstream media. Surely, nobody is delusional enough to complain that Fox is unbiased. The real problem is that there are so many more organizations on the other side.

                                        Right?

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          @George-K

                                          The Kavanaugh attack….

                                          …. which never actually happened.

                                          If Kavanaugh had had his skull crushed with a hammer then maybe the comparison would be valid.

                                          In the event the dude never even got onto his property and ended up calling the cops on himself after his sister told him to.

                                          Apple, meet orange.

                                          George KG Offline
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                                          @jon-nyc said in More whackadoodle stuff.:

                                          @George-K

                                          The Kavanaugh attack….

                                          …. which never actually happened.

                                          OK, now consider the GOP candidate whose house was shot up.

                                          (Biden didn't mention that, you know)

                                          So, apples and oranges bullets and hammers.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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