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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/10/07/biden-issues-new-rules-to-cut-off-microchip-supply-to-china-00060948

    Biden issues new rules to cut off microchip supply to China
    Two new rules from the Commerce Department will strengthen controls on American firms exporting microchips and the equipment used to make them, while upping the pressure on allies to follow suit.
    ...

    https://www.federalregister.gov/public-inspection/2022-21658/additional-export-controls-certain-advanced-computing-and-semiconductor-manufacturing-items

    What say you about this policy move?

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      Don't we want to send them chips loaded with our spy software?

      Maybe we have better stuff now and don't have to do that anymore.

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        Don't we want to send them chips loaded with our spy software?

        Maybe we have better stuff now and don't have to do that anymore.

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        @Copper said in Restrict microchip export to China:

        Don't we want to send them chips loaded with our spy software?

        Too obvious, they will see this coming. Let them buy chips from the black market while behind the scene we load those black market chips with our spy software.

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          Michael Shuman’s op-ed on The Atlantic concerning the Biden administration’s semiconductor export control measures applied to China:

          https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2022/10/biden-export-control-microchips-china/671848/

          … Biden’s new policy reveals that the standard narrative of China’s unstoppable ascent and America’s inexorable decline is based on flawed assumptions. The U.S. continues to hold tremendous economic and technological advantages over China, which, as Biden just signaled, Washington is becoming more willing to use against its Communist competitor. Above all, Biden’s export-control measures are a ruthless expression of American clout—and an intentional reminder that, in many respects, America has it and China does not. The technology analyst Gregory Allen, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, wrote that Biden “is exercising technological and geopolitical power on an incredible scale.”
          …
          These controls mark a distinct shift in Washington’s approach to China. On top of trying to outcompete China, which is the intent of the CHIPS Act recently passed to support the U.S. semiconductor sector, Washington is now purposely and openly working to hold back Chinese economic progress. Allen called the controls a “genuine landmark in U.S.-China relations” that heralds “a new U.S. policy of actively strangling large segments of the Chinese technology industry—strangling with an intent to kill.” Wang also put it bluntly, describing in a report the controls as “a new China containment strategy.”
          …

          The CHIPS Act was previously brought up at: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/18433/chips

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            Remember when we were told that future wars would be economic? We're seeing it.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Michael Shuman’s op-ed on The Atlantic concerning the Biden administration’s semiconductor export control measures applied to China:

              https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2022/10/biden-export-control-microchips-china/671848/

              … Biden’s new policy reveals that the standard narrative of China’s unstoppable ascent and America’s inexorable decline is based on flawed assumptions. The U.S. continues to hold tremendous economic and technological advantages over China, which, as Biden just signaled, Washington is becoming more willing to use against its Communist competitor. Above all, Biden’s export-control measures are a ruthless expression of American clout—and an intentional reminder that, in many respects, America has it and China does not. The technology analyst Gregory Allen, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, wrote that Biden “is exercising technological and geopolitical power on an incredible scale.”
              …
              These controls mark a distinct shift in Washington’s approach to China. On top of trying to outcompete China, which is the intent of the CHIPS Act recently passed to support the U.S. semiconductor sector, Washington is now purposely and openly working to hold back Chinese economic progress. Allen called the controls a “genuine landmark in U.S.-China relations” that heralds “a new U.S. policy of actively strangling large segments of the Chinese technology industry—strangling with an intent to kill.” Wang also put it bluntly, describing in a report the controls as “a new China containment strategy.”
              …

              The CHIPS Act was previously brought up at: https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/18433/chips

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              @Axtremus said in Restrict microchip export to China:

              Biden’s new policy reveals that the standard narrative of China’s unstoppable ascent and America’s inexorable decline is based on flawed assumptions.

              People were saying the same thing about Japan a few decades ago. The more things change, the more they are the same.

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