Government Efficiency
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@Jolly said in Government Efficiency:
@Axtremus said in Government Efficiency:
@Jolly, you can choose healthcare that is not government run, right? No one is forcing you or your family to use government run healthcare, right?
You can choose to breathe water, right? No one is forcing you or your family to breathe air, right?
The point is that private insurance is much, much more expensive than government. People who complain about how awful the government system is doing need to think about what state they'd be in without it.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Government Efficiency:
@Jolly said in Government Efficiency:
@Axtremus said in Government Efficiency:
@Jolly, you can choose healthcare that is not government run, right? No one is forcing you or your family to use government run healthcare, right?
You can choose to breathe water, right? No one is forcing you or your family to breathe air, right?
The point is that private insurance is much, much more expensive than government. People who complain about how awful the government system is doing need to think about what state they'd be in without it.
BTW, I also have private insurance.
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@Axtremus said in Government Efficiency:
@Jolly, you can choose healthcare that is not government run, right? No one is forcing you or your family to use government run healthcare, right?
You can choose to breathe water, right? No one is forcing you or your family to breathe air, right?
@Jolly said in Government Efficiency:
@Axtremus said in Government Efficiency:
@Jolly, you can choose healthcare that is not government run, right? No one is forcing you or your family to use government run healthcare, right?
You can choose to breathe water, right? No one is forcing you or your family to breathe air, right?
I see that you have chosen to not answer my questions.
Depends on how technical you want to get, we already breathe water. In any case, I am happy with my current breathing situation and I am not complaining about it.
But you seem to be unhappy and complaining about the government run healthcare that your family is using, hence the questions on whether you can choose healthcare that is not government run. Can you?
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@Jolly said in Government Efficiency:
@Axtremus said in Government Efficiency:
@Jolly, you can choose healthcare that is not government run, right? No one is forcing you or your family to use government run healthcare, right?
You can choose to breathe water, right? No one is forcing you or your family to breathe air, right?
The point is that private insurance is much, much more expensive than government. People who complain about how awful the government system is doing need to think about what state they'd be in without it.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Government Efficiency:
The point is that private insurance is much, much more expensive than government.
Before you reach Medicare age, there is Obamacare
Obamacare isn't exactly insurance or healthcare, it is charity. Obamacare pays for your private insurance. I used it for several years. They gave me some money and I used it to buy private insurance.
The basic plans are free, the government pays the entire premium. There are more expensive plans where the consumer has to pay part of the bill.
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@Jolly said in Government Efficiency:
@Axtremus said in Government Efficiency:
@Jolly, you can choose healthcare that is not government run, right? No one is forcing you or your family to use government run healthcare, right?
You can choose to breathe water, right? No one is forcing you or your family to breathe air, right?
I see that you have chosen to not answer my questions.
Depends on how technical you want to get, we already breathe water. In any case, I am happy with my current breathing situation and I am not complaining about it.
But you seem to be unhappy and complaining about the government run healthcare that your family is using, hence the questions on whether you can choose healthcare that is not government run. Can you?
@Axtremus said in Government Efficiency:
@Jolly said in Government Efficiency:
@Axtremus said in Government Efficiency:
@Jolly, you can choose healthcare that is not government run, right? No one is forcing you or your family to use government run healthcare, right?
You can choose to breathe water, right? No one is forcing you or your family to breathe air, right?
I see that you have chosen to not answer my questions.
Depends on how technical you want to get, we already breathe water. In any case, I am happy with my current breathing situation and I am not complaining about it.
But you seem to be unhappy and complaining about the government run healthcare that your family is using, hence the questions on whether you can choose healthcare that is not government run. Can you?
No, when you boldly exceed the light speed of stupid, you're not worthy of an answer.
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To be honest, the main reason I'm planning on working until I'm 65 rather than 62 is health insurance. I have a friend who retired at 62 and spends 6 months in Florida, the other 6 on The Cape, and most of his spare money seems to go on either health insurance or drinks with umbrellas in them.
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To be honest, the main reason I'm planning on working until I'm 65 rather than 62 is health insurance. I have a friend who retired at 62 and spends 6 months in Florida, the other 6 on The Cape, and most of his spare money seems to go on either health insurance or drinks with umbrellas in them.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Government Efficiency:
To be honest, the main reason I'm planning on working until I'm 65 rather than 62 is health insurance. I have a friend who retired at 62 and spends 6 months in Florida, the other 6 on The Cape, and most of his spare money seems to go on either health insurance or drinks with umbrellas in them.
If you're in the U.S., check out the government plans. The premiums might be exorbitant ($1100/ month or so), but if the wife has access to insurance, it may be worth it. Depends on how bad you wish to retire.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Government Efficiency:
To be honest, the main reason I'm planning on working until I'm 65 rather than 62 is health insurance. I have a friend who retired at 62 and spends 6 months in Florida, the other 6 on The Cape, and most of his spare money seems to go on either health insurance or drinks with umbrellas in them.
