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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    Hadn't really thought of this, but it's right.

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    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
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      #2

      There’s a certain irony in all that.

      Hadn’t ever thought about either until you posted this.

      Elbows up!

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        #3

        I had only thought about this with the word apology.

        There’s another similar, which has opposing meanings as a verb or an adjective/noun: moot

        To moot an idea is to bring it into consideration.

        If a topic is made moot, it is made irrelevant, taken out of consideration.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • MikM Offline
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          #4

          English is a difficult language.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Aqua Letifer
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            #5

            Did you screen these for accuracy? Don't overlook some of the others.

            Love contronyms.

            Please love yourself.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              Did you screen these for accuracy? Don't overlook some of the others.

              Love contronyms.

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              Renauda
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              #6

              @Aqua-Letifer 😁

              Elbows up!

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                Like Window’s “Start” button, you click it to shutdown the computer.

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  Like Window’s “Start” button, you click it to shutdown the computer.

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                  @Axtremus said in Contronyms:

                  Like Window’s “Start” button, you click it to shutdown the computer.

                  Swing and a miss.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    I had only thought about this with the word apology.

                    There’s another similar, which has opposing meanings as a verb or an adjective/noun: moot

                    To moot an idea is to bring it into consideration.

                    If a topic is made moot, it is made irrelevant, taken out of consideration.

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                    @jon-nyc said in Contronyms:

                    To moot an idea is to bring it into consideration.

                    Really? I haven't heard of that before.

                    I can think of a phrase that qualifies: I'm sure. Much of the time, when somebody says I'm sure, they're saying they're not sure. As in, "I'm sure it'll be fine," which is saying you're in fact not sure.

                    Often when they really mean they're sure, they'll say I'm sure of it.

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      The proctor at my SAT told us that it was his job to overlook all of the students and make sure that no cheating occurred…

                      The Brad

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                      • Catseye3C Catseye3

                        @jon-nyc said in Contronyms:

                        To moot an idea is to bring it into consideration.

                        Really? I haven't heard of that before.

                        I can think of a phrase that qualifies: I'm sure. Much of the time, when somebody says I'm sure, they're saying they're not sure. As in, "I'm sure it'll be fine," which is saying you're in fact not sure.

                        Often when they really mean they're sure, they'll say I'm sure of it.

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by George K
                        #11

                        Origin of the word moot and its definitions go back to Anglo-Saxon England:

                        https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803124243390

                        Elbows up!

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                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                          Origin of the word moot and its definitions go back to Anglo-Saxon England:

                          https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803124243390

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                          @Renauda

                          In Dennis Taylor's "We Are Bob" series of sci-fi books, the various iterations of "Bob" hold virtual meetings to discuss plans, problems, etc.

                          They are called "moots."

                          “It depends on the power of the computer that’s hosting it, Henry. I’ve got a huge system here in Epsilon Eridani that’s specifically designed for hosting. I’ve hosted baseball games, and Bob-moots with dozens of Bobs at a time.” I glanced at each of them in turn. “You guys both have some catching up to do. Linus, I’ve started building a latest-generation vessel for each of you. Henry, it’s up to you what you want to do. I understand you have some sensitivities that you’re dealing with. There’s no hurry. We have, literally, all the time in the universe.”

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • Catseye3C Catseye3

                            @jon-nyc said in Contronyms:

                            To moot an idea is to bring it into consideration.

                            Really? I haven't heard of that before.

                            I can think of a phrase that qualifies: I'm sure. Much of the time, when somebody says I'm sure, they're saying they're not sure. As in, "I'm sure it'll be fine," which is saying you're in fact not sure.

                            Often when they really mean they're sure, they'll say I'm sure of it.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by
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                            @Catseye3 it’s a British usage. It shows up in the magazine The Economist all the time.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                            • RenaudaR Renauda

                              Origin of the word moot and its definitions go back to Anglo-Saxon England:

                              https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803124243390

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                              @Renauda said in Contronyms:

                              Origin of the word moot and its definitions go back to Anglo-Saxon England:

                              https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803124243390

                              I suppose Tolkien was aware of that usage when he coined “entmoot”.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • MikM Mik

                                English is a difficult language.

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                                @Mik said in Contronyms:

                                English is a difficult language.

                                ☝ This!!

                                What would be an sentence example of #5 - dust: to add fine particles?

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                                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                  @Mik said in Contronyms:

                                  English is a difficult language.

                                  ☝ This!!

                                  What would be an sentence example of #5 - dust: to add fine particles?

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                                  LuFins Dad
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                                  @taiwan_girl said in Contronyms:

                                  @Mik said in Contronyms:

                                  English is a difficult language.

                                  ☝ This!!

                                  What would be an sentence example of #5 - dust: to add fine particles?

                                  TG, please dust the donuts with powdered sugar.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                    @Mik said in Contronyms:

                                    English is a difficult language.

                                    ☝ This!!

                                    What would be an sentence example of #5 - dust: to add fine particles?

                                    RenaudaR Offline
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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                    #17

                                    @taiwan_girl

                                    Or where I live, in winter people will say “we had a dusting of snow over night”.

                                    Elbows up!

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