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A great way to make policy

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    George K
    wrote on 30 Jun 2022, 11:50 last edited by
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    Data?
    Numbers?
    Who needs 'em?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Mik
      wrote on 30 Jun 2022, 12:36 last edited by
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      What is with NY that they keep electing these deeply flawed characters?

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        Catseye3
        wrote on 30 Jun 2022, 12:41 last edited by Catseye3
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        I agree the governor's response is mushy and evasive, but I don't really see the point of the question. Why is that important? Or relevant, even?

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          30 Jun 2022, 12:41

          I agree the governor's response is mushy and evasive, but I don't really see the point of the question. Why is that important? Or relevant, even?

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          Jolly
          wrote on 30 Jun 2022, 12:44 last edited by
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          @Catseye3 said in A great way to make policy:

          I agree the governor's response is mushy and evasive, but I don't really see the point of the question. Why is that important? Or relevant, even?

          Has to do with the recent SCOTUS ruling on shall issue.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • J Jolly
            30 Jun 2022, 12:44

            @Catseye3 said in A great way to make policy:

            I agree the governor's response is mushy and evasive, but I don't really see the point of the question. Why is that important? Or relevant, even?

            Has to do with the recent SCOTUS ruling on shall issue.

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            Catseye3
            wrote on 30 Jun 2022, 12:45 last edited by
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            @Jolly said in A great way to make policy:

            Has to do with the recent SCOTUS ruling on shall issue.

            And the badguy on the street cares about this how?

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              Mik
              wrote on 30 Jun 2022, 13:00 last edited by
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              He doesn't. And he doesn't have a concealed carry permit either. That's the point - it isn't legal gun owners running around murdering and robbing.

              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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              • M Mik
                30 Jun 2022, 13:00

                He doesn't. And he doesn't have a concealed carry permit either. That's the point - it isn't legal gun owners running around murdering and robbing.

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                Catseye3
                wrote on 30 Jun 2022, 13:02 last edited by
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                @Mik We already know this. How is belaboring the obvious going to further a solution?

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 30 Jun 2022, 13:17 last edited by Mik
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                  Because it forces the pol in question to reveal the depth of her fecklessness. "Facts be damned, my tribe supports this".

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                  • M Mik
                    30 Jun 2022, 13:17

                    Because it forces the pol in question to reveal the depth of her fecklessness. "Facts be damned, my tribe supports this".

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                    Catseye3
                    wrote on 30 Jun 2022, 13:28 last edited by
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                    @Mik Fine. Business as usual. "Your tribe is wrong and mine is right," and the badguys go their merry way.

                    Bah!

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      Mik
                      wrote on 30 Jun 2022, 13:55 last edited by
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                      You cannot reduce crime by disarming the law abiding. She herself says she doesn't need any data on that to make a decision.

                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                      • M Mik
                        30 Jun 2022, 13:55

                        You cannot reduce crime by disarming the law abiding. She herself says she doesn't need any data on that to make a decision.

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                        Catseye3
                        wrote on 30 Jun 2022, 14:00 last edited by
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                        @Mik TOTALLY agree. Harry Brown used to say that if you take away guns from law-abiding people then only the unlawful will have guns.

                        My point was to how pols indulge in their endless palavering during quote-unquote legislative proceedings about stuff that should be wrangled off site, if you will.

                        But I get your point, that the questioner was trying to force the governor to concede a point. Which, yeah, good luck with that.

                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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