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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #2

    How dare you!

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on last edited by
      #3

      Honestly, I don't blame her so much as I do the ridiculous culture that's encouraged her shenanigans. This coming from someone who's pretty damn lefty when it comes to environmental protection.

      Please love yourself.

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      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
        wrote on last edited by Mik
        #4

        I am all for environmental protection, but I want it to be sensible, not kneejerk, a labarynthine tangle of regulations that does more to promote EPA jobs than protect the environment.

        Everywhere I look I see us moving closer and closer to renewables and now maybe the smaller nuclear reactors. Electric cars are taking off. My BIL just brought online Arkanas' largest solar farm. It's happening by evolution, which tends to accelerate as it progresses. More regulation would just get in the way.

        I also support the Trump administration's common sense initiatives that I think balance conservation and responsible land use.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • taiwan_girlT Offline
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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on last edited by
          #5

          With most things, the final answer seems to end up in the middle - between the two extremes. In the case of environment, those who want 100% complete protection for the environment at the expense of everything, and those who want 0%.

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          • MikM Mik

            I am all for environmental protection, but I want it to be sensible, not kneejerk, a labarynthine tangle of regulations that does more to promote EPA jobs than protect the environment.

            Everywhere I look I see us moving closer and closer to renewables and now maybe the smaller nuclear reactors. Electric cars are taking off. My BIL just brought online Arkanas' largest solar farm. It's happening by evolution, which tends to accelerate as it progresses. More regulation would just get in the way.

            I also support the Trump administration's common sense initiatives that I think balance conservation and responsible land use.

            Aqua LetiferA Offline
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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on last edited by
            #6

            @Mik said in Greta's Dream:

            Everywhere I look I see us moving closer and closer to renewables and now maybe the smaller nuclear reactors. Electric cars are taking off. My BIL just brought online Arkanas' largest solar farm. It's happening by evolution, which tends to accelerate as it progresses. More regulation would just get in the way.

            There's a lot of really bad shit going on out there, though. Unlike the movies, it's seldom evil corporations purposely destroying the environment (and risking public health). A lot of times, spills happen because companies just cut corners.

            There's a ton of ridiculous regulation on the East Coast when it comes to environmental protection. I'm all for nasty, punitive consequences for incidents that harm the environment or risk public health. When the fine for screwing with tap water can be written off, there's a problem. But as for the other stuff? Fewer regs, please.

            Please love yourself.

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              With most things, the final answer seems to end up in the middle - between the two extremes. In the case of environment, those who want 100% complete protection for the environment at the expense of everything, and those who want 0%.

              MikM Away
              MikM Away
              Mik
              wrote on last edited by
              #7

              @taiwan_girl said in Greta's Dream:

              With most things, the final answer seems to end up in the middle - between the two extremes. In the case of environment, those who want 100% complete protection for the environment at the expense of everything, and those who want 0%.

              No one i have ever heard of wants zero protection. That would be ridiculous. But 100% is absurd too.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #8

                childhood.jpg

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG George K

                  childhood.jpg

                  AxtremusA Offline
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                  Axtremus
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                  #9

                  @george-k In all fairness, the other kids may not know what else childhood could be. Don’t discount Ms. Thuneburg’s advocacy just because there are other less fortunate kids. Such race to the bottom makes as much sense saying you cannot complain about paying too high a tax rate just because there are Scandinavians paying even higher tax rates who don’t complain about tax rates as much as you do.

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
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                    #10

                    I discount her because she's an idiot, manipulated by strings she doesn't even know exist. Along with manipulation by strings she knows that exist, and she just doesn't care.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #11

                      Screen-Shot-2022-08-30-at-12.37.09-PM.png.jpg

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by Jolly
                        #12

                        She's looking more and more like the useful idiot she is. The media seems not to love her anymore.

                        I think a lot of the unicorn fart people are going to go away before very long.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • MikM Away
                          MikM Away
                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #13

                          It's all high-minded civics until your family is going to freeze.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • AxtremusA Axtremus

                            @george-k In all fairness, the other kids may not know what else childhood could be. Don’t discount Ms. Thuneburg’s advocacy just because there are other less fortunate kids. Such race to the bottom makes as much sense saying you cannot complain about paying too high a tax rate just because there are Scandinavians paying even higher tax rates who don’t complain about tax rates as much as you do.

