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  • HoraceH Horace

    Looking more and more like this will be a nothing burger in terms of severity of the offense. Which would play into a Trump 2024 campaign. Sigh.

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    jon-nyc
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    #189

    @Horace said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

    Looking more and more like this will be a nothing burger in terms of severity of the offense. Which would play into a Trump 2024 campaign. Sigh.

    Perhaps not in terms of severity of offense, given the law Trump signed into effect in 2018. But if this is just “Trump has documents” he’ll win the politics of it.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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    • HoraceH Horace

      Is it conceivable that Trump baited the FBI into raiding him by intentionally holding back some classified documents that nobody really cares about, in order to support his swamp victim narrative and a 2024 run?

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      #190

      @Horace said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

      Is it conceivable that Trump baited the FBI into raiding him by intentionally holding back some classified documents that nobody really cares about, in order to support his swamp victim narrative and a 2024 run?

      4-D Chinese Checkers…

      The Brad

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      • HoraceH Horace

        Is it conceivable that Trump baited the FBI into raiding him by intentionally holding back some classified documents that nobody really cares about, in order to support his swamp victim narrative and a 2024 run?

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        Doctor Phibes
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        #191

        @Horace said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

        Is it conceivable that Trump baited the FBI into raiding him by intentionally holding back some classified documents that nobody really cares about, in order to support his swamp victim narrative and a 2024 run?

        That would be as genius a move as Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

        I was only joking

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
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          #192

          I'm sick of the whole thing. Just let the public know what this was about.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Jolly
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            #193

            The political stupidity of the FBI radiates like a green glow. A nauseating green glow.

            I've read today where they did not want to raid Trump's house when he was there because of the optics and coordinated that with the Miami office.

            But what nitwit authorized a nighttime raid with 30 fucking FBI agents? The optics make the old Stazi look like they were half-assed doing things.

            Jesus, people! Go up to the front door in the light of day, knock like normal law enforcement does and show your warrant. Then, have four or five guys get out of the van and do what you came to do.

            Next big raid, I guess they'll have to parachute in or maybe just use a helicopter gunship.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • MikM Offline
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              Mik
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              #194

              As one who has had a search warrant executed upon my home, I can assure you daytime is sufficient.

              I'm also grateful that we were better at hiding things than they were at finding them.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Jolly
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                #195

                Bias?

                https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2022/08/10/you-wont-be-surprised-by-what-the-judge-who-approved-raid-on-mar-a-lago-said-abo-n2611533?utm_campaign=rightrailsticky3

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Jolly
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                  #196

                  Bongino weighs in...

                  https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/08/09/bongino_nobody_in_trumps_inner_circle_is_safe_you_woke_up_in_a_different_us_this_morning.html

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    Bias?

                    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2022/08/10/you-wont-be-surprised-by-what-the-judge-who-approved-raid-on-mar-a-lago-said-abo-n2611533?utm_campaign=rightrailsticky3

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                    @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                    Bias?

                    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2022/08/10/you-wont-be-surprised-by-what-the-judge-who-approved-raid-on-mar-a-lago-said-abo-n2611533?utm_campaign=rightrailsticky3

                    How shocking to find a 100% indoctrinated leftist in a high status position of power in America. I wonder how many boxes he'd check for belief in verifiably false narratives fed to him by leftist popular culture?

                    Never mind all that, I'm sure there are just as many Trump cultists in those same positions of power, who believe just as many objectively false things. Both sides are the same.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @Horace said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                      Is it conceivable that Trump baited the FBI into raiding him by intentionally holding back some classified documents that nobody really cares about, in order to support his swamp victim narrative and a 2024 run?

                      That would be as genius a move as Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

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                      Renauda
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                      #198

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                      @Horace said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                      Is it conceivable that Trump baited the FBI into raiding him by intentionally holding back some classified documents that nobody really cares about, in order to support his swamp victim narrative and a 2024 run?

                      That would be as genius a move as Putin's invasion of Ukraine.

                      Let’s find out if he hired Vladimir Vladimirovich as a consultant. Apparently they are not only geniuses but loyal friends. Both hold loyalty in similar high regard.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                        Bias?

                        https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2022/08/10/you-wont-be-surprised-by-what-the-judge-who-approved-raid-on-mar-a-lago-said-abo-n2611533?utm_campaign=rightrailsticky3

                        How shocking to find a 100% indoctrinated leftist in a high status position of power in America. I wonder how many boxes he'd check for belief in verifiably false narratives fed to him by leftist popular culture?

                        Never mind all that, I'm sure there are just as many Trump cultists in those same positions of power, who believe just as many objectively false things. Both sides are the same.

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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        #199

                        @Horace said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                        @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                        Bias?

                        https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2022/08/10/you-wont-be-surprised-by-what-the-judge-who-approved-raid-on-mar-a-lago-said-abo-n2611533?utm_campaign=rightrailsticky3

                        How shocking to find a 100% indoctrinated leftist in a high status position of power in America. I wonder how many boxes he'd check for belief in verifiably false narratives fed to him by leftist popular culture?

