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    Catseye3
    wrote on 23 Aug 2022, 15:44 last edited by
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    Hey, Aqua. Is this thing she wrote as bad as I think it is?

    How dreary to be somebody!
    How public, like a frog
    To tell your name the livelong June
    To an admiring bog!

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      Mik
      wrote on 23 Aug 2022, 16:16 last edited by
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      I think it's brilliant.

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        23 Aug 2022, 16:16

        I think it's brilliant.

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        Catseye3
        wrote on 23 Aug 2022, 16:17 last edited by
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        @Mik
        Okay. I know about poetry like I know about the rings of Saturn, so you can't prove anything by me.

        I just think it's kinda clunky.

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          23 Aug 2022, 15:44

          Hey, Aqua. Is this thing she wrote as bad as I think it is?

          How dreary to be somebody!
          How public, like a frog
          To tell your name the livelong June
          To an admiring bog!

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 23 Aug 2022, 16:19 last edited by
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          @Catseye3 said in Emily Dickinson's Silly Side:

          Hey, Aqua. Is this thing she wrote as bad as I think it is?

          How dreary to be somebody!
          How public, like a frog
          To tell your name the livelong June
          To an admiring bog!

          What exactly do you think is bad about it?

          Please love yourself.

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            23 Aug 2022, 16:19

            @Catseye3 said in Emily Dickinson's Silly Side:

            Hey, Aqua. Is this thing she wrote as bad as I think it is?

            How dreary to be somebody!
            How public, like a frog
            To tell your name the livelong June
            To an admiring bog!

            What exactly do you think is bad about it?

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            Catseye3
            wrote on 23 Aug 2022, 16:24 last edited by
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            @Aqua-Letifer

            It strikes me as clunky, and random (how is a frog more public than anybody/thing else?) except that "frog" conveniently rhymes with "bog" unlike, say, "giraffe". And why dreary? Just kind of woolgathery and not making much sense.

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            • C Catseye3
              23 Aug 2022, 16:24

              @Aqua-Letifer

              It strikes me as clunky, and random (how is a frog more public than anybody/thing else?) except that "frog" conveniently rhymes with "bog" unlike, say, "giraffe". And why dreary? Just kind of woolgathery and not making much sense.

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on 23 Aug 2022, 16:30 last edited by
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              @Catseye3 said in Emily Dickinson's Silly Side:

              @Aqua-Letifer

              how is a frog more public than anybody/thing else?

              Frogs croak loudly to no one in particular, over and over again, to an audience of a bog. She's saying that Important People are just like that.

              In fact, "public — like a frog" even implies that being a public person necessarily means loudly croaking to whomever's in earshot.

              And why dreary?

              Because Emily Dickinson lived in the 1800s. Back then, it was more common than it is now to use the word to describe dull and boring things.

              Please love yourself.

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                23 Aug 2022, 16:30

                @Catseye3 said in Emily Dickinson's Silly Side:

                @Aqua-Letifer

                how is a frog more public than anybody/thing else?

                Frogs croak loudly to no one in particular, over and over again, to an audience of a bog. She's saying that Important People are just like that.

                In fact, "public — like a frog" even implies that being a public person necessarily means loudly croaking to whomever's in earshot.

                And why dreary?

                Because Emily Dickinson lived in the 1800s. Back then, it was more common than it is now to use the word to describe dull and boring things.

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                Catseye3
                wrote on 23 Aug 2022, 16:34 last edited by Catseye3
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                @Aqua-Letifer

                Okay, I get it. It still doesn't make me sigh with rapture, but I can dig snark.

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on 23 Aug 2022, 16:36 last edited by
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                  It's not my favorite kind of thing—I personally find her tone to not resonate very well with me—but nonetheless I think she was successful in being pretty damn clever.

                  Reading some Dickinson lately?

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • A Aqua Letifer
                    23 Aug 2022, 16:36

                    It's not my favorite kind of thing—I personally find her tone to not resonate very well with me—but nonetheless I think she was successful in being pretty damn clever.

                    Reading some Dickinson lately?

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                    Catseye3
                    wrote on 23 Aug 2022, 16:39 last edited by
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                    @Aqua-Letifer said in Emily Dickinson's Silly Side:

                    Reading some Dickinson lately?

                    No. I was reading the Look Inside of a PJ O'Rourke book and he included it.

                    Don't hate me, but I don't read poetry.

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    • C Catseye3
                      23 Aug 2022, 16:39

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Emily Dickinson's Silly Side:

                      Reading some Dickinson lately?

                      No. I was reading the Look Inside of a PJ O'Rourke book and he included it.

                      Don't hate me, but I don't read poetry.

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                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on 23 Aug 2022, 16:47 last edited by
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                      @Catseye3 said in Emily Dickinson's Silly Side:

                      Don't hate me, but I don't read poetry.

                      All good, no one does. Which is almost entirely the fault of the poetry community.

                      Please love yourself.

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 23 Aug 2022, 17:20 last edited by
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                        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                          23 Aug 2022, 16:47

                          @Catseye3 said in Emily Dickinson's Silly Side:

                          Don't hate me, but I don't read poetry.

                          All good, no one does. Which is almost entirely the fault of the poetry community.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 23 Aug 2022, 19:04 last edited by
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                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Emily Dickinson's Silly Side:

                          @Catseye3 said in Emily Dickinson's Silly Side:

                          Don't hate me, but I don't read poetry.

                          All good, no one does. Which is almost entirely the fault of the poetry community.

                          Well, Baxter Black died recently. There is that...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 23 Aug 2022, 19:11 last edited by Mik
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                            I’d bet I’m the only other one here - maybe Aqua - who knows who he was and has read some of his stuff.

                            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                              Catseye3
                              wrote on 23 Aug 2022, 21:09 last edited by Catseye3
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                              That includes me. Not knowing who he was, I mean.

                              Here's a bio and profile of Baxter Black: https://www.npr.org/2022/06/13/1104529533/baxter-black-obituary

                              Great name, wot?

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                23 Aug 2022, 19:11

                                I’d bet I’m the only other one here - maybe Aqua - who knows who he was and has read some of his stuff.

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on 23 Aug 2022, 21:38 last edited by
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                                @Mik said in Emily Dickinson's Silly Side:

                                I’d bet I’m the only other one here - maybe Aqua - who knows who he was and has read some of his stuff.

                                I love Baxter Black. He writes traditionally, but he's accessible and has a colloquial style.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 23 Aug 2022, 22:05 last edited by
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                                  Waddie Mitchell and Baxter Black (his first time on The Tonight Show)

                                  Link to video

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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