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    Mik
    wrote on 23 Aug 2022, 00:26 last edited by
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    Let’s not help those who actually did something constructive with the money

    SMH.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      Axtremus
      wrote on 23 Aug 2022, 01:53 last edited by
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      Deuteronomy 15:1
      Matthew 6:12
      Colossians 2:14

      Instead of feeling “unfair” that more student debts get cancelled, perhaps think about what other debts should also be cancelled.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 23 Aug 2022, 02:31 last edited by jon-nyc
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        Perhaps we should quit lying-by-euphemism and stop talking about “canceling” debts, instead talk about transferring debts from the people who willingly took it on to other people, most of whom didn’t.

        Also there’s the practical problem that treating just this symptom actually will make the real problem (out of control university expenses, zero-sum game of education as costly signaling, etc) worse.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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          Jolly
          wrote on 23 Aug 2022, 02:38 last edited by
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          Hey, I didn't vote for him...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Horace
            wrote on 23 Aug 2022, 02:40 last edited by
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            At the end of a long day I sometimes relax with some TV with the family. Commercials for universities are all over the place. It’s so depressing watching this messaging aimed at mediocrities, convincing them to spend their money to become high class educated sorts.

            Education is extremely important.

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              23 Aug 2022, 02:31

              Perhaps we should quit lying-by-euphemism and stop talking about “canceling” debts, instead talk about transferring debts from the people who willingly took it on to other people, most of whom didn’t.

              Also there’s the practical problem that treating just this symptom actually will make the real problem (out of control university expenses, zero-sum game of education as costly signaling, etc) worse.

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              George K
              wrote on 24 Aug 2022, 11:37 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in Student loan cancellation:

              Perhaps we should quit lying-by-euphemism and stop talking about “canceling” debts, instead talk about transferring debts from the people who willingly took it on to other people, most of whom didn’t.

              Iowahawk channels @jon-nyc :

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                George K
                wrote on 24 Aug 2022, 11:53 last edited by
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                Once again, The Bee predicts the future.

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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 24 Aug 2022, 12:45 last edited by
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                  This feels like an unforced error on his part…

                  The Brad

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                    24 Aug 2022, 12:45

                    This feels like an unforced error on his part…

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 24 Aug 2022, 12:54 last edited by
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                    @LuFins-Dad said in Student loan cancellation:

                    This feels like an unforced error on his part…

                    It’s not really unforced - he’s under pressure from the left and he’s not exactly forcefully standing up to them. He also knows it’s probably never going to happen but the attempt may secure some votes from people who normally don’t vote at all.

                    I was only joking

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 24 Aug 2022, 12:55 last edited by
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                      He had to promise it to get the nomination.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        George K
                        wrote on 24 Aug 2022, 17:42 last edited by
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                        Pretty soon you're talking about real money.

                        The Biden administration is expected to announce this week whether to extend a freeze on student federal loan payments, and possibly even forgive some college debt for millions of Americans.

                        The plan under consideration by White House officials would cancel up to $10,000 in student loans per borrower, although that would likely be limited to those with annual income of less than $125,000. People who earn above that threshold wouldn't qualify for forgiveness.

                        Now, a new analysis estimates the total cost of forgiving that debt: almost $300 billion in the first year, according to the Penn Wharton Budget Model, a group of economists and data scientists at the University of Pennsylvania who analyze public policy to assess their economic and fiscal impact.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Axtremus
                          wrote on 24 Aug 2022, 17:50 last edited by
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                          Wharton budget model on student loan forgiveness:

                          https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/2022/8/23/forgiving-student-loans

                          Worth a look, it’s good and relevant work on Wharton’s part.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 24 Aug 2022, 20:30 last edited by
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                            13 months ago...

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                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Copper
                              wrote on 24 Aug 2022, 20:42 last edited by
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                              He must be insane

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                                George K
                                wrote on 24 Aug 2022, 21:02 last edited by
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                                Somewhere, and I can't find it at the moment, one analysis said that, even with this proposed cancellation transfer of debt will result in us being in exactly the same place, four years hence.

                                Let's go, Brandon!

                                Also, by what statutory authority does President Klain Biden do this?

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 24 Aug 2022, 21:07 last edited by
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                                  Pay up, plebs...

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                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    23 Aug 2022, 01:53

                                    Deuteronomy 15:1
                                    Matthew 6:12
                                    Colossians 2:14

                                    Instead of feeling “unfair” that more student debts get cancelled, perhaps think about what other debts should also be cancelled.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 24 Aug 2022, 21:08 last edited by
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                                    @Axtremus said in Student loan cancellation:

                                    Instead of feeling “unfair” that more student debts get cancelled, perhaps think about what other debts should also be cancelled.

                                    Have you asked your bank to cancel your mortgage?

                                    How about your car loan?

                                    I look forward to hearing your strategies, perhaps your successes will inspire me to try them!

                                    Thank you, in advance!

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on 24 Aug 2022, 21:10 last edited by
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                                      If there are votes to be bought with further redistributions, rest assured there are no leftist principles that will get in the way.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 24 Aug 2022, 21:34 last edited by
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                                        President Klain Biden Brandon comments on "fairness."

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 24 Aug 2022, 21:35 last edited by
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                                          How many votes have been swayed to vote D because of this? I seriously doubt any… Generally that age group already voted D or doesn’t vote at all. At the same time this is going to have pissed off a lot of people including independents. This will ultimately cost his party and it happens when they were actually building a little momentum…

                                          The Brad

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