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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by George K
    #1

    Lawyer up, kids.

    And pass the popcorn.

    Supreme Court officials are escalating their search for the source of the leaked draft opinion that would overturn Roe v. Wade, taking steps to require law clerks to provide cell phone records and sign affidavits, three sources with knowledge of the efforts have told CNN.

    Some clerks are apparently so alarmed over the moves, particularly the sudden requests for private cell data, that they have begun exploring whether to hire outside counsel.

    The court’s moves are unprecedented and the most striking development to date in the investigation into who might have provided Politico with the draft opinion it published on May 2. The probe has intensified the already high tensions at the Supreme Court, where the conservative majority is poised to roll back a half-century of abortion rights and privacy protections.

    Chief Justice John Roberts met with law clerks as a group after the breach, CNN has learned, but it is not known whether any systematic individual interviews have occurred.

    Lawyers outside the court who have become aware of the new inquiries related to cell phone details warn of potential intrusiveness on clerks’ personal activities, irrespective of any disclosure to the news media, and say they may feel the need to obtain independent counsel.

    “That’s what similarly situated individuals would do in virtually any other government investigation,” said one appellate lawyer with experience in investigations and knowledge of the new demands on law clerks. “It would be hypocritical for the Supreme Court to prevent its own employees from taking advantage of that fundamental legal protection.”

    Sources familiar with efforts underway say the exact language of the affidavits or the intended scope of that cell phone search – content or time period covered – is not yet clear.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      Lawyer up, kids.

      And pass the popcorn.

      Supreme Court officials are escalating their search for the source of the leaked draft opinion that would overturn Roe v. Wade, taking steps to require law clerks to provide cell phone records and sign affidavits, three sources with knowledge of the efforts have told CNN.

      Some clerks are apparently so alarmed over the moves, particularly the sudden requests for private cell data, that they have begun exploring whether to hire outside counsel.

      The court’s moves are unprecedented and the most striking development to date in the investigation into who might have provided Politico with the draft opinion it published on May 2. The probe has intensified the already high tensions at the Supreme Court, where the conservative majority is poised to roll back a half-century of abortion rights and privacy protections.

      Chief Justice John Roberts met with law clerks as a group after the breach, CNN has learned, but it is not known whether any systematic individual interviews have occurred.

      Lawyers outside the court who have become aware of the new inquiries related to cell phone details warn of potential intrusiveness on clerks’ personal activities, irrespective of any disclosure to the news media, and say they may feel the need to obtain independent counsel.

      “That’s what similarly situated individuals would do in virtually any other government investigation,” said one appellate lawyer with experience in investigations and knowledge of the new demands on law clerks. “It would be hypocritical for the Supreme Court to prevent its own employees from taking advantage of that fundamental legal protection.”

      Sources familiar with efforts underway say the exact language of the affidavits or the intended scope of that cell phone search – content or time period covered – is not yet clear.

      HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      #2

      My cell phone records, my choice.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • CopperC Offline
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        #3

        How many people could have initiated the leak?

        Is it a few or a few dozen or a few hundred?

        I'd be surprised if one or more of the justices didn't have a very strong suspicion of who is the culprit.

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
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          #4

          I’ve read approximately 75 people could have had access within the court itself. Add to that significant others, etc.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • George KG George K

            Lawyer up, kids.

            And pass the popcorn.

            Supreme Court officials are escalating their search for the source of the leaked draft opinion that would overturn Roe v. Wade, taking steps to require law clerks to provide cell phone records and sign affidavits, three sources with knowledge of the efforts have told CNN.

            Some clerks are apparently so alarmed over the moves, particularly the sudden requests for private cell data, that they have begun exploring whether to hire outside counsel.

            The court’s moves are unprecedented and the most striking development to date in the investigation into who might have provided Politico with the draft opinion it published on May 2. The probe has intensified the already high tensions at the Supreme Court, where the conservative majority is poised to roll back a half-century of abortion rights and privacy protections.

            Chief Justice John Roberts met with law clerks as a group after the breach, CNN has learned, but it is not known whether any systematic individual interviews have occurred.

            Lawyers outside the court who have become aware of the new inquiries related to cell phone details warn of potential intrusiveness on clerks’ personal activities, irrespective of any disclosure to the news media, and say they may feel the need to obtain independent counsel.

