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    Lois Lerner refused to testify before lawmakers for her role in the targeted persecution of TEA Party organizations via her position as IRS Director of tax exempt non-profits, and was voted in contempt of Congress.

    Eric Holder refused a Congressional subpoena for documents related to the “Fast and Furious” operation that ran guns to Mexican cartel members, ostensibly to track the weapons, one of which was later used to kill US Border Agent Brian Terry.

    Neither received any jail time.

    FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith intentionally and materially altered an email included in an FBI application to renew a FISA warrant against Carter Page. He was found guilty, but spent no time in prison, receiving probation and community service hours. He has since had his law license reinstated.

    James Comey, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, John Brennan, James Clapper, and the entire Mueller Report team, among others, repeatedly perjured themselves in Congressional testimony. Brennan and Clapper now have contributor gigs at cable news channels; Strzok has filed a wrongful termination suit against the FBI. Mueller’s Report was chastised by the IG’s office for its misleading assertions and its lies by omission, with no apologies amongst the fallout.

    And no jail time for any of them.

    Today, former Trump advisor Steve Bannon was given a 4-month jail sentence for Contempt of Congress. Bannon initially denied the legitimacy of the Congressional subpoena, citing executive privilege in his role as presidential advisor, but ultimately did testify.

    I no longer care what any of you think about Donald Trump. Nor do I care what you think of Bannon, who — full disclosure — invited me to New York for a preview of his Sarah Palin documentary over a decade ago. Neither man is the issue. Roger Stone isn’t the issue, either — whatever you think of him either as a person or a persona. The My Pillow guy? Not the issue.

    Instead, the issue is that it is beyond obvious we have a completely politicized system of Justice in which equality before the law is irrelevant, and political prosecutions are becoming the norm under this Administration’s DOJ. AG Merrick Garland recommended a two year sentence for the two NY lawyers who fire bombed a police car — with law enforcement occupants inside — during a BLM protest; meanwhile, the same AG has acquired a 3 1/2 year jail sentence against a 24-year-old UCLA grad for briefly sitting in Mike Pence’s chair on Jan 6. The protestor had committed no violence and destroyed no property.

    The disparity in both charging and sentencing is undeniable: Jan 6 defendants charged with parading do prison time. Antifa members who set fire to police barracks or federal courthouses were released en masse, often with financial assistance promoted by the now Vice President, and no charges ultimately brought.

    More...

    https://jeffgoldstein.substack.com/p/the-age-of-boutique-authoritarianism?utm_source=direct&r=gpupi&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      Lois Lerner refused to testify before lawmakers for her role in the targeted persecution of TEA Party organizations via her position as IRS Director of tax exempt non-profits, and was voted in contempt of Congress.

      Eric Holder refused a Congressional subpoena for documents related to the “Fast and Furious” operation that ran guns to Mexican cartel members, ostensibly to track the weapons, one of which was later used to kill US Border Agent Brian Terry.

      Neither received any jail time.

      FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith intentionally and materially altered an email included in an FBI application to renew a FISA warrant against Carter Page. He was found guilty, but spent no time in prison, receiving probation and community service hours. He has since had his law license reinstated.

      James Comey, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, John Brennan, James Clapper, and the entire Mueller Report team, among others, repeatedly perjured themselves in Congressional testimony. Brennan and Clapper now have contributor gigs at cable news channels; Strzok has filed a wrongful termination suit against the FBI. Mueller’s Report was chastised by the IG’s office for its misleading assertions and its lies by omission, with no apologies amongst the fallout.

      And no jail time for any of them.

      Today, former Trump advisor Steve Bannon was given a 4-month jail sentence for Contempt of Congress. Bannon initially denied the legitimacy of the Congressional subpoena, citing executive privilege in his role as presidential advisor, but ultimately did testify.

      I no longer care what any of you think about Donald Trump. Nor do I care what you think of Bannon, who — full disclosure — invited me to New York for a preview of his Sarah Palin documentary over a decade ago. Neither man is the issue. Roger Stone isn’t the issue, either — whatever you think of him either as a person or a persona. The My Pillow guy? Not the issue.

