Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse

The New Coffee Room

  1. TNCR
  2. General Discussion
  3. Mar-a-Lago raided

Mar-a-Lago raided

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved General Discussion
780 Posts 20 Posters 39.6k Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • HoraceH Offline
    HoraceH Offline
    Horace
    wrote on last edited by
    #224

    They are trying to unseal the search warrant. That's good. Nothing else of substance. Standard righteous boilerplate at the end about how the Justice Dept is above reproach and how dare anybody question those self -sacrificing angels of propriety.

    Education is extremely important.

    1 Reply Last reply
    • George KG George K

      Behind a paywall, but NYT says that Trump was subpoenaed before the raid search.

      HoraceH Offline
      HoraceH Offline
      Horace
      wrote on last edited by
      #225

      @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

      Behind a paywall, but NYT says that Trump was subpoenaed before the raid search.

      That was implied by Garland, when he said that before a search warrant is pursued, less intrusive avenues are exhausted.

      Education is extremely important.

      1 Reply Last reply
      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
        wrote on last edited by
        #226

        Anticlimactic.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

        1 Reply Last reply
        • George KG Offline
          George KG Offline
          George K
          wrote on last edited by
          #227

          "Equal justice."

          Apparently forging documents only causes a 1 year suspension of your law license and reinstatement in your job.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

          HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
          • George KG George K

            "Equal justice."

            Apparently forging documents only causes a 1 year suspension of your law license and reinstatement in your job.

            HoraceH Offline
            HoraceH Offline
            Horace
            wrote on last edited by
            #228

            @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

            "Equal justice."

            Apparently forging documents only causes a 1 year suspension of your law license and reinstatement in your job.

            Principled leaders never apologize for or acknowledge unprincipled behavior within their organization. These are advanced theories of principled behavior that are probably beyond most, but you'll just have to trust those who are expert in principle to define the way in which principled people act.

            Education is extremely important.

            1 Reply Last reply
            • Catseye3C Offline
              Catseye3C Offline
              Catseye3
              wrote on last edited by
              #229

              Setting aside my suspicion that y'all were prepared to excoriate Garland no matter what he said, what could he have said that would have left you satisfied? What did you want him to say?

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

              HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
              • Catseye3C Catseye3

                Setting aside my suspicion that y'all were prepared to excoriate Garland no matter what he said, what could he have said that would have left you satisfied? What did you want him to say?

                HoraceH Offline
                HoraceH Offline
                Horace
                wrote on last edited by
                #230

                @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                Setting aside my suspicion that y'all were prepared to excoriate Garland no matter what he said, what could he have said that would have left you satisfied? What did you want him to say?

                He made it clear that he wouldn't have said anything if left to his druthers. He wants his court filings to speak for the department. He was behind a microphone under protest and as a principled person, who needed to make public his defense of his unfairly maligned department. I don't think anybody expected him to say anything of substance, and he made clear that his intent is to never say anything of substance going forward, beyond public court filings.

                Education is extremely important.

                1 Reply Last reply
                • MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #231

                  All of this that he purports to release to the public - and I won't hold my breath - should have been ready to go the day they did this raid. The backlash was completely predictable and unnecessary. Why...it's almost like they WANT us up in arms and at each other's throats.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  • MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #232

                    alt text

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

                    Aqua LetiferA HoraceH 2 Replies Last reply
                    • MikM Mik

                      alt text

                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
                      Aqua Letifer
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #233

                      @Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                      alt text

                      Brilliant.

                      Please love yourself.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      • AxtremusA Offline
                        AxtremusA Offline
                        Axtremus
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #234

                        https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2022-08-11/garland-statement-trump-search-mar-a-lago-fbi-doj

                        "WASHINGTON — The Department of Justice is moving to unseal the search warrant and the itemized receipt of what was taken from former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence earlier this week, Atty. Gen. Merrick Garland said Thursday, his first public comments since the FBI search took place."

                        They will release not only the search warrant but also the itemized receipt of what was taken from Mar-a-Lago. To that I say good.

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        • MikM Away
                          MikM Away
                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #235

                          IF the Florida group gives its OK. My prediction is they will say no, and poor Merrick's hands will be tied.

                          Poor guy. He tried to be open with us. Right? RIGHT?

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

                          Catseye3C 1 Reply Last reply
                          • JollyJ Offline
                            JollyJ Offline
                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #236

                            Trump said he will make the warrant public.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                            AxtremusA 1 Reply Last reply
                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              Trump said he will make the warrant public.

                              AxtremusA Offline
                              AxtremusA Offline
                              Axtremus
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #237

                              @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                              Trump said he will make the warrant public.

                              Trump can also release the itemized receipt of what was taken too, because standard procedure says the FBI would leave behind a copy of the itemized receipt at the searched venue right after they are done executing the search warrant.

                              Of course, Trump could also have released the warrant and the itemized receipt much earlier; way before AG Garland says the DOJ will move to do so.

                              LuFins DadL JollyJ 2 Replies Last reply
                              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                Trump said he will make the warrant public.

                                Trump can also release the itemized receipt of what was taken too, because standard procedure says the FBI would leave behind a copy of the itemized receipt at the searched venue right after they are done executing the search warrant.

                                Of course, Trump could also have released the warrant and the itemized receipt much earlier; way before AG Garland says the DOJ will move to do so.

                                LuFins DadL Offline
                                LuFins DadL Offline
                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #238

                                @Axtremus said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                Trump said he will make the warrant public.