            “That’s what similarly situated individuals would do in virtually any other government investigation,” said one appellate lawyer with experience in investigations and knowledge of the new demands on law clerks. “It would be hypocritical for the Supreme Court to prevent its own employees from taking advantage of that fundamental legal protection.”

            Sources familiar with efforts underway say the exact language of the affidavits or the intended scope of that cell phone search – content or time period covered – is not yet clear.

            JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            @George-K said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

            Lawyer up, kids.

            And pass the popcorn.

            Supreme Court officials are escalating their search for the source of the leaked draft opinion that would overturn Roe v. Wade, taking steps to require law clerks to provide cell phone records and sign affidavits, three sources with knowledge of the efforts have told CNN.

            Some clerks are apparently so alarmed over the moves, particularly the sudden requests for private cell data, that they have begun exploring whether to hire outside counsel.

            The court’s moves are unprecedented and the most striking development to date in the investigation into who might have provided Politico with the draft opinion it published on May 2. The probe has intensified the already high tensions at the Supreme Court, where the conservative majority is poised to roll back a half-century of abortion rights and privacy protections.

            Chief Justice John Roberts met with law clerks as a group after the breach, CNN has learned, but it is not known whether any systematic individual interviews have occurred.

            Lawyers outside the court who have become aware of the new inquiries related to cell phone details warn of potential intrusiveness on clerks’ personal activities, irrespective of any disclosure to the news media, and say they may feel the need to obtain independent counsel.

            “That’s what similarly situated individuals would do in virtually any other government investigation,” said one appellate lawyer with experience in investigations and knowledge of the new demands on law clerks. “It would be hypocritical for the Supreme Court to prevent its own employees from taking advantage of that fundamental legal protection.”

            Sources familiar with efforts underway say the exact language of the affidavits or the intended scope of that cell phone search – content or time period covered – is not yet clear.

            The Feds seem to have no trouble financially bankrupting whomever they wish. What's a few more law clerks on the pile?

            I think Roberts is going to send a message that sticks. A crucified clerk.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              I’ve read approximately 75 people could have had access within the court itself. Add to that significant others, etc.

              HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
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              #6

              @jon-nyc said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

              I’ve read approximately 75 people could have had access within the court itself. Add to that significant others, etc.

              I don't see the point of adding 'significant others' to the circle of possible perpetrators. The SO would not be the perpetrator of the leak. The leak would have occurred when the SO was shown the document.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @George-K said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                Lawyer up, kids.

                And pass the popcorn.

                Supreme Court officials are escalating their search for the source of the leaked draft opinion that would overturn Roe v. Wade, taking steps to require law clerks to provide cell phone records and sign affidavits, three sources with knowledge of the efforts have told CNN.

                Some clerks are apparently so alarmed over the moves, particularly the sudden requests for private cell data, that they have begun exploring whether to hire outside counsel.

                The court’s moves are unprecedented and the most striking development to date in the investigation into who might have provided Politico with the draft opinion it published on May 2. The probe has intensified the already high tensions at the Supreme Court, where the conservative majority is poised to roll back a half-century of abortion rights and privacy protections.

                Chief Justice John Roberts met with law clerks as a group after the breach, CNN has learned, but it is not known whether any systematic individual interviews have occurred.

                Lawyers outside the court who have become aware of the new inquiries related to cell phone details warn of potential intrusiveness on clerks’ personal activities, irrespective of any disclosure to the news media, and say they may feel the need to obtain independent counsel.

                “That’s what similarly situated individuals would do in virtually any other government investigation,” said one appellate lawyer with experience in investigations and knowledge of the new demands on law clerks. “It would be hypocritical for the Supreme Court to prevent its own employees from taking advantage of that fundamental legal protection.”

                Sources familiar with efforts underway say the exact language of the affidavits or the intended scope of that cell phone search – content or time period covered – is not yet clear.

                The Feds seem to have no trouble financially bankrupting whomever they wish. What's a few more law clerks on the pile?

                I think Roberts is going to send a message that sticks. A crucified clerk.

                HoraceH Offline
                HoraceH Offline
                Horace
                wrote on last edited by Horace
                #7

                @Jolly said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                @George-K said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                Lawyer up, kids.

                And pass the popcorn.

                Supreme Court officials are escalating their search for the source of the leaked draft opinion that would overturn Roe v. Wade, taking steps to require law clerks to provide cell phone records and sign affidavits, three sources with knowledge of the efforts have told CNN.

