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TSA Firearm recoveries

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-firearms-are-caught-by-tsa/

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-firearms-are-caught-by-tsa/

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      @jon-nyc I wonder what the prosecution and conviction rates are?

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        It’s a good question. 17 recoveries a day would be a lot of prosecutor time.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          It’s a good question. 17 recoveries a day would be a lot of prosecutor time.

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          @jon-nyc said in TSA Firearm recoveries:

          It’s a good question. 17 recoveries a day would be a lot of prosecutor time.

          Who would go through TSA with a weapon?

          It seems this would be 1) felony; and 2) strict liability.

          I also wonder what the typical sentence is, and how uniformly it’s applied.

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            Some people that carry all the time could forget, I suppose.

            It does seem like an odd thing to have ‘just happen’

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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              I remember taking a flight maybe 2 or 3 weeks after they resumed post 9/11. There was a guy who had a gun in his carry-on luggage - quite easy to see on xray. The TSA called for the armed guy with the M16 to escort him away. I have rarely seen a paler complexion on the guy whose luggage was being removed. I turned to my spouse and said, "notice the nug on the x-ray" - concerned not to even say the word "gun." I figured the guy would spend the next 10-12 hours explaining things.

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                Wow. That’s a special kind of stupid.

                Was it at ORD?

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  Wow. That’s a special kind of stupid.

                  Was it at ORD?

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                  @jon-nyc said in TSA Firearm recoveries:

                  Wow. That’s a special kind of stupid.

                  Was it at ORD?

                  Yup, ORD - I couldn't believe it. Wherever he planned to be, it wasn't going to happen.

                  Another goofy story from that time is that I have a brother-in-law who was a US Marshall. A TSA agent got all excited when he discovered a nail clipper in his carry-on luggage. The BIL then pointed out the fact that he was carrying a 9 mm sidearm and asked "why is it that I can carry this - and not a nail clipper?" They waved him through - with the clipper.

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                    @jon-nyc said in TSA Firearm recoveries:

                    Wow. That’s a special kind of stupid.

                    Was it at ORD?

                    Yup, ORD - I couldn't believe it. Wherever he planned to be, it wasn't going to happen.

                    Another goofy story from that time is that I have a brother-in-law who was a US Marshall. A TSA agent got all excited when he discovered a nail clipper in his carry-on luggage. The BIL then pointed out the fact that he was carrying a 9 mm sidearm and asked "why is it that I can carry this - and not a nail clipper?" They waved him through - with the clipper.

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                    @kluurs lol

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      Guys (and gals) forget.

                      When you pack one all of time, it's no more than a toothbrush.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        I can "kind of" understand forgetting it.

                        I travel enough that I have a routine and check/double check. (And of course, i have still forgotten things).

                        Another ORD story (but not so exciting). I went through security and was sitting in the international lounge and realized that my carry bag felt light. Yep, left my computer back at security. Ran all the way back and as I approached, the security guy said, "looks like you forgot something here!!". Found the computer, - made me turn it on and log in to prove it was mine. LOL

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                          I could (sorta) imagine forgetting in October of 2022, but not October of 2001.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            You don't routinely carry a gun

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              I routinely carry a lot of things, and as I prepare for a flight I think through in advance what I can bring on board, what I must check, and what I can’t check (eg lithium batteries). The principle is the same, it’s just that the stakes are higher with a gun.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                                They could eliminate all the violations by changing the law.

                                It seems to be working for shoplifting in LA.

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