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Most and least racist countries

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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    Not sure how accurate it is, but interesting nonetheless.

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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325502/Map-shows-worlds-racist-countries-answers-surprise-you.html?fbclid=IwAR2s7THXAusV3quS-BGNjQkX0Sobrsz5o4xPdoJOthNBfgbQ0rytiUMFDvs

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      India FTW!

      That doesn’t sound wrong to me. There was an explicit racial (read: caste) stratification of society that underpinned the social order until recently.

      It’s still there, just not as explicit.

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        I hate everybody equally.

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        • X xenon

          India FTW!

          That doesn’t sound wrong to me. There was an explicit racial (read: caste) stratification of society that underpinned the social order until recently.

          It’s still there, just not as explicit.

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          @xenon said in Most and least racist countries:

          India FTW!

          That doesn’t sound wrong to me. There was an explicit racial (read: caste) stratification of society that underpinned the social order until recently.

          It’s still there, just not as explicit.

          Yeah, but that was not really racial was it? Unless there is something more to the caste system than I am aware of.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            @xenon said in Most and least racist countries:

            India FTW!

            That doesn’t sound wrong to me. There was an explicit racial (read: caste) stratification of society that underpinned the social order until recently.

            It’s still there, just not as explicit.

            Yeah, but that was not really racial was it? Unless there is something more to the caste system than I am aware of.

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            @Mik oh - from the perspective of Indians there is a WORLD of difference - physically - between a high and a low caste person.

            The word for the low classes is literally “untouchable”. Taking a bath can’t change that.

            In tradition Hindu philosophy, you can’t even achieve salvation if you’re not at the top of the heap. The best you can hope for is being born into a higher caste.

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            • MikM Offline
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              Interesting. I'm sure at some point DNA testing has been done on this. It's too easy not to.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Yup. It too is very interesting history.

                https://www.livescience.com/38751-genetic-study-reveals-caste-system-origins.html

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  Interesting. I'm sure at some point DNA testing has been done on this. It's too easy not to.

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                  xenon
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                  @Mik if you zoom out the genetic difference between blacks and whites are not that great - from a biological perspective.

                  Similarly the genetic difference between high castes and low castes are not going to be great. But they generally do look a little different (and those differences are much more apparent to the people within those groups).

                  In terms of the dynamics between castes - it’s not that different than what segregated America looked like.

                  The thing is. Just like the role of the brown/yellow person is hard to fit into the narrative of American racism - white people just wouldn’t be a part of the racial story in India.

                  But the story isn’t that different.

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                    If asked, I would have answered 'Daily Mail readers'.

                    I was only joking

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                      @Mik if you zoom out the genetic difference between blacks and whites are not that great - from a biological perspective.

                      Similarly the genetic difference between high castes and low castes are not going to be great. But they generally do look a little different (and those differences are much more apparent to the people within those groups).

                      In terms of the dynamics between castes - it’s not that different than what segregated America looked like.

                      The thing is. Just like the role of the brown/yellow person is hard to fit into the narrative of American racism - white people just wouldn’t be a part of the racial story in India.

                      But the story isn’t that different.

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                      Mik
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                      @xenon I think that article points out that there are in fact genetic differences they can trace, but there is very common mingling as well. That would support the racial issue I was looking at. I suspect there is not all that much genetic difference between Japanese , Korean and Indochinese people either, but there are commonly very distinct differences in appearance between them that I am sure they are acutely aware of.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        This is a measure of racism, however it's discounted by the level of taboo an individual country has around admitting to it, even to yourself.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          Which also makes India's score even funnier.

                          Please love yourself.

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