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  • J Jolly
    16 Aug 2022, 16:33

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

    @Mik said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

    Absolutely. They didn't give him anything like a fair chance.

    It's entirely his own fucking fault. It's exactly what he wanted.

    Trump started running when woke culture was well past the point of being pervasive. It was a serious problem. In the presidential election, it would have been disastrous to vote in someone who would placate their shenanigans.

    But no, we get some asshole who legitimizes the woke narrative instead. Someone who mocks reporters with disabilities, mocks illegal immigrants, and brags about sexual harassment: exactly the sort of shit the wokes were accusing every out-group of doing.

    The far right loved it of course, because they've been ridiculed and attacked so much in the media and online that they could no longer tell the difference between someone who's pouring gas on the problem for his own ends, and their own personal political savior. Nevermind the fact that this was just as damaging—fuck 'em, Hillary sucks and someone needs to get the wokes to shut up.

    Well they didn't shut up because you didn't vote in a functioning adult. You voted for a troll you saw as Atticus Finch simply because he trolled for your side.

    What we needed was an adult in the room, someone whose reasonability would act as a foil to the increasing craziness of woke culture. Such a person would have had tons of moderate support and could have made a serious go at stopping this nonsense. Instead we voted in a firestarter and look where we're at.

    Ah, the MSM shares no blame, do they? And neither does the government?

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    Aqua Letifer
    wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 16:37 last edited by
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    @Jolly said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

    @Mik said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

    Absolutely. They didn't give him anything like a fair chance.

    It's entirely his own fucking fault. It's exactly what he wanted.

    Trump started running when woke culture was well past the point of being pervasive. It was a serious problem. In the presidential election, it would have been disastrous to vote in someone who would placate their shenanigans.

    But no, we get some asshole who legitimizes the woke narrative instead. Someone who mocks reporters with disabilities, mocks illegal immigrants, and brags about sexual harassment: exactly the sort of shit the wokes were accusing every out-group of doing.

    The far right loved it of course, because they've been ridiculed and attacked so much in the media and online that they could no longer tell the difference between someone who's pouring gas on the problem for his own ends, and their own personal political savior. Nevermind the fact that this was just as damaging—fuck 'em, Hillary sucks and someone needs to get the wokes to shut up.

    Well they didn't shut up because you didn't vote in a functioning adult. You voted for a troll you saw as Atticus Finch simply because he trolled for your side.

    What we needed was an adult in the room, someone whose reasonability would act as a foil to the increasing craziness of woke culture. Such a person would have had tons of moderate support and could have made a serious go at stopping this nonsense. Instead we voted in a firestarter and look where we're at.

    Ah, the MSM shares no blame, do they? And neither does the government?

    The MSM is a principal driver of woke culture and the government is feeding into it just as Trump feeds into his own brand of outrage to serve his own ends. But I was responding to Trump's role in his unfair treatment, not every component of our political landscape.

    Please love yourself.

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    • A Aqua Letifer
      16 Aug 2022, 16:37

      @Jolly said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

      @Aqua-Letifer said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

      @Mik said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

      Absolutely. They didn't give him anything like a fair chance.

      It's entirely his own fucking fault. It's exactly what he wanted.

      Trump started running when woke culture was well past the point of being pervasive. It was a serious problem. In the presidential election, it would have been disastrous to vote in someone who would placate their shenanigans.

      But no, we get some asshole who legitimizes the woke narrative instead. Someone who mocks reporters with disabilities, mocks illegal immigrants, and brags about sexual harassment: exactly the sort of shit the wokes were accusing every out-group of doing.

      The far right loved it of course, because they've been ridiculed and attacked so much in the media and online that they could no longer tell the difference between someone who's pouring gas on the problem for his own ends, and their own personal political savior. Nevermind the fact that this was just as damaging—fuck 'em, Hillary sucks and someone needs to get the wokes to shut up.

      Well they didn't shut up because you didn't vote in a functioning adult. You voted for a troll you saw as Atticus Finch simply because he trolled for your side.

      What we needed was an adult in the room, someone whose reasonability would act as a foil to the increasing craziness of woke culture. Such a person would have had tons of moderate support and could have made a serious go at stopping this nonsense. Instead we voted in a firestarter and look where we're at.

      Ah, the MSM shares no blame, do they? And neither does the government?

