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"If you're innocent, why do you need a lawyer?"

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    Jonah Goldberg talks about the joys of an audit (thread).

    Oh, Comey...

    In the case of the Comeys, it cost $5,000 in accountant fees. The IRS agent conducting the audit spent at least 50 working hours on it, including meeting face to face with the family's accountant, who drove several hours to meet the agent, according to internal IRS documents produced in response to a Freedom of Information Act request filed by The Times.

    Along with having to produce all of his personal financial information, such as brokerage and bank statements, Comey gave the IRS a copy of his family's Christmas card that had a photograph to prove that he had the children he had claimed as dependents.

    Comey's audit, which lasted more than a year, revealed that he and his wife, Patrice Comey, had overpaid their 2017 federal income taxes. They received a $347 refund.

    But it's to tax the rich! Right?

    Nope:

    More than half of the agency’s audits in 2021 were directed at taxpayers with incomes less than $75,000, according to IRS data. More than 4 in 10 of its audits targeted recipients of the earned income tax credit, one of the country’s main anti-poverty measures.

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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      Jonah Goldberg talks about the joys of an audit (thread).

      Oh, Comey...

      In the case of the Comeys, it cost $5,000 in accountant fees. The IRS agent conducting the audit spent at least 50 working hours on it, including meeting face to face with the family's accountant, who drove several hours to meet the agent, according to internal IRS documents produced in response to a Freedom of Information Act request filed by The Times.

      Along with having to produce all of his personal financial information, such as brokerage and bank statements, Comey gave the IRS a copy of his family's Christmas card that had a photograph to prove that he had the children he had claimed as dependents.

      Comey's audit, which lasted more than a year, revealed that he and his wife, Patrice Comey, had overpaid their 2017 federal income taxes. They received a $347 refund.

      But it's to tax the rich! Right?

      Nope:

      More than half of the agency’s audits in 2021 were directed at taxpayers with incomes less than $75,000, according to IRS data. More than 4 in 10 of its audits targeted recipients of the earned income tax credit, one of the country’s main anti-poverty measures.

      Screen Shot 2022-08-08 at 5.30.13 PM.png

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      @George-K said in "If you're innocent, why do you need a lawyer?":

      Just for fun I looked up the income distribution % in the US

      0 - 75K = 54%
      75K - 200K = 35%
      '>200K = 10%

      Audit chance
      0-75 = 51%
      75-200 = 26%
      '> 200 = 23%

      Seems like best to make between 75 and 200. LOL

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      • CopperC Offline
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        Defund the IRS

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Show me the W4 and I'll show you the fine.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • George KG Offline
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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              #8

              Lol

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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                The thread title echos Trump in 2016: “If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”

                Link to video

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  The thread title echos Trump in 2016: “If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”

                  Link to video

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                  @Axtremus Shhhhh

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                    @Axtremus Shhhhh

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                    @taiwan_girl said in "If you're innocent, why do you need a lawyer?":

                    @Axtremus Shhhhh

                    I fail to see the correlation. I see the correlation Ax went for and missed, but I know that you are smarter than that.

                    The Brad

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                      #12

                      To play devil advocate, here is why the IRS does need additional money

                      The cafeteria at the Texas IRS office.
                      alt text

                      Article about walking through the office and how outdated it is

                      There is a picture in the article above of the computer screens used and they have the old "green" lettering from the 1990's or so. For you computer people here, they said that the programs used are written in COBOL.

                      Now, making taxes easier would solve alot of the problems. I often thought they should eliminate all deductions etc. You make this much, you pay this much.

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