      Instead, the issue is that it is beyond obvious we have a completely politicized system of Justice in which equality before the law is irrelevant, and political prosecutions are becoming the norm under this Administration’s DOJ. AG Merrick Garland recommended a two year sentence for the two NY lawyers who fire bombed a police car — with law enforcement occupants inside — during a BLM protest; meanwhile, the same AG has acquired a 3 1/2 year jail sentence against a 24-year-old UCLA grad for briefly sitting in Mike Pence’s chair on Jan 6. The protestor had committed no violence and destroyed no property.

      The disparity in both charging and sentencing is undeniable: Jan 6 defendants charged with parading do prison time. Antifa members who set fire to police barracks or federal courthouses were released en masse, often with financial assistance promoted by the now Vice President, and no charges ultimately brought.

      More...

      https://jeffgoldstein.substack.com/p/the-age-of-boutique-authoritarianism?utm_source=direct&r=gpupi&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

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      @Jolly said in Boutique:

      AG Merrick Garland recommended a two year sentence for the two NY lawyers who fire bombed a police car — with law enforcement occupants inside — during a BLM protest

      https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-biden-memphis-tennessee-c7a44ec3896476c84a8ca8c526725550

      Matthew Bledsoe, 38, of Olive Branch, Mississippi, was found guilty in July of one felony — obstruction of an official proceeding — and four misdemeanors related to the Capitol breach, the Department of Justice said in a statement.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Sorry, but a guy obstructing official proceedings is a clear and present dange to democracy and the American Chinese way of life.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          @Jolly said in Boutique:

          AG Merrick Garland recommended a two year sentence for the two NY lawyers who fire bombed a police car — with law enforcement occupants inside — during a BLM protest

          https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-biden-memphis-tennessee-c7a44ec3896476c84a8ca8c526725550

          Matthew Bledsoe, 38, of Olive Branch, Mississippi, was found guilty in July of one felony — obstruction of an official proceeding — and four misdemeanors related to the Capitol breach, the Department of Justice said in a statement.

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          @George-K said in Boutique:

          AG Merrick Garland recommended a two year sentence for the two NY lawyers who fire bombed a police car — with law enforcement occupants inside — during a BLM protest

          Pretty sure that's wrong but I'm too lazy to google it

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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            @George-K said in Boutique:

            AG Merrick Garland recommended a two year sentence for the two NY lawyers who fire bombed a police car — with law enforcement occupants inside — during a BLM protest

            Pretty sure that's wrong but I'm too lazy to google it

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            @jon-nyc said in Boutique:

            Pretty sure that's wrong but I'm too lazy to google it

            https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york-lawyers-plead-guilty-to-conspiracy-in-molotov-cocktail-case-11654203046

            Ms. Rahman and Mr. Mattis pleaded guilty last year to one count of possessing and making an explosive device, which carries a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison.

            Under the new agreement, Ms. Rahman and Mr. Mattis withdrew the earlier plea and instead pleaded guilty to conspiring to assemble the Molotov cocktail and damage the New York Police Department patrol car.

            The conspiracy charge carries a maximum sentence of five years, though prosecutors agreed to recommend a sentence of 18 to 24 months imprisonment. The agreement also requires them to pay more than $30,000 restitution to the city of New York.

            The Justice Department and U.S. probation officials each indicated that federal-sentencing guidelines could have led to an excessive sentence, particularly if the lawyers’ conduct was considered an act of terrorism, according to a letter last month from prosecutors to the judge.

            From what I can find, they're scheduled to be sentenced later this month. Let's see if the judge agrees with the prosecution's recommendations.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Disbarred

              New York disbarred the two left-wing lawyers who pleaded guilty to firebombing a police cruiser during the George Floyd riots in May 2020.