                                Trump can also release the itemized receipt of what was taken too, because standard procedure says the FBI would leave behind a copy of the itemized receipt at the searched venue right after they are done executing the search warrant.

                                Of course, Trump could also have released the warrant and the itemized receipt much earlier; way before AG Garland says the DOJ will move to do so.

                                Do they leave a receipt of what was left behind, too?

                                The Brad

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                  Trump said he will make the warrant public.

                                  Trump can also release the itemized receipt of what was taken too, because standard procedure says the FBI would leave behind a copy of the itemized receipt at the searched venue right after they are done executing the search warrant.

                                  Of course, Trump could also have released the warrant and the itemized receipt much earlier; way before AG Garland says the DOJ will move to do so.

                                  JollyJ Offline
                                  JollyJ Offline
                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #239

                                  @Axtremus said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                  @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                  Trump said he will make the warrant public.

                                  Trump can also release the itemized receipt of what was taken too, because standard procedure says the FBI would leave behind a copy of the itemized receipt at the searched venue right after they are done executing the search warrant.

                                  Of course, Trump could also have released the warrant and the itemized receipt much earlier; way before AG Garland says the DOJ will move to do so.

                                  When does Melania get her panties back?

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  • MikM Mik

                                    alt text

                                    HoraceH Offline
                                    HoraceH Offline
                                    Horace
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #240

                                    @Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                    alt text

                                    alt text

                                    Lucy pushed her luck...

                                    Education is extremely important.

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    • JollyJ Offline
                                      JollyJ Offline
                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #241

                                      Meanwhile back at the FBI Building, Hunter's laptop has been on the property almost two years.

                                      TWO YEARS.

                                      Let that sink in.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                                      JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                                      • MikM Mik

                                        IF the Florida group gives its OK. My prediction is they will say no, and poor Merrick's hands will be tied.

                                        Poor guy. He tried to be open with us. Right? RIGHT?

                                        Catseye3C Offline
                                        Catseye3C Offline
                                        Catseye3
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #242

                                        @Mik
                                        Mik, thanks for explaining. I'm still trying to sort everything out.

                                        So Judge Reinhart, who signed the original search warrant, is now directing DOJ to respond to motions filed by Judicial Watch et al. to unseal the search warrant. Am I correct that the DOJ must comply with the order to respond, but retained the option to not unseal the warrant?

                                        The judge's order says, ""The response may be filed ex parte and under seal as necessary to avoid disclosing matters already under seal."

                                        So who sealed the warrant in the first place? The FBI? Then why can't DOJ just unseal it?

                                        DOJ cites "the intense public interest presented by a search of a residence of a former President,” as its reason for moving to unseal, when DOJ was actually responding to a court order to do so? So Garland lied about that?

                                        Then: "CNN's legal analyst Elie Honig described the announcement as a "remarkable and unusual move" because "we essentially saw Merrick Garland call Donald Trump's bluff."

                                        This meant what? That Trump made a big noise anticipating that DOJ would react by refusing to unseal the warrant, therefore inciting his people to accusations of railroading poor beleaguered Trump unfairly? Which Garland queered his pitch by acquiescing to the unsealing?

                                        But didn't Trump's supporters want DOJ to unseal the warrant? The entities which are seeking to unseal are conservatives, yes?

                                        So if the reveal is a nothingburger, why has Trump not turned them over? And if it is something substantive then Trump gambled and lost?

                                        If I've got all this right, I'm still confused.

                                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

                                        AxtremusA 1 Reply Last reply
                                        • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                          @Mik
                                          Mik, thanks for explaining. I'm still trying to sort everything out.

                                          So Judge Reinhart, who signed the original search warrant, is now directing DOJ to respond to motions filed by Judicial Watch et al. to unseal the search warrant. Am I correct that the DOJ must comply with the order to respond, but retained the option to not unseal the warrant?

                                          The judge's order says, ""The response may be filed ex parte and under seal as necessary to avoid disclosing matters already under seal."

                                          So who sealed the warrant in the first place? The FBI? Then why can't DOJ just unseal it?

                                          DOJ cites "the intense public interest presented by a search of a residence of a former President,” as its reason for moving to unseal, when DOJ was actually responding to a court order to do so? So Garland lied about that?

                                          Then: "CNN's legal analyst Elie Honig described the announcement as a "remarkable and unusual move" because "we essentially saw Merrick Garland call Donald Trump's bluff."

                                          This meant what? That Trump made a big noise anticipating that DOJ would react by refusing to unseal the warrant, therefore inciting his people to accusations of railroading poor beleaguered Trump unfairly? Which Garland queered his pitch by acquiescing to the unsealing?

                                          But didn't Trump's supporters want DOJ to unseal the warrant? The entities which are seeking to unseal are conservatives, yes?

                                          So if the reveal is a nothingburger, why has Trump not turned them over? And if it is something substantive then Trump gambled and lost?

                                          If I've got all this right, I'm still confused.

                                          AxtremusA Offline
                                          AxtremusA Offline
                                          Axtremus
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #243

                                          @Catseye3 , think back to Trump’s never ending delay to release his tax returns. Trump made multiple promises to release his tax returns, yet kept citing bogus rationale about not being able to release his tax returns as long as he is being audited by the IRS. Trump may try to replay the same trick with the search warrant now, having copies of the search warrant and the itemized list of what has been taken, having the power to release it himself, making noise about releasing it, but never do.

                                          It’s good that the DOJ is moving to release the search warrant and the itemized list of items taken. Let the sunshine in and let everything air out in the open.

                                          Catseye3C 1 Reply Last reply
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • Users
                                          • Groups