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    Jolly
    wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 12:12 last edited by
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    An interesting Prager column...

    https://pjmedia.com/columns/dennis-prager/2020/06/09/the-four-horsemen-of-americas-apocalypse-n508955

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Mik
      wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 12:50 last edited by
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      Great points.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Catseye3
        wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 13:21 last edited by Catseye3 6 Sept 2020, 13:22
        #3

        👍 On the first paragraph of No. 1. The rest is a wandering, half-assed mishmash. Ain't nobody got time for that.

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          Jolly
          wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 13:24 last edited by
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          Don't see the similarities to Germany of the early 1930's?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • J Jolly
            9 Jun 2020, 13:24

            Don't see the similarities to Germany of the early 1930's?

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            Klaus
            wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 13:27 last edited by
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            @Jolly said in The Four Horsemen:

            Don't see the similarities to Germany of the early 1930's?

            Pick any country and any time and you are going to see similarities. The things mentioned in the article are universal constants of human life.

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              9 Jun 2020, 13:24

              Don't see the similarities to Germany of the early 1930's?

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              Catseye3
              wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 13:30 last edited by
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              @Jolly Don't care about the similarities to Germany of the early 1930's.

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              • C Catseye3
                9 Jun 2020, 13:21

                👍 On the first paragraph of No. 1. The rest is a wandering, half-assed mishmash. Ain't nobody got time for that.

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                taiwan_girl
                wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 17:38 last edited by
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                @Catseye3 I agree with Catseye3. There is a lot of truth in the article, but when it is written so one sided, it makes me have less trust in the message.

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                  Larry
                  wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 17:52 last edited by
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                  Jesus H. Christ.. you 3 beat all ive ever seen.

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                  • L Larry
                    9 Jun 2020, 17:52

                    Jesus H. Christ.. you 3 beat all ive ever seen.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 17:58 last edited by
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                    @Larry said in The Four Horsemen:

                    Jesus H. Christ.. you 3 beat all ive ever seen.

                    There are those who will look, but shall not see.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Catseye3
                      wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 18:22 last edited by Catseye3 6 Sept 2020, 18:25
                      #10

                      Well, excuse me very much for not dropping everything to wig out over some development of 90 years ago, from another country yet, and not even unique yet. What with everything going on in my own goddamn day, I've been a little distracted.

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 18:57 last edited by
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                        @Jolly @Larry

                        A couple of things from the article

                        1. Victimization - as I said, I agree with Cats that this is a problem.

                        2. Demonization - the article starts out by saying: "All — again, (SET ITAL)all(END ITAL) — whites are declared racist." ??????????

                        Do some people believe this? Yes. Are some people racist against Asians? Yes.

                        The author is making a blanket statement on the basis of a small number.

                        1. Cause to believe in - I agree with this quote from the article - "But people need something to believe in." Absolutely 100% I agree with this. But to say that because less people are believing in Christianity, the world is falling apart. Somebody who tries to tell me that if I am not a Christian, then I am not a good person is just full of hooey! Religion is not always the answer. I am not sure, but I think that probably more wars have been fought in the name of religion than anything else.

                        2. Lies - it is a typical response from either the left or right, that is something is said that you do not agree with, it is automatically said to be a lie. That is ridiculous on both sides.

                        Anyway, not sure if any of the above makes sense.

                        (Just want to add that while I do not agree with everybody's sayings here on this forum, I am glad that there are different viewpoints. I always learn something and sometimes change my mind! 😊 )

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                          9 Jun 2020, 18:22

                          Well, excuse me very much for not dropping everything to wig out over some development of 90 years ago, from another country yet, and not even unique yet. What with everything going on in my own goddamn day, I've been a little distracted.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 9 Jun 2020, 19:10 last edited by
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                          @Catseye3 said in The Four Horsemen:

                          Well, excuse me very much for not dropping everything to wig out over some development of 90 years ago, from another country yet, and not even unique yet. What with everything going on in my own goddamn day, I've been a little distracted.