      The MSM is a principal driver of woke culture and the government is feeding into it just as Trump feeds into his own brand of outrage to serve his own ends. But I was responding to Trump's role in his unfair treatment, not every component of our political landscape.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 16:39 last edited by
      #10

      @Aqua-Letifer said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

      @Jolly said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

      @Aqua-Letifer said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

      @Mik said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

      Absolutely. They didn't give him anything like a fair chance.

      It's entirely his own fucking fault. It's exactly what he wanted.

      Trump started running when woke culture was well past the point of being pervasive. It was a serious problem. In the presidential election, it would have been disastrous to vote in someone who would placate their shenanigans.

      But no, we get some asshole who legitimizes the woke narrative instead. Someone who mocks reporters with disabilities, mocks illegal immigrants, and brags about sexual harassment: exactly the sort of shit the wokes were accusing every out-group of doing.

      The far right loved it of course, because they've been ridiculed and attacked so much in the media and online that they could no longer tell the difference between someone who's pouring gas on the problem for his own ends, and their own personal political savior. Nevermind the fact that this was just as damaging—fuck 'em, Hillary sucks and someone needs to get the wokes to shut up.

      Well they didn't shut up because you didn't vote in a functioning adult. You voted for a troll you saw as Atticus Finch simply because he trolled for your side.

      What we needed was an adult in the room, someone whose reasonability would act as a foil to the increasing craziness of woke culture. Such a person would have had tons of moderate support and could have made a serious go at stopping this nonsense. Instead we voted in a firestarter and look where we're at.

      Ah, the MSM shares no blame, do they? And neither does the government?

      The MSM is a principal driver of woke culture and the government is feeding into it just as Trump feeds into his own brand of outrage to serve his own ends. But I was responding to Trump's role in his unfair treatment, not every component of our political landscape.

      Take it as a whole. I think that's the best way to consider it.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • J Jolly
        16 Aug 2022, 16:39

        @Aqua-Letifer said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

        @Jolly said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

        @Aqua-Letifer said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

        @Mik said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

        Absolutely. They didn't give him anything like a fair chance.

        It's entirely his own fucking fault. It's exactly what he wanted.

        Trump started running when woke culture was well past the point of being pervasive. It was a serious problem. In the presidential election, it would have been disastrous to vote in someone who would placate their shenanigans.

        But no, we get some asshole who legitimizes the woke narrative instead. Someone who mocks reporters with disabilities, mocks illegal immigrants, and brags about sexual harassment: exactly the sort of shit the wokes were accusing every out-group of doing.

        The far right loved it of course, because they've been ridiculed and attacked so much in the media and online that they could no longer tell the difference between someone who's pouring gas on the problem for his own ends, and their own personal political savior. Nevermind the fact that this was just as damaging—fuck 'em, Hillary sucks and someone needs to get the wokes to shut up.

        Well they didn't shut up because you didn't vote in a functioning adult. You voted for a troll you saw as Atticus Finch simply because he trolled for your side.

        What we needed was an adult in the room, someone whose reasonability would act as a foil to the increasing craziness of woke culture. Such a person would have had tons of moderate support and could have made a serious go at stopping this nonsense. Instead we voted in a firestarter and look where we're at.

        Ah, the MSM shares no blame, do they? And neither does the government?

        The MSM is a principal driver of woke culture and the government is feeding into it just as Trump feeds into his own brand of outrage to serve his own ends. But I was responding to Trump's role in his unfair treatment, not every component of our political landscape.

        Take it as a whole. I think that's the best way to consider it.

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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 16:43 last edited by
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        @Jolly said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

        @Aqua-Letifer said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

        @Jolly said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

        @Aqua-Letifer said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

        @Mik said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

        Absolutely. They didn't give him anything like a fair chance.

        It's entirely his own fucking fault. It's exactly what he wanted.

        Trump started running when woke culture was well past the point of being pervasive. It was a serious problem. In the presidential election, it would have been disastrous to vote in someone who would placate their shenanigans.

        But no, we get some asshole who legitimizes the woke narrative instead. Someone who mocks reporters with disabilities, mocks illegal immigrants, and brags about sexual harassment: exactly the sort of shit the wokes were accusing every out-group of doing.

        The far right loved it of course, because they've been ridiculed and attacked so much in the media and online that they could no longer tell the difference between someone who's pouring gas on the problem for his own ends, and their own personal political savior. Nevermind the fact that this was just as damaging—fuck 'em, Hillary sucks and someone needs to get the wokes to shut up.

