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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #623

    The UK Ministry of Defense Defence today:

    Screen Shot 2022-07-12 at 9.36.14 AM.png

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      @Renauda I've read that the HIMARS are making a huge difference. They fire six missiles in rapid succession, and can be moved to another location in two minutes. Difficult to find.

      Also, they are tremendously accurate. Using satellite guidance, they can land the missiles within meters of the target.

      JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #624

      @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

      @Renauda I've read that the HIMARS are making a huge difference. They fire six missiles in rapid succession, and can be moved to another location in two minutes. Difficult to find.

      Also, they are tremendously accurate. Using satellite guidance, they can land the missiles within meters of the target.

      Depending upon what munitions we're letting them have, the system has a range of 190 miles.

      And in other news, the Marines fired the system last year off of a moving ship and hit a target on-shore. Precisely. That's mind-boggling.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #625

        Found it:

        https://wartranslated.com/russian-bloggers-on-himars-missile-strikes/

        The Russians are unhappy:

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • RenaudaR Offline
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          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by
          #626

          Elbows up!

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #627

            Russian Arty...

            https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/07/the-secrets-of-russias-artillery-war-in-ukraine/

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by Renauda
              #628

              More on HIMARS effectiveness:

              https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/russian-ground-attacks-halted-across-front-kyivs-precision-rocket-strikes-hit-luhansk-ammo-depot.html

              Elbows up!

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              • MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
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                #629

                20 ammo depots since July 1. I bet those go up with a big bang.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  20 ammo depots since July 1. I bet those go up with a big bang.

                  RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #630

                  @Mik

                  Link to video

                  Elbows up!

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #631

                    Russia hunts Ukraine’s US-made HIMARS

                    A Ukrainian soldier fires a rocket-propelled grenade (RPG) launcher during a training exercise in Donbas region, Ukraine. Photo: Reuters
                    A Ukrainian soldier fires a rocket-propelled grenade (RPG) launcher during a training exercise in Donbas region, Ukraine. Photo: Reuters
                    Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu has ordered generals to prioritise destroying Ukraine’s long-range missile and artillery weapons after Western-supplied weapons were used to strike Russian supply lines.
                    Nearly five months since President Vladimir Putin ordered the February 24 invasion of Ukraine, Russian forces are grinding through the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine and now occupy around a fifth of the country.
                    Shoigu, one of Putin’s closest allies, inspected the Vostok group which is fighting in Ukraine, the defence ministry said.
                    Shoigu “instructed the commander to give priority to the enemy’s long-range missile and artillery weapons,” the defence ministry said.
                    The ministry said the weapons were being used to shell residential areas of Russian-controlled Donbas and to deliberately set fire to wheat fields and grain storage silos.
                    Ukraine says it has carried out a string of successful strikes on 30 Russian logistics and ammunitions hubs, using several multiple launch rocket systems recently supplied by the West.

                    Yeah...

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • MikM Away
                      MikM Away
                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #632

                      Like the commanders didn't already know to do that? Boy, they are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #633

                        Something you might find interesting...

                        Link to video

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • MikM Away
                          MikM Away
                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #634

                          Very interesting indeed.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • MikM Mik

                            Very interesting indeed.

                            George KG Offline
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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #635

                            @Mik said in The Ukraine war thread:

                            Very interesting indeed.

                            Really.

                            However, Mr. Weapon Analyzer Man, a couple of pro tips:

                            1. Get out of the bedroom.
                            2. Lose the bike.
                            3. Invest in a comb.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #636

                              Kind of skipped through the video, but did learn more than I knew about radar identification!

                              @George-K I agree. 5555 Invest in a green screen. Even I have one of those and do not do any videos.

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #637

                                Oopsie.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  Oopsie.

                                  LuFins DadL Offline
                                  LuFins DadL Offline
                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #638

                                  @George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:

                                  Oopsie.

                                  Well, when you’re manning anti aircraft emplacements with guys that were in prison last week, shit happens.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • MikM Away
                                    MikM Away
                                    Mik
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #639

                                    The Chechens are not too keen on Putin either.

                                    We know where the Russians are

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #640

                                      Reckon the CIA is shaking that bag?

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • MikM Away
                                        MikM Away
                                        Mik
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #641

                                        It’s interesting, because I think if there was anyone capable of taking Putin out of office he’d already be gone.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • George KG Offline
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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #642

                                          Not sure I buy all this, but an interesting take.

                                          =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

                                          Ukraine Is Winning

                                          After the Russian military failed to take Kyiv in the opening weeks of their full-scale invasion of Ukraine and refocused, at least for now, on eastern Ukraine, they have made modest gains, while reports of Ukrainian casualties and alleged poor morale proliferated. Some even concluded that the Russians finally had momentum. Ten weeks later, it is again obvious that momentum favors the Ukrainians—and the Russians’ desperate attempts to mitigate the problem will only exacerbate it.

                                          Case in point: British intelligence believes that Russia has lost over 50,000 men, more than a quarter of its original invading force, and the Russian military (or, more precisely, its mercenaries, the Wagner Group) is reportedly enlisting prisoners for reinforcement. This is not an original gambit, which is why the Russian high command should know that it will backfire...

                                          If Putin were willing to mobilize the Russian economy fully, Russia could conquer Ukraine, at least on paper. But to do so would require acknowledging that he has started a “war,” a word he continues to imprison people for using, instead of “special military operation,” which is a polite little euphemism for something going on a very long way away and don’t you worry about it. But this technical euphemism has real world effects. A declaration of war, under Russian law, would unleash enormous resources, from people (non-convicts) subject to conscription to industrial mobilization. Those resources could be sufficient to win the war. But unlocking those assets would require the government to come clean about the scale of the war. A legal declaration of war would also give extraordinary wartime power to the security ministries in Russia, which could be used against Putin in a coup. Unlike Volodymyr, Vladimir is not too confident about where he stands domestically. He’s signaling that, if he doesn’t end this war soon, the war will end him. So, at least politically speaking, time is not on his side.

                                          Which brings us to the last Ukrainian advantage: judgment. Rushed and panicked leaders, like anyone else, make mistakes. Out of fear, desperation, or impatience, they make bad decisions. After the disaster in Russia, a desperate Napoleon made every wrong decision, violating his own military maxims. In a crunch and fearing he’d lose his moment, Adolf Hitler invaded the Soviet Union too early. Even cruel tyrants are still human, made of flesh and blood, susceptible to all human flaws like the rest of us, prone to bad judgment under duress and stress. If it is true that Putin is under treatment for cancer and has survived an assassination attempt, then how much energy and focus must he have to focus on turning around a military calamity? Even if he is healthy, Putin turns 70 this October and lacks the physical stamina of his 44-year-old Ukrainian counterpart to be a wartime leader the Russian military needs.

                                          President Zelensky has pledged that his country will fight until the full territorial integrity of Ukraine is restored. Getting Crimea back might be too ambitious. But as for the rest, why not? Everything is in his favor.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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