                          All great countries follow the same basic road to their demise.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • J Jolly
                            9 Jun 2020, 19:10

                            @Catseye3 said in The Four Horsemen:

                            Well, excuse me very much for not dropping everything to wig out over some development of 90 years ago, from another country yet, and not even unique yet. What with everything going on in my own goddamn day, I've been a little distracted.

                            All great countries follow the same basic road to their demise.

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                            Axtremus
                            wrote on 10 Jun 2020, 02:23 last edited by
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                            @Jolly said in The Four Horsemen:

                            All great countries follow the same basic road to their demise.

                            So if the USA do not follow this basic road to demise, then the USA is not a great country?

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                            • A Axtremus
                              10 Jun 2020, 02:23

                              @Jolly said in The Four Horsemen:

                              All great countries follow the same basic road to their demise.

                              So if the USA do not follow this basic road to demise, then the USA is not a great country?

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 10 Jun 2020, 02:53 last edited by
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                              @Axtremus said in The Four Horsemen:

                              @Jolly said in The Four Horsemen:

                              All great countries follow the same basic road to their demise.

                              So if the USA do not follow this basic road to demise, then the USA is not a great country?

                              They're supposedly collectible...

                              https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-decline-and-fall-of-the-roman-empire-in-three-volumes/9588785/vintage/

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • J Jolly
                                9 Jun 2020, 19:10

                                @Catseye3 said in The Four Horsemen:

                                Well, excuse me very much for not dropping everything to wig out over some development of 90 years ago, from another country yet, and not even unique yet. What with everything going on in my own goddamn day, I've been a little distracted.

                                All great countries follow the same basic road to their demise.

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 10 Jun 2020, 12:42 last edited by Doctor Phibes 6 Oct 2020, 12:43
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                                @Jolly said in The Four Horsemen:

                                @Catseye3 said in The Four Horsemen:

                                Well, excuse me very much for not dropping everything to wig out over some development of 90 years ago, from another country yet, and not even unique yet. What with everything going on in my own goddamn day, I've been a little distracted.

                                All great countries follow the same basic road to their demise.

                                I'm not convinced that Rome or Britain followed the basic road described by Prager. Obviously, comparing the US to the British Empire wouldn't have the same clickbaitiness as mentioning the Nazis, but he wouldn't have self-Godwinned either.

                                I was only joking

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                                • D Doctor Phibes
                                  10 Jun 2020, 12:42

                                  @Jolly said in The Four Horsemen:

                                  @Catseye3 said in The Four Horsemen:

                                  Well, excuse me very much for not dropping everything to wig out over some development of 90 years ago, from another country yet, and not even unique yet. What with everything going on in my own goddamn day, I've been a little distracted.

                                  All great countries follow the same basic road to their demise.

                                  I'm not convinced that Rome or Britain followed the basic road described by Prager. Obviously, comparing the US to the British Empire wouldn't have the same clickbaitiness as mentioning the Nazis, but he wouldn't have self-Godwinned either.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 10 Jun 2020, 16:19 last edited by
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                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in The Four Horsemen:

                                  @Jolly said in The Four Horsemen:

                                  @Catseye3 said in The Four Horsemen:

                                  Well, excuse me very much for not dropping everything to wig out over some development of 90 years ago, from another country yet, and not even unique yet. What with everything going on in my own goddamn day, I've been a little distracted.

                                  All great countries follow the same basic road to their demise.

                                  I'm not convinced that Rome or Britain followed the basic road described by Prager. Obviously, comparing the US to the British Empire wouldn't have the same clickbaitiness as mentioning the Nazis, but he wouldn't have self-Godwinned either.

                                  It's the same path, only with slightly different road signs.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Larry
                                    wrote on 10 Jun 2020, 16:26 last edited by
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                                    Just before the fall of Rome the Roman government had taken to driving a wagon through the city filled with money, and throwing money òut of the wagon to the citizens.

                                    We now call it a stimulus.

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