        Well they didn't shut up because you didn't vote in a functioning adult. You voted for a troll you saw as Atticus Finch simply because he trolled for your side.

        What we needed was an adult in the room, someone whose reasonability would act as a foil to the increasing craziness of woke culture. Such a person would have had tons of moderate support and could have made a serious go at stopping this nonsense. Instead we voted in a firestarter and look where we're at.

        Ah, the MSM shares no blame, do they? And neither does the government?

        The MSM is a principal driver of woke culture and the government is feeding into it just as Trump feeds into his own brand of outrage to serve his own ends. But I was responding to Trump's role in his unfair treatment, not every component of our political landscape.

        Take it as a whole. I think that's the best way to consider it.

        The look of the landscape as a whole is why I think we would have been much better served with a straight man in office rather than another fool. Most people, at the time of the Trump/Hillary election, wanted very little to do with the culture wars but had a sneaking suspicion the lefty narrative was becoming problematic. I don't think Hillary was the unstoppable force she was made out to be.

        But the GOP really had no better ideas.

        Please love yourself.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 16:48 last edited by
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          Agent of Chaos.

          You may not like his methods, but Trump is a catalyst. He makes things happen. He imbues clarity to a foggy political landscape. Hate him or love him, by the time he gets through, something has happened.

          He's good at it.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • J Jolly
            16 Aug 2022, 16:48

            Agent of Chaos.

            You may not like his methods, but Trump is a catalyst. He makes things happen. He imbues clarity to a foggy political landscape. Hate him or love him, by the time he gets through, something has happened.

            He's good at it.

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            Axtremus
            wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 21:03 last edited by Axtremus
            #13

            @Jolly said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

            … by the time he gets through, something has happened.

            Like what? The beautiful southern border wall that Mexico was supposed to pay for? The repeal and replacement of ObamaCare? Huge infrastructure deal for the country? (Biden signed huge infrastructure deal into law back in Nov. 2021, by the way.) Letting Medicare negotiate drug prices? (EDIT: Biden is expected to sign this into law this week signed this into law today, by the way.)

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            • A Aqua Letifer
              16 Aug 2022, 16:08

              @Mik said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

              Absolutely. They didn't give him anything like a fair chance.

              It's entirely his own fucking fault. It's exactly what he wanted.

              Trump started running when woke culture was well past the point of being pervasive. It was a serious problem. In the presidential election, it would have been disastrous to vote in someone who would placate their shenanigans.

              But no, we get some asshole who legitimizes the woke narrative instead. Someone who mocks reporters with disabilities, mocks illegal immigrants, and brags about sexual harassment: exactly the sort of shit the wokes were accusing every out-group of doing.

              The far right loved it of course, because they've been ridiculed and attacked so much in the media and online that they could no longer tell the difference between someone who's pouring gas on the problem for his own ends, and their own personal political savior. Nevermind the fact that this was just as damaging—fuck 'em, Hillary sucks and someone needs to get the wokes to shut up.

              Well they didn't shut up because you didn't vote in a functioning adult. You voted for a troll you saw as Atticus Finch simply because he trolled for your side.

              What we needed was an adult in the room, someone whose reasonability would act as a foil to the increasing craziness of woke culture. Such a person would have had tons of moderate support and could have made a serious go at stopping this nonsense. Instead we voted in a firestarter and look where we're at.

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              Catseye3
              wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 21:27 last edited by
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              @Aqua-Letifer said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

              It's entirely his own fucking fault. It's exactly what he wanted.

              I'm wondering if this whole FBI business is more of the same.

              I can never forget what he said during one of his impeachments, I think it was: "I always find a way to win."

              But no, we get some asshole who legitimizes the woke narrative instead. Someone who mocks reporters with disabilities, mocks illegal immigrants, and brags about sexual harassment: exactly the sort of shit the wokes were accusing every out-group of doing.
              The far right loved it of course, . . . they could no longer tell the difference between someone who's pouring gas on the problem for his own ends, and their own personal political savior. You voted for a troll you saw as Atticus Finch simply because he trolled for your side.
              What we needed was an adult in the room, someone whose reasonability would act as a foil to the increasing craziness of woke culture.

              👍

              Such a person would have had tons of moderate support and could have made a serious go at stopping this nonsense. Instead we voted in a firestarter and look where we're at.

              Wouldn't it be wonderful if it isn't too late to do just that? What names, if any, come to mind?