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                            Catseye3
                            wrote on last edited by Catseye3
                            #14

                            @Axtremus said in Greta's Dream:

                            In all fairness, the other kids may not know what else childhood could be.

                            An overwhelmingly sad state of affairs on its own.

                            I've changed my thinking on Greta. She has Asperger's which, as she says, makes her different from the norm. But more to the point, she has a right to her opinions and her outrages, none of which are any skin off my nose. She's just alleviating her intensity of feeling pretty much as the rest of us do in other realms. She's never harmed me. Maybe she'll even end up doing some good. Live and let live.

                            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                            • MikM Away
                              MikM Away
                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #15

                              I don't think anyone has anything against her as a person. I don't. It is how she was promoted and used for an agenda.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • MikM Mik

                                I don't think anyone has anything against her as a person. I don't. It is how she was promoted and used for an agenda.

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                                Catseye3
                                wrote on last edited by Catseye3
                                #16

                                @Mik said in Greta's Dream:

                                I don't think anyone has anything against her as a person. I don't. It is how she was promoted and used for an agenda.

                                It somehow translates to criticism and ridicule of her, though.

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                  @Axtremus said in Greta's Dream:

                                  In all fairness, the other kids may not know what else childhood could be.

                                  An overwhelmingly sad state of affairs on its own.

                                  I've changed my thinking on Greta. She has Asperger's which, as she says, makes her different from the norm. But more to the point, she has a right to her opinions and her outrages, none of which are any skin off my nose. She's just alleviating her intensity of feeling pretty much as the rest of us do in other realms. She's never harmed me. Maybe she'll even end up doing some good. Live and let live.

                                  JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #17

                                  @Catseye3 said in Greta's Dream:

                                  @Axtremus said in Greta's Dream:

                                  In all fairness, the other kids may not know what else childhood could be.

                                  An overwhelmingly sad state of affairs on its own.

                                  I've changed my thinking on Greta. She has Asperger's which, as she says, makes her different from the norm. But more to the point, she has a right to her opinions and her outrages, none of which are any skin off my nose. She's just alleviating her intensity of feeling pretty much as the rest of us do in other realms. She's never harmed me. Maybe she'll even end up doing some good. Live and let live.

                                  That's not entirely true.

                                  The agenda she has bally-hooed will hurt many of us, including you and me. Don't believe me, look at your utility bill.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    @Catseye3 said in Greta's Dream:

                                    @Axtremus said in Greta's Dream:

                                    In all fairness, the other kids may not know what else childhood could be.

                                    An overwhelmingly sad state of affairs on its own.

                                    I've changed my thinking on Greta. She has Asperger's which, as she says, makes her different from the norm. But more to the point, she has a right to her opinions and her outrages, none of which are any skin off my nose. She's just alleviating her intensity of feeling pretty much as the rest of us do in other realms. She's never harmed me. Maybe she'll even end up doing some good. Live and let live.

                                    That's not entirely true.

                                    The agenda she has bally-hooed will hurt many of us, including you and me. Don't believe me, look at your utility bill.

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                                    Catseye3
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #18

                                    @Jolly said in Greta's Dream:

                                    Don't believe me, look at your utility bill.

                                    Her ballyhooing wasn't responsible for that.

                                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                    • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                      @Jolly said in Greta's Dream:

                                      Don't believe me, look at your utility bill.

                                      Her ballyhooing wasn't responsible for that.

                                      JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #19

                                      @Catseye3 said in Greta's Dream:

                                      @Jolly said in Greta's Dream:

                                      Don't believe me, look at your utility bill.

                                      Her ballyhooing wasn't responsible for that.

                                      Yes, it is.

                                      Ask the guys working the NE gas fields or the hands on the Gulf rigs.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • HoraceH Online
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                                        Horace
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                                        #20

                                        It is, at best, morally questionable to puppeteer a child as a spokesperson of a political movement. I have seen zero people on the left wrestle with that question.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Jolly
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                                          #21

                                          Her own parents prostituted their child for a cause. They took her ASD and ran with it...

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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