                        Never mind all that, I'm sure there are just as many Trump cultists in those same positions of power, who believe just as many objectively false things. Both sides are the same.

                        Well, the article is certainly completely unbiased. Thank God for a free press.

                        I was only joking

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                          Catseye3
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                          Bongino: "Well, you woke up in a different United States today."

                          We wake up in a different United States often, Dan. Practically every week. Ain't no thing. Keep your hair on.

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                            Jolly
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                            #201

                            He doesn't have much hair.

                            Does a nice rant, though.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • Catseye3C Catseye3

                              Bongino: "Well, you woke up in a different United States today."

                              We wake up in a different United States often, Dan. Practically every week. Ain't no thing. Keep your hair on.

                              JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
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                              #202

                              @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                              Bongino: "Well, you woke up in a different United States today."

                              We wake up in a different United States often, Dan. Practically every week. Ain't no thing. Keep your hair on.

                              Actually...Just saw on tv where Trafalgar had done some recent polling and they're seeing a trend with independents starting to break GOP. They said their polling data after the raid showed an acceleration of that break by about three points.

                              Not huge, but interesting.

                              Another interesting point was that their latest polling showed 80% of Americans now think we have a two-tiered justice system.

                              Now, that's not totally new, but the percentage seems quite large to me. Whether Left or Conservative, people are trusting the justice system less and less.

                              That is a new day in America...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Catseye3
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                                #203

                                I'm not quite where Mik is; not quite sick of it yet. If there's crime involved in a story I'm your front-row patootie and have been since I redd my first Nancy Drew. But I am entirely sick of the orchestrated shock and affront trotted out by the injured half whenever something like this happens. Democracy in peril, country to the dogs, banana republic, blah, blah, blah.

                                Does no one see the irony here? The breathless fury over the supposed LE violation against a man who imperiled this country far worse than 90% of the perils it has sustained in its entire history? And might be still? And might yet again? Old Mr. "Grab 'Em By the Pussy" wracked up DAILY violations against the American people and these chin tremblers sailed right on.

                                Even if the FBI was the evildoer the GOP are lining up so predictably to condemn -- which they probably aren't -- their "raid" on Mar-a-Lago was barely a peccadillo in comparison.

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #204

                                  Biased much? 😄😄

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Jolly
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                                    #205

                                    Far worse than 90% of our history?

                                    I'm sorry, but that's laughable.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                      I'm not quite where Mik is; not quite sick of it yet. If there's crime involved in a story I'm your front-row patootie and have been since I redd my first Nancy Drew. But I am entirely sick of the orchestrated shock and affront trotted out by the injured half whenever something like this happens. Democracy in peril, country to the dogs, banana republic, blah, blah, blah.

                                      Does no one see the irony here? The breathless fury over the supposed LE violation against a man who imperiled this country far worse than 90% of the perils it has sustained in its entire history? And might be still? And might yet again? Old Mr. "Grab 'Em By the Pussy" wracked up DAILY violations against the American people and these chin tremblers sailed right on.

                                      Even if the FBI was the evildoer the GOP are lining up so predictably to condemn -- which they probably aren't -- their "raid" on Mar-a-Lago was barely a peccadillo in comparison.

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                                      taiwan_girl
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                                      @Catseye3 LOL Yes, it is irony.

                                      From the republican side

                                      Jan 6 - "not a big deal. Just some folks out for sightseeing."

                                      Lawful search warrant for mar lago - "ILLEGAL!! Worst thing that ever happened to the US."

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                                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                        @Catseye3 LOL Yes, it is irony.

                                        From the republican side

                                        Jan 6 - "not a big deal. Just some folks out for sightseeing."

                                        Lawful search warrant for mar lago - "ILLEGAL!! Worst thing that ever happened to the US."

                                        HoraceH Offline
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                                        Horace
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                                        #207

                                        @taiwan_girl said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                        @Catseye3 LOL Yes, it is irony.

                                        From the republican side

                                        Jan 6 - "not a big deal. Just some folks out for sightseeing."

                                        No, it was definitely trespassing, and at times violent. A righteous mob doing idiotic things, as they will do.

                                        Lawful search warrant for mar lago - "ILLEGAL!! Worst thing that ever happened to the US."

                                        I am thinking this will turn out to be about as routine as raids get, for an essentially bureaucratic violation, which both parties, Trump and Justice, knew could not and would not be ignored.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                          @Catseye3 LOL Yes, it is irony.

                                          From the republican side

                                          Jan 6 - "not a big deal. Just some folks out for sightseeing."

                                          Lawful search warrant for mar lago - "ILLEGAL!! Worst thing that ever happened to the US."

                                          MikM Offline
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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #208

                                          @taiwan_girl said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                          @Catseye3 LOL Yes, it is irony.

                                          From the republican side

                                          Jan 6 - "not a big deal. Just some folks out for sightseeing."

                                          Lawful search warrant for mar lago - "ILLEGAL!! Worst thing that ever happened to the US."

                                          No one I know ever said either one of those things.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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