If you're in the U.S., check out the government plans. The premiums might be exorbitant ($1100/ month or so), but if the wife has access to insurance, it may be worth it. Depends on how bad you wish to retire.
@Jolly said in Government Efficiency:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Government Efficiency:
To be honest, the main reason I'm planning on working until I'm 65 rather than 62 is health insurance. I have a friend who retired at 62 and spends 6 months in Florida, the other 6 on The Cape, and most of his spare money seems to go on either health insurance or drinks with umbrellas in them.
If you're in the U.S., check out the government plans. The premiums might be exorbitant ($1100/ month or so), but if the wife has access to insurance, it may be worth it. Depends on how bad you wish to retire.
Thanks - I'll have to wait and see how I feel - I hit the rule of 85 at age 65 with my company pension, so there's an added incentive...
I was only joking
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Obamacare pays based on income.
If you are retired and living off of savings, your income may be very low.
With a low income Obamacare will pay for your insurance. You might have millions in the bank, but that doesn't matter. It's the income that matters.
I have been out of it for a few years, but that is how it used to work.
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@Jolly said in Government Efficiency:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Government Efficiency:
To be honest, the main reason I'm planning on working until I'm 65 rather than 62 is health insurance. I have a friend who retired at 62 and spends 6 months in Florida, the other 6 on The Cape, and most of his spare money seems to go on either health insurance or drinks with umbrellas in them.
If you're in the U.S., check out the government plans. The premiums might be exorbitant ($1100/ month or so), but if the wife has access to insurance, it may be worth it. Depends on how bad you wish to retire.
Thanks - I'll have to wait and see how I feel - I hit the rule of 85 at age 65 with my company pension, so there's an added incentive...
@Doctor-Phibes said in Government Efficiency:
@Jolly said in Government Efficiency:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Government Efficiency:
To be honest, the main reason I'm planning on working until I'm 65 rather than 62 is health insurance. I have a friend who retired at 62 and spends 6 months in Florida, the other 6 on The Cape, and most of his spare money seems to go on either health insurance or drinks with umbrellas in them.
If you're in the U.S., check out the government plans. The premiums might be exorbitant ($1100/ month or so), but if the wife has access to insurance, it may be worth it. Depends on how bad you wish to retire.
Thanks - I'll have to wait and see how I feel - I hit the rule of 85 at age 65 with my company pension, so there's an added incentive...
A lot of it depends on how you feel and whether you want to keep working. Word to the wise: If you are in good health and don't have something to keep you as busy as you are at your job, you may not enjoy retirement as much as you think you will.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Government Efficiency:
@Jolly said in Government Efficiency:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Government Efficiency:
To be honest, the main reason I'm planning on working until I'm 65 rather than 62 is health insurance. I have a friend who retired at 62 and spends 6 months in Florida, the other 6 on The Cape, and most of his spare money seems to go on either health insurance or drinks with umbrellas in them.
If you're in the U.S., check out the government plans. The premiums might be exorbitant ($1100/ month or so), but if the wife has access to insurance, it may be worth it. Depends on how bad you wish to retire.
Thanks - I'll have to wait and see how I feel - I hit the rule of 85 at age 65 with my company pension, so there's an added incentive...
A lot of it depends on how you feel and whether you want to keep working. Word to the wise: If you are in good health and don't have something to keep you as busy as you are at your job, you may not enjoy retirement as much as you think you will.
@Jolly said in Government Efficiency:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Government Efficiency:
@Jolly said in Government Efficiency:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Government Efficiency:
To be honest, the main reason I'm planning on working until I'm 65 rather than 62 is health insurance. I have a friend who retired at 62 and spends 6 months in Florida, the other 6 on The Cape, and most of his spare money seems to go on either health insurance or drinks with umbrellas in them.
If you're in the U.S., check out the government plans. The premiums might be exorbitant ($1100/ month or so), but if the wife has access to insurance, it may be worth it. Depends on how bad you wish to retire.
Thanks - I'll have to wait and see how I feel - I hit the rule of 85 at age 65 with my company pension, so there's an added incentive...
A lot of it depends on how you feel and whether you want to keep working. Word to the wise: If you are in good health and don't have something to keep you as busy as you are at your job, you may not enjoy retirement as much as you think you will.
I think I'll get a job of some sort, either paid or unpaid. Just not the one I'm doing.
A good friend of mine in Wales retired in his mid-50's and now works for a miner's charity. They give him a salary, but nothing spectacular, and he absolutely loves it - he works a couple of days a week, does their accounts as well as odd jobs. He made a ton of money at his job, but the stress was pretty excessive. I make less and have less stress, but still too much.
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I went from running a clinical lab to working as a retirement counselor for state, parish and city government employees and elected officials. Made less money, but worked from my home office and called on people in nine parishes (including almost all of the state prisons).
Had a blast.
Do something different. It's fun!
I have a friend who is a retired accountant, that went to work as counter help at a large sporting good store and now runs their range, along with their sponsored shooting competitions. Talk about different.
It's all good.