              New York's Appellate Division on Tuesday ruled that Colinford Mattis and Urooj Rahman's guilty pleas qualified them for the state's automatic disbarment provision, Reuters reported. The court order dates their disbarment back to June, when the pair pleaded guilty to throwing a Molotov cocktail at an NYPD car. Both lawyers told U.S. District Judge Brian Cogan at the time that they understood their guilty plea would cost them their licenses.

              Rahman's attorneys in September asked for a commutation of her sentence, saying she was inebriated the night of the attack and working through "unprocessed trauma" stemming from "abusive partnership relationships" and "early trauma" from being taunted as a Muslim after 9/11. Rahman and Mattis in June negotiated their potential 10-year sentences down to a maximum of 5 years.

              The pair claim the Trump Justice Department brought federal charges to make an example out of them, and Rahman's attorneys say their client's "commitment to social justice" ought to earn her a reduced sentence.

              But prosecutors maintain that Rahman and Mattis "abdicated their responsibilities as attorneys" and cite text messages showing the duo's attack was premeditated.

              "Bring it to their neck," Mattis texted Rahman before sharing the location of NYPD headquarters. "Molotovs rollin'," Rahman responded. "I hope they burn everything down. Need to burn all police stations down and probably the courts too."

              Rahman is set to be sentenced on Friday. Mattis's hearing is scheduled for Dec. 16.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                Disbarred

                New York disbarred the two left-wing lawyers who pleaded guilty to firebombing a police cruiser during the George Floyd riots in May 2020.

                New York's Appellate Division on Tuesday ruled that Colinford Mattis and Urooj Rahman's guilty pleas qualified them for the state's automatic disbarment provision, Reuters reported. The court order dates their disbarment back to June, when the pair pleaded guilty to throwing a Molotov cocktail at an NYPD car. Both lawyers told U.S. District Judge Brian Cogan at the time that they understood their guilty plea would cost them their licenses.

                Rahman's attorneys in September asked for a commutation of her sentence, saying she was inebriated the night of the attack and working through "unprocessed trauma" stemming from "abusive partnership relationships" and "early trauma" from being taunted as a Muslim after 9/11. Rahman and Mattis in June negotiated their potential 10-year sentences down to a maximum of 5 years.

                The pair claim the Trump Justice Department brought federal charges to make an example out of them, and Rahman's attorneys say their client's "commitment to social justice" ought to earn her a reduced sentence.

                But prosecutors maintain that Rahman and Mattis "abdicated their responsibilities as attorneys" and cite text messages showing the duo's attack was premeditated.

                "Bring it to their neck," Mattis texted Rahman before sharing the location of NYPD headquarters. "Molotovs rollin'," Rahman responded. "I hope they burn everything down. Need to burn all police stations down and probably the courts too."

                Rahman is set to be sentenced on Friday. Mattis's hearing is scheduled for Dec. 16.

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                @George-K

                I was disagreeing with the specific part I put in bold type. I don’t believe there was anyone in the car.

                That would make a huge difference- destroying property vs attempted murder of a police officer.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  @George-K

                  I was disagreeing with the specific part I put in bold type. I don’t believe there was anyone in the car.

                  That would make a huge difference- destroying property vs attempted murder of a police officer.

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                  @jon-nyc fair 'nuff.

                  Now what property did Matthew Bledsoe destroy to earn a 4 year prison term?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    What property did Charles Manson destroy to get life in prison?

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      I'd say writing on victim's walls with their own blood may have had a small part...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        What property did Charles Manson destroy to get life in prison?

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                        @jon-nyc said in Boutique:

                        What property did Charles Manson destroy to get life in prison?

                        Manson was convicted of orchestrating a murder.

                        Bledsoe was convicted "of one felony — obstruction of an official proceeding — and four misdemeanors related to the Capitol breach, the Department of Justice said in a statement."

                        He wasn't convicted of any property damage.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          I’m making the obvious point that not everyone who goes to jail goes for property destruction.

                          I think everyone who breeched the capital should get a minimum of 18 months. I’m totally fine with this guy getting 4 years.

