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A funny thing happened on the way to the midterms

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    I’ve heard it said that the Red Tsunami is turning into the red trickle. But two months is still a long time.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • CopperC Offline
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      We all know that cnn will claim that the republicans are behind in every possible poll.

      So will all their pals.

      They will also tell us that republicans are all hated and they will get no votes, unless it is rigged.

      Serious, reliable polls disappeared decades ago.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        It's the economy, stupid.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • MikM Mik

          It's rather odd, but the Dems have picked up some momentum.

          It would be nice if the GOP would put forth some coherent plan for what they want to do. Tim Ryan is crushing Vance in Ohio with ads, and Vance is nowhere to be seen. Nver mind that Ryan is a Trojan horse, he still has the momentum.

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/a-funny-thing-happened-on-the-way-to-the-midterms/ar-AA11mmQ7?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=af765dee6c1649ca927812e20283f8d7

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          @Mik said in A funny thing happened on the way to the midterms:

          It would be nice if the GOP would put forth some coherent plan for what they want to do.

          The GOP couldn't even agree on a platform at their last national convention. You may have a few GOP governors who governs OK at the state level, but at the national level the GOP simply does now how to govern.

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            Trump isn’t helping. He is probably costing Republicans winnable seats by centering primary races on him and his stop the steal nonsense, rather than stuff voters care about.

            AZ is an example, even potentially OH

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Trump isn’t helping. He is probably costing Republicans winnable seats by centering primary races on him and his stop the steal nonsense, rather than stuff voters care about.

              AZ is an example, even potentially OH

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              @jon-nyc said in A funny thing happened on the way to the midterms:

              Trump isn’t helping.

              What I don't understand is why his supporters can't see this. There are non-Trumpian conservatives saying it, but his fanbase just don't seem able to accept it.

              He's been a liability since 1/8/21.

              Expecting him to bow out gracefully isn't really an option, obviously. Somebody needs to grow a pair.

              I was only joking

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                Who knows if this generalizes, but it was interesting enough to repost.

                From a piece about Dobbs’ effect on women voters.

                One of the first big signs that things had changed came from Kansas. After voters there defeated a constitutional amendment that would have removed abortion protections in the state in a landslide, I sought to understand how activists could have accomplished such an astounding upset. While it takes several weeks for state election officials to produce full reports on who voted in any given election, there was an immediate clue. I looked at new voter registrants in the state since the June 24 Dobbs decision. As shocking as the election result was to me, what I found was more striking than any single election statistic I can recall discovering throughout my career. Sixty-nine percent of those new registrants were women. In the six months before Dobbs, women outnumbered men by a three-point margin among new voter registrations. After Dobbs, that gender gap skyrocketed to 40 points. Women were engaged politically in a way that lacked any known precedent.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  It's the economy, stupid.

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                  @Jolly said in A funny thing happened on the way to the midterms:

                  It's the economy, stupid.

                  Americans are finally feeling better about the economy :
                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/09/10/economy-inflation-gas-prices/

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                    That's gas prices.

                    I wonder how good they would feel about it, if we suddenly had to engage in a military action of any consequence, what with the strategic reserve being depleted by The Resident and our stockpiles of many weapons being quite low (without hope of immediate replenishment)?

                    The Resident's Administration is currently like a duck. They try to appear peaceful and calm on top of the recession water, while paddling furiously underneath that water, knowing a recession is already here or is coming. They are doing whatever they can to try to get through the midterms without any bad economic news upsetting the applecart.

                    But I would advise you to disconnect from the virtual reality chair, crawl out of the Cheeto Bunker and go talk to real people. Middle-class people with mortgages, kids in college and some that are looking at new cars.

                    All is not well.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      That's gas prices.

                      I wonder how good they would feel about it, if we suddenly had to engage in a military action of any consequence, what with the strategic reserve being depleted by The Resident and our stockpiles of many weapons being quite low (without hope of immediate replenishment)?

                      The Resident's Administration is currently like a duck. They try to appear peaceful and calm on top of the recession water, while paddling furiously underneath that water, knowing a recession is already here or is coming. They are doing whatever they can to try to get through the midterms without any bad economic news upsetting the applecart.

                      But I would advise you to disconnect from the virtual reality chair, crawl out of the Cheeto Bunker and go talk to real people. Middle-class people with mortgages, kids in college and some that are looking at new cars.

                      All is not well.

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                      @Jolly said in A funny thing happened on the way to the midterms:

                      They are doing whatever they can to try to get through the midterms without any bad economic news upsetting the applecart.

                      Yup. And then hope that in the next two years, things will (continue to) improve.

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                        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/12/republicans-soften-staunch-anti-abortion-stance

                        More reporting on the GOP candidates backing off from extreme anti-abortion policies ahead of the midterm election.

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                          They can do what they wish, before the election.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            As wise people on here have said, it is easy to campaign and tough to govern.

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                              Interesting… Momentum has shifted sharply in Nevada and GA, and while Fetterman is leading in PA still, RCP is projecting PA going R now.

                              https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2022/senate/elections-map-rcp-projection.html

                              The polls since the Student Loan issue came to the front have shifted sharply. I know the public opinion polls state that the majority support the plan, but that has not been my experience… Even a lot of Democrats I know are bitching about it…

                              The Brad

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