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US Senate Gun Legislation Agreement

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @George-K said in US Senate Gun Legislation Agreement:

    From the CNN article:

    "What lawmakers left out
    Expanded background checks

    Notably, the agreement doesn’t include a provision that would expand background checks for all firearm sales or transfers in the country. Currently, background checks are not required for gun sales and transfers by unlicensed and private sellers.

    Democrats have long supported such a requirement, and last year the House passed gun legislation that would expand background checks on all commercial gun sales, marking the first congressional move on significant gun control since Democrats won the White House and the majority in both chambers of Congress.

    Assault weapons ban

    Also left out is a federal ban on military-style assault weapons, another measure Democrats have been pushing in recent years, citing mass shootings that have involved such weapons.

    Higher minimum age of purchase

    Additionally, the agreement doesn’t include a change to the age at which a person needs to be to purchase an assault-style weapon. Democrats, including West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin, the chamber’s most conservative Democrat, have said the age to purchase assault weapons must be raised from 18 to 21.

    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

    What, exactly is "military-style assault weapons?" Wasn't that ban on scary-looking guns enacted in 1994 with zero effect on gun deaths?

    I have no problem with many of the other provisions (and I say that as someone who owns zero firearms). But, as I alluded in another thread, pandering is easy, governing is hard.

    You can't regulate individual-to-individual sales. It's impossible. You can enforce laws such as no felon having a firearm in his possession (if you catch him) or other laws.

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    LuFins Dad
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    #17

    @Jolly said in US Senate Gun Legislation Agreement:

    You can't regulate individual-to-individual sales. It's impossible. You can enforce laws such as no felon having a firearm in his possession (if you catch him) or other laws.

    Sure you can. It’s long past time for gun owners to be licensed. That solves ALOT of the background check problems. Instead of requiring the seller to run background checks, that’s handled by the state game and wildlife department. That way, if I’m selling you my .38 that I don’t need anymore, I don’t need to run a background check. I take a scan of your license and register the sale on the state site… Easier than privately selling a car…

    The Brad

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      @Jolly said in US Senate Gun Legislation Agreement:

      You can't regulate individual-to-individual sales. It's impossible. You can enforce laws such as no felon having a firearm in his possession (if you catch him) or other laws.

      Sure you can. It’s long past time for gun owners to be licensed. That solves ALOT of the background check problems. Instead of requiring the seller to run background checks, that’s handled by the state game and wildlife department. That way, if I’m selling you my .38 that I don’t need anymore, I don’t need to run a background check. I take a scan of your license and register the sale on the state site… Easier than privately selling a car…

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      Copper
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      #18

      @LuFins-Dad said in US Senate Gun Legislation Agreement:

      It’s long past time for gun owners to be licensed.

      That sounds like infringement to me.

      Arms are not a cars.

      Arms are enshrined, they have a special place in our country. And they have served us well.

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      • CopperC Copper

        @LuFins-Dad said in US Senate Gun Legislation Agreement:

        It’s long past time for gun owners to be licensed.

        That sounds like infringement to me.

        Arms are not a cars.

        Arms are enshrined, they have a special place in our country. And they have served us well.

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        Catseye3
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        #19

        @Copper said in US Senate Gun Legislation Agreement:

        And they have served us well.

        Sometimes, sometimes not.

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          @Jolly said in US Senate Gun Legislation Agreement:

          You can't regulate individual-to-individual sales. It's impossible. You can enforce laws such as no felon having a firearm in his possession (if you catch him) or other laws.

          Sure you can. It’s long past time for gun owners to be licensed. That solves ALOT of the background check problems. Instead of requiring the seller to run background checks, that’s handled by the state game and wildlife department. That way, if I’m selling you my .38 that I don’t need anymore, I don’t need to run a background check. I take a scan of your license and register the sale on the state site… Easier than privately selling a car…

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          Jolly
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          #20

          @LuFins-Dad said in US Senate Gun Legislation Agreement:

          @Jolly said in US Senate Gun Legislation Agreement:

          You can't regulate individual-to-individual sales. It's impossible. You can enforce laws such as no felon having a firearm in his possession (if you catch him) or other laws.

          Sure you can. It’s long past time for gun owners to be licensed. That solves ALOT of the background check problems. Instead of requiring the seller to run background checks, that’s handled by the state game and wildlife department. That way, if I’m selling you my .38 that I don’t need anymore, I don’t need to run a background check. I take a scan of your license and register the sale on the state site… Easier than privately selling a car…

          Licensing is the first step to confiscation.

          No go. Period.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @LuFins-Dad said in US Senate Gun Legislation Agreement:

            @Jolly said in US Senate Gun Legislation Agreement:

            You can't regulate individual-to-individual sales. It's impossible. You can enforce laws such as no felon having a firearm in his possession (if you catch him) or other laws.