                Some clerks are apparently so alarmed over the moves, particularly the sudden requests for private cell data, that they have begun exploring whether to hire outside counsel.

                The court’s moves are unprecedented and the most striking development to date in the investigation into who might have provided Politico with the draft opinion it published on May 2. The probe has intensified the already high tensions at the Supreme Court, where the conservative majority is poised to roll back a half-century of abortion rights and privacy protections.

                Chief Justice John Roberts met with law clerks as a group after the breach, CNN has learned, but it is not known whether any systematic individual interviews have occurred.

                Lawyers outside the court who have become aware of the new inquiries related to cell phone details warn of potential intrusiveness on clerks’ personal activities, irrespective of any disclosure to the news media, and say they may feel the need to obtain independent counsel.

                “That’s what similarly situated individuals would do in virtually any other government investigation,” said one appellate lawyer with experience in investigations and knowledge of the new demands on law clerks. “It would be hypocritical for the Supreme Court to prevent its own employees from taking advantage of that fundamental legal protection.”

                Sources familiar with efforts underway say the exact language of the affidavits or the intended scope of that cell phone search – content or time period covered – is not yet clear.

                The Feds seem to have no trouble financially bankrupting whomever they wish. What's a few more law clerks on the pile?

                I think Roberts is going to send a message that sticks. A crucified clerk.

                Nobody loses in that case. The clerk becomes a pop culture darling, and prominent law offices would want to be seen offering her (ahem, him or her) a position. That's all fine with me. I'd still like to see the leaker unmasked.

                Education is extremely important.

                JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                • HoraceH Horace

                  @Jolly said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                  @George-K said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                  Lawyer up, kids.

                  And pass the popcorn.

                  Supreme Court officials are escalating their search for the source of the leaked draft opinion that would overturn Roe v. Wade, taking steps to require law clerks to provide cell phone records and sign affidavits, three sources with knowledge of the efforts have told CNN.

                  Some clerks are apparently so alarmed over the moves, particularly the sudden requests for private cell data, that they have begun exploring whether to hire outside counsel.

                  The court’s moves are unprecedented and the most striking development to date in the investigation into who might have provided Politico with the draft opinion it published on May 2. The probe has intensified the already high tensions at the Supreme Court, where the conservative majority is poised to roll back a half-century of abortion rights and privacy protections.

                  Chief Justice John Roberts met with law clerks as a group after the breach, CNN has learned, but it is not known whether any systematic individual interviews have occurred.

                  Lawyers outside the court who have become aware of the new inquiries related to cell phone details warn of potential intrusiveness on clerks’ personal activities, irrespective of any disclosure to the news media, and say they may feel the need to obtain independent counsel.

                  “That’s what similarly situated individuals would do in virtually any other government investigation,” said one appellate lawyer with experience in investigations and knowledge of the new demands on law clerks. “It would be hypocritical for the Supreme Court to prevent its own employees from taking advantage of that fundamental legal protection.”

                  Sources familiar with efforts underway say the exact language of the affidavits or the intended scope of that cell phone search – content or time period covered – is not yet clear.

                  The Feds seem to have no trouble financially bankrupting whomever they wish. What's a few more law clerks on the pile?

                  I think Roberts is going to send a message that sticks. A crucified clerk.

                  Nobody loses in that case. The clerk becomes a pop culture darling, and prominent law offices would want to be seen offering her (ahem, him or her) a position. That's all fine with me. I'd still like to see the leaker unmasked.

                  JollyJ Offline
                  JollyJ Offline
                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  @Horace said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                  @Jolly said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                  @George-K said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                  Lawyer up, kids.

                  And pass the popcorn.

                  Supreme Court officials are escalating their search for the source of the leaked draft opinion that would overturn Roe v. Wade, taking steps to require law clerks to provide cell phone records and sign affidavits, three sources with knowledge of the efforts have told CNN.

                  Some clerks are apparently so alarmed over the moves, particularly the sudden requests for private cell data, that they have begun exploring whether to hire outside counsel.

                  The court’s moves are unprecedented and the most striking development to date in the investigation into who might have provided Politico with the draft opinion it published on May 2. The probe has intensified the already high tensions at the Supreme Court, where the conservative majority is poised to roll back a half-century of abortion rights and privacy protections.

                  Chief Justice John Roberts met with law clerks as a group after the breach, CNN has learned, but it