                          Those who destroyed things should serve a minimum of 10 years.

                          A Magat who assaulted two police officers is going to be sentenced next month. That should be fun.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            First, you're making a crappy point.

                            Second, punishment should fit the crime.

                            Third, justice should be equally enforced or there really is no justice.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              First, you're making a crappy point.

                              Second, punishment should fit the crime.

                              Third, justice should be equally enforced or there really is no justice.

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                              @Jolly said in Boutique:

                              First, you're making a crappy point.

                              Second, punishment should fit the crime.

                              Third, justice should be equally enforced or there really is no justice.

                              1). George asked me a nonsensical question so I replied in a similar vein.

                              2). He’s lucky he didn’t get shot on sight.

                              3). I’d be totally fine if the lot of them did four years.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                                @Jolly said in Boutique:

                                First, you're making a crappy point.

                                Second, punishment should fit the crime.

                                Third, justice should be equally enforced or there really is no justice.

                                1). George asked me a nonsensical question so I replied in a similar vein.

                                2). He’s lucky he didn’t get shot on sight.

                                3). I’d be totally fine if the lot of them did four years.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Boutique:

                                1). George asked me a nonsensical question so I replied in a similar vein.

                                You made the comment that firebombing a police car is not as serious as attempted murder.

                                That's right.

                                I made the point that Bledsoe didn't destroy any property and got a harsher sentence. Read his conviction again, and explain how that equates with throwing a Molotov cocktail into a police car.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  How about those folks setting fire to Federal buildings?

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Minimum 4 years easy. 15 if someone was inside.

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Boutique:

                                      1). George asked me a nonsensical question so I replied in a similar vein.

                                      You made the comment that firebombing a police car is not as serious as attempted murder.

                                      That's right.

                                      I made the point that Bledsoe didn't destroy any property and got a harsher sentence. Read his conviction again, and explain how that equates with throwing a Molotov cocktail into a police car.

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                                      @George-K

                                      It’s a game I don’t play. (Usually it’s the left doing it, where they cherry pick a lighter sentence received by a white person).

                                      Simply put, a previous injustice can’t be used to justify a current one.

                                      The guy got four years, and I’m totally fine with it.

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        Bledsoe, 38, was convicted of obstruction of an official proceeding, entering and remaining in a restricted building, disorderly conduct in a restricted building and in a Capitol building, and demonstrating in a Capitol building.

                                        For those that are counting, that's one felony and four misdemeanors. Most of the evidence used against him came from his social media accounts. Prominent in his sentencing was a text to his wife, telling her that Federal officials would be executed. Not that he was executing them, but that he believed that would happen.

                                        It's an egregious statement, but a private one. It certainly wasn't enough to even convict him on threatening a Federal official.

                                        So maybe in our brave new world, we need thought police, to make sure our texts and our thoughts are pure, since they matter more than our actions.

                                        I'm not fine with putting one guy in prison for four years while others receive much lighter sentences (or no sentence at all) for more serious crimes. That's not justice, that's petty vengeance. The problem with vengeance is that the worm usually turns.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          Bledsoe, 38, was convicted of obstruction of an official proceeding, entering and remaining in a restricted building, disorderly conduct in a restricted building and in a Capitol building, and demonstrating in a Capitol building.

                                          For those that are counting, that's one felony and four misdemeanors. Most of the evidence used against him came from his social media accounts. Prominent in his sentencing was a text to his wife, telling her that Federal officials would be executed. Not that he was executing them, but that he believed that would happen.

                                          It's an egregious statement, but a private one. It certainly wasn't enough to even convict him on threatening a Federal official.

                                          So maybe in our brave new world, we need thought police, to make sure our texts and our thoughts are pure, since they matter more than our actions.

                                          I'm not fine with putting one guy in prison for four years while others receive much lighter sentences (or no sentence at all) for more serious crimes. That's not justice, that's petty vengeance. The problem with vengeance is that the worm usually turns.

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                                          Play stupid games…

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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