              They'd need to get busy, though. It's this close to being too late.

              Excellent essay, Aqua. You said very skillfully exactly like it is.

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                16 Aug 2022, 21:03

                @Jolly said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

                … by the time he gets through, something has happened.

                Like what? The beautiful southern border wall that Mexico was supposed to pay for? The repeal and replacement of ObamaCare? Huge infrastructure deal for the country? (Biden signed huge infrastructure deal into law back in Nov. 2021, by the way.) Letting Medicare negotiate drug prices? (EDIT: Biden is expected to sign this into law this week signed this into law today, by the way.)

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                George K
                wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 22:21 last edited by
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                @Axtremus said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

                Letting Medicare negotiate drug prices? (Biden is expected to sign this into law this week, by the way.)

                When Bloomberg calls the bill a "behemoth," that tells you something.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 23:20 last edited by
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                  And...Justice refuses to release the affidavit. After being asked to by Trump.

                  So...Prediction: They'll dribble this thing out, a snippet here, a name there, and will ride it through at least November.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • J Jolly
                    16 Aug 2022, 23:20

                    And...Justice refuses to release the affidavit. After being asked to by Trump.

                    So...Prediction: They'll dribble this thing out, a snippet here, a name there, and will ride it through at least November.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 23:32 last edited by jon-nyc
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                    @Jolly said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

                    And...Justice refuses to release the affidavit. After being asked to by Trump.

                    Why would law enforcement tell a suspect of an investigation exactly what they know and how they know it, who tipped them off about what, etc?

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 16 Aug 2022, 23:51 last edited by
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                      You howled because Trump didn't immediately call for the release of the warrant.

                      Now, you want the affidavit locked away in a box.

                      Make up your mind.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • J Jolly
                        16 Aug 2022, 23:51

                        You howled because Trump didn't immediately call for the release of the warrant.

                        Now, you want the affidavit locked away in a box.

                        Make up your mind.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 02:53 last edited by
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                        @Jolly said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

                        You howled because Trump didn't immediately call for the release of the warrant.

                        Now, you want the affidavit locked away in a box.

                        Make up your mind.

                        No. He didn’t need to call for it’s release. He could publish it at will.

                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                        • J jon-nyc
                          17 Aug 2022, 02:53

                          @Jolly said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

                          You howled because Trump didn't immediately call for the release of the warrant.

                          Now, you want the affidavit locked away in a box.

                          Make up your mind.

                          No. He didn’t need to call for it’s release. He could publish it at will.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 02:58 last edited by
                          #20

                          @jon-nyc said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

                          @Jolly said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

                          You howled because Trump didn't immediately call for the release of the warrant.

                          Now, you want the affidavit locked away in a box.

                          Make up your mind.

                          No. He didn’t need to call for it’s release. He could publish it at will.

                          Was it published?

                          Yes, it was.

                          Now, why won't Justice publish the affidavit?

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • J Jolly
                            17 Aug 2022, 02:58

                            @jon-nyc said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

                            @Jolly said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

                            You howled because Trump didn't immediately call for the release of the warrant.

                            Now, you want the affidavit locked away in a box.

                            Make up your mind.

                            No. He didn’t need to call for it’s release. He could publish it at will.

                            Was it published?

                            Yes, it was.

                            Now, why won't Justice publish the affidavit?

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 03:02 last edited by
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                            @Jolly

                            As I said a few posts up:

                            Why would law enforcement tell a suspect of an investigation exactly what they know and how they know it, who tipped them off about what, etc?

                            Can you think of other criminal investigation targets who got to see exactly what the government knew and how they knew it?

                            I’ll wait for an answer this time.

                            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                            • J Jolly
                              17 Aug 2022, 02:58

                              @jon-nyc said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

                              @Jolly said in Cal Thomas on American confidence:

                              You howled because Trump didn't immediately call for the release of the warrant.

                              Now, you want the affidavit locked away in a box.

                              Make up your mind.

                              No. He didn’t need to call for it’s release. He could publish it at will.

                              Was it published?

                              Yes, it was.

                              Now, why won't Justice publish the affidavit?

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 03:43 last edited by
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                              Because of past experiences, I think it would behoove the FBI to be more upfront.

                              This ain't like nothing else

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Copper
                                wrote on 17 Aug 2022, 14:27 last edited by
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                                If the FBI is a division of the democrat party and no longer a government agency then the rules have changed.

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