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Interesting application of the 2nd Amendment

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  • MikM Offline
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    Is the court pushing too far? The 1791 analogue thing is interesting. You be the judge.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/following-supreme-court-s-lead-judge-finds-right-to-remove-serial-numbers-from-guns/ar-AA12W0Gm?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=47831bd6a745456f9a5125444e9d4c88

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • taiwan_girlT Online
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      Yup, I think when you take things too literal, there are problems.

      (NOTE: even though I play a constitution expert on TV, I am not one in real life)

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        According to the Judge, serial numbers were not stamped on guns when the Constitution was concocted by the Founding Fathers. Therefore, it cannot be a crime to remove serial numbers.

        By the same logic, the Second Amendment should apply only to arms that were in use when the Constitution was ratified, i.e. single shot black powder muzzle loaders. Therefore a Brown Bess is constitutionally okay but not any modern breech loading firearm that is popular among shooters today.

        Elbows up!

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          I think there will be problems saying that something is only protected by the Constitution if it existed during the 18th century.

          This is more like protecting your right to rip off a Mattress Tag.

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            #5

            Pretty sure in the 1790s anyone could walk into the Capitol packing heat. Or the president’s mansion for that matter.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Pretty sure in the 1790s anyone could walk into the Capitol packing heat. Or the president’s mansion for that matter.

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              @jon-nyc

              But were they packing tagless straw or feather mattresses?

              Elbows up!

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              • RenaudaR Renauda

                According to the Judge, serial numbers were not stamped on guns when the Constitution was concocted by the Founding Fathers. Therefore, it cannot be a crime to remove serial numbers.

                By the same logic, the Second Amendment should apply only to arms that were in use when the Constitution was ratified, i.e. single shot black powder muzzle loaders. Therefore a Brown Bess is constitutionally okay but not any modern breech loading firearm that is popular among shooters today.

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                @Renauda said in Interesting application of the 2nd Amendment:

                According to the Judge, serial numbers were not stamped on guns when the Constitution was concocted by the Founding Fathers. Therefore, it cannot be a crime to remove serial numbers.

                By the same logic, the Second Amendment should apply only to arms that were in use when the Constitution was ratified, i.e. single shot black powder muzzle loaders. Therefore a Brown Bess is constitutionally okay but not any modern breech loading firearm that is popular among shooters today.

                But...Before 1968, firearms made in the U.S. or imported into the U.S. were not required to have serial numbers.

                Just a small factoid.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @Renauda said in Interesting application of the 2nd Amendment:

                  According to the Judge, serial numbers were not stamped on guns when the Constitution was concocted by the Founding Fathers. Therefore, it cannot be a crime to remove serial numbers.

                  By the same logic, the Second Amendment should apply only to arms that were in use when the Constitution was ratified, i.e. single shot black powder muzzle loaders. Therefore a Brown Bess is constitutionally okay but not any modern breech loading firearm that is popular among shooters today.

                  But...Before 1968, firearms made in the U.S. or imported into the U.S. were not required to have serial numbers.

                  Just a small factoid.

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                  @Jolly

                  Thanks for sharing.

                  Not that I care, but what about mattress tags?

                  Elbows up!

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