            Sure you can. It’s long past time for gun owners to be licensed. That solves ALOT of the background check problems. Instead of requiring the seller to run background checks, that’s handled by the state game and wildlife department. That way, if I’m selling you my .38 that I don’t need anymore, I don’t need to run a background check. I take a scan of your license and register the sale on the state site… Easier than privately selling a car…

            Licensing is the first step to confiscation.

            No go. Period.

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            taiwan_girl
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            #21

            @Jolly said in US Senate Gun Legislation Agreement:

            @LuFins-Dad said in US Senate Gun Legislation Agreement:

            @Jolly said in US Senate Gun Legislation Agreement:

            You can't regulate individual-to-individual sales. It's impossible. You can enforce laws such as no felon having a firearm in his possession (if you catch him) or other laws.

            Sure you can. It’s long past time for gun owners to be licensed. That solves ALOT of the background check problems. Instead of requiring the seller to run background checks, that’s handled by the state game and wildlife department. That way, if I’m selling you my .38 that I don’t need anymore, I don’t need to run a background check. I take a scan of your license and register the sale on the state site… Easier than privately selling a car…

            Licensing is the first step to confiscation.

            No go. Period.

            Sorry. That doesn't seem to make sense.

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              Jolly
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              #22

              Australia.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • LarryL Offline
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                Larry
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                #23

                Legal gun owners have around 300 million guns and probably a trillion rounds of ammo. If legal gun owners were the problem...... you'd know it.

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  @Jolly said in US Senate Gun Legislation Agreement:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in US Senate Gun Legislation Agreement:

                  @Jolly said in US Senate Gun Legislation Agreement:

                  You can't regulate individual-to-individual sales. It's impossible. You can enforce laws such as no felon having a firearm in his possession (if you catch him) or other laws.

                  Sure you can. It’s long past time for gun owners to be licensed. That solves ALOT of the background check problems. Instead of requiring the seller to run background checks, that’s handled by the state game and wildlife department. That way, if I’m selling you my .38 that I don’t need anymore, I don’t need to run a background check. I take a scan of your license and register the sale on the state site… Easier than privately selling a car…

                  Licensing is the first step to confiscation.

                  No go. Period.

                  Sorry. That doesn't seem to make sense.

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                  Larry
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #24

                  @taiwan_girl said in US Senate Gun Legislation Agreement:

                  @Jolly said in US Senate Gun Legislation Agreement:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in US Senate Gun Legislation Agreement:

                  @Jolly said in US Senate Gun Legislation Agreement:

                  You can't regulate individual-to-individual sales. It's impossible. You can enforce laws such as no felon having a firearm in his possession (if you catch him) or other laws.

                  Sure you can. It’s long past time for gun owners to be licensed. That solves ALOT of the background check problems. Instead of requiring the seller to run background checks, that’s handled by the state game and wildlife department. That way, if I’m selling you my .38 that I don’t need anymore, I don’t need to run a background check. I take a scan of your license and register the sale on the state site… Easier than privately selling a car…

                  Licensing is the first step to confiscation.

                  No go. Period.

                  Sorry. That doesn't seem to make sense.

                  That's because you're a brainwashed left winger.

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                  • LarryL Offline
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                    Larry
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                    #25

                    Your grandfather didn't sleep in a foxhole in a far away land clutching a picture of your grandmother so you limp dick leftists could take away our right to own guns.

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                      Copper
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                      #26

                      Will I still be able to buy one of these?

                      50 or more at once!

                      28130411-6787-4463-9a74-972dd8b22dbd-image.png

                      Link to video

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #27

                        Only if it's a muzzleloader.

                        I have a friend that makes cannons and mortars, if you'd like one.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          Jolly
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                          BTW, that punt gun is Mickey Mouse. I knew some coonasses down near Dulac, that homemade a cannon out of three-inch Schedule 80 pipe wrapped in piano wire, with the wire silver soldered. They'd load that sucker with Pyrodex and any bits of metal they could find...Busted up pieces of old cast-iron stoves, roofing tacks, small bolts, etc.

                          The cannon was tied down to a fourteen foot bateaux. To point the gun, you pointed the boat. You only got one shot, so you took it before daylight while the ducks were still rafting out on the water. All that metal would land among them and skip.

                          You might kill five or six dozen a shot.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            Copper
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #29

                            Genius

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #30

                              Some of them boys ain't out there for sport, they're out there for groceries.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • CopperC Copper

                                Will I still be able to buy one of these?

                                50 or more at once!

                                28130411-6787-4463-9a74-972dd8b22dbd-image.png

                                Link to video

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                                Nunatax
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #31

                                @Copper said in US Senate Gun Legislation Agreement:

                                Will I still be able to buy one of these?

                                50 or more at once!

                                28130411-6787-4463-9a74-972dd8b22dbd-image.png

                                Link to video

                                Holy cow indeed! That recoil must hurt like hell…

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