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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #163

    So much hate, so little time.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      jon-nyc
      wrote on last edited by
      #164

      Says the man who’s entire politics are motivated by grievance and revenge.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Says the man who’s entire politics are motivated by grievance and revenge.

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        Horace
        wrote on last edited by
        #165

        @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

        Says the man who’s entire politics are motivated by grievance and revenge.

        We should all be so lucky to have our hearts and public noises unambiguously left aligned, while relying, in our heads, on most of the conservative policies supported by the politicians we despise. So fortunate to be in such a no lose space.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
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          #166

          A weird thing happens to musca domestica larvae, they assume that being anti-Trump makes someone unambiguously lefty. Despite my many thousands of posts to the contrary.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            A weird thing happens to musca domestica larvae, they assume that being anti-Trump makes someone unambiguously lefty. Despite my many thousands of posts to the contrary.

            HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
            wrote on last edited by
            #167

            @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

            A weird thing happens to musca domestica larvae, they assume that being anti-Trump makes someone unambiguously lefty. Despite my many thousands of posts to the contrary.

            Is this where you attempt to gaslight people into believing you’re a confirmed centrist on national politics? While obviously being terrified of being associated with the right?

            Education is extremely important.

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            • jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nyc
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              #168

              How could I ever get away with that after so many years of carrying water for AOC and Bernie Sanders?

              You think I’d risk getting kicked out of the local BLM chapter just to impress you?

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                How could I ever get away with that after so many years of carrying water for AOC and Bernie Sanders?

                You think I’d risk getting kicked out of the local BLM chapter just to impress you?

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                Horace
                wrote on last edited by
                #169

                @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                How could I ever get away with that after so many years of carrying water for AOC and Bernie Sanders?

                You think I’d risk getting kicked out of the local BLM chapter just to impress you?

                Your emotes are homogenous in their valence. (That sentence was for you 89th).

                And you know emotes are how to establish social credibility.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by Jolly
                  #170

                  Revenge? Nah, I'd like to see a reckoning.

                  Some people are quite comfortable with a biased justice system, where some are favored and some are persecuted based on political affiliation. I am not.

                  Some people are comfortable with questionable elections, as long as their candidate wins or their hated candidate loses. I am not.

                  Some people are comfortable looking down their nose at normal Americans, who long to see their country returned to Reagan's vision of a shining city on a hill. I am not.

                  Some people are quite happy with bloated bills that preserve Wall Street tax breaks, while simultaneously unleashing a new ravaging horde of tax collectors on the poor and middle class. I am not.

                  Some people will support the election of a dementia patient to the most powerful position on the planet, if it slakes their thirst for political blood. I do not.

                  And if it takes introducing a catalyst in the soup of the Washington Swamp, to shake the foundations of the current banana republic, to try to corral inflation, secure the border, kill CRT in the schools and let the military get back to its job, rather than sensitivity training...Why, yes. I'm for that.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #171

                    If true, why were Trump's attorneys not permitted to watch the raid search? Why were they locked out of the building?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Improviso
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                      #172

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                      We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
                      Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #173

                        😅😅😅😅

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #174

                          Heard today that they are trying to reclassify the raid as an agricultural event.

                          The FBI spent hours engaged in planting...bugs, evidence, etc...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            Catseye3
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                            #175

                            Speaking of how, in the end, peoples' fundaments govern how they vote, which you weren't but I am, I just redd this from Mike Manson, which probably answers that as well as anything:

                            "You see, our rational brains are absolutely terrible when our emotional brains are firing on all cylinders. From an evolutionary standpoint, the emotional brain is too old and too important for our survival that our rational brains sometimes can’t even get their shoes on before our emotions have burned the damn house down."

                            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              Heard today that they are trying to reclassify the raid as an agricultural event.

                              The FBI spent hours engaged in planting...bugs, evidence, etc...

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                              #176

                              @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                              Heard today that they are trying to reclassify the raid as an agricultural event.
                              The FBI spent hours engaged in planting...bugs, evidence, etc...

                              Or slinging bullshit, depending on your persuasion.

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                              • JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #177

                                I'm an old country boy and I know bullshit when I see it.

                                Let us know how much you weigh, just in case you ever fall in a toilet. Would hate to dig out too much or too little.

                                Help us to help you...

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  I'm an old country boy and I know bullshit when I see it.

                                  Let us know how much you weigh, just in case you ever fall in a toilet. Would hate to dig out too much or too little.

                                  Help us to help you...

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                                  Catseye3
                                  wrote on last edited by Catseye3
                                  #178

                                  @Jolly

                                  WTF are you talking about? I meant no insult. I was speaking generally.

                                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                  • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                    Speaking of how, in the end, peoples' fundaments govern how they vote, which you weren't but I am, I just redd this from Mike Manson, which probably answers that as well as anything:

                                    "You see, our rational brains are absolutely terrible when our emotional brains are firing on all cylinders. From an evolutionary standpoint, the emotional brain is too old and too important for our survival that our rational brains sometimes can’t even get their shoes on before our emotions have burned the damn house down."

                                    HoraceH Offline
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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #179

                                    @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                    Speaking of how, in the end, peoples' fundaments govern how they vote, which you weren't but I am, I just redd this from Mike Manson, which probably answers that as well as anything:

                                    "You see, our rational brains are absolutely terrible when our emotional brains are firing on all cylinders. From an evolutionary standpoint, the emotional brain is too old and too important for our survival that our rational brains sometimes can’t even get their shoes on before our emotions have burned the damn house down."

                                    Well circa 100% of the political messaging we’re exposed to is designed to maximize our emotional response. So I guess this figures. The anti Trump messaging is entirely about maximizing the fear and disgust reactions. This works well.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Axtremus
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                                      #180

                                      While in office, Trump signed into law some provisions that stiffen the penalties for mishandling classified information.

                                      https://www.businessinsider.nl/as-president-trump-approved-a-law-increasing-penalties-for-mishandling-classified-info-it-could-come-back-to-bite-him/

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                                        Catseye3
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                                        #181

                                        From Yahoo: https://news.yahoo.com/understanding-the-fb-is-raid-on-trumps-mar-a-lago-home-003031665.html

                                        "Tracy Walder, a former FBI special agent and CIA operative, laughed when asked whether obtaining a search warrant in an investigation into an ordinary American was as simple as just dialing up a judge to railroad a personal enemy.

                                        "Walder noted that the search warrant for Mar-a-Lago was executed by the Counterintelligence and Export Control Section of the Department of Justice. “I was on that squad at the FBI,” Walder said. “I will never forget when I had to go and get a search warrant. My supervisor told me, ‘If you don't get it, don’t bother coming back to the office. Turn in your badge, you're done.’ You need an overabundance of information to obtain one to a point that — I'll be frank — is annoying. I could have a guy on the phone admitting to a crime, and that wouldn’t necessarily be sufficient.”

                                        "In Trump’s case, Walder said, the very fact that the FBI felt compelled to seek out a warrant underscores the gravity of what it has determined so far. Unlike wiretaps or surreptitious entries, search warrants become public information, especially when they target public figures; the inevitable fallout from targeting a public figure of this magnitude will have been considered extremely carefully at all levels of law enforcement involved."

                                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                        • Catseye3C Catseye3

                                          From Yahoo: https://news.yahoo.com/understanding-the-fb-is-raid-on-trumps-mar-a-lago-home-003031665.html

                                          "Tracy Walder, a former FBI special agent and CIA operative, laughed when asked whether obtaining a search warrant in an investigation into an ordinary American was as simple as just dialing up a judge to railroad a personal enemy.

                                          "Walder noted that the search warrant for Mar-a-Lago was executed by the Counterintelligence and Export Control Section of the Department of Justice. “I was on that squad at the FBI,” Walder said. “I will never forget when I had to go and get a search warrant. My supervisor told me, ‘If you don't get it, don’t bother coming back to the office. Turn in your badge, you're done.’ You need an overabundance of information to obtain one to a point that — I'll be frank — is annoying. I could have a guy on the phone admitting to a crime, and that wouldn’t necessarily be sufficient.”

                                          "In Trump’s case, Walder said, the very fact that the FBI felt compelled to seek out a warrant underscores the gravity of what it has determined so far. Unlike wiretaps or surreptitious entries, search warrants become public information, especially when they target public figures; the inevitable fallout from targeting a public figure of this magnitude will have been considered extremely carefully at all levels of law enforcement involved."

                                          HoraceH Offline
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                                          #182

                                          @Catseye3 said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                          From Yahoo: https://news.yahoo.com/understanding-the-fb-is-raid-on-trumps-mar-a-lago-home-003031665.html

                                          "Tracy Walder, a former FBI special agent and CIA operative, laughed when asked whether obtaining a search warrant in an investigation into an ordinary American was as simple as just dialing up a judge to railroad a personal enemy.

                                          "Walder noted that the search warrant for Mar-a-Lago was executed by the Counterintelligence and Export Control Section of the Department of Justice. “I was on that squad at the FBI,” Walder said. “I will never forget when I had to go and get a search warrant. My supervisor told me, ‘If you don't get it, don’t bother coming back to the office. Turn in your badge, you're done.’ You need an overabundance of information to obtain one to a point that — I'll be frank — is annoying. I could have a guy on the phone admitting to a crime, and that wouldn’t necessarily be sufficient.”

                                          "In Trump’s case, Walder said, the very fact that the FBI felt compelled to seek out a warrant underscores the gravity of what it has determined so far. Unlike wiretaps or surreptitious entries, search warrants become public information, especially when they target public figures; the inevitable fallout from targeting a public figure of this magnitude will have been considered extremely carefully at all levels of law enforcement involved."

                                          Another person who will be super embarrassed if this turns out to be an overdue library book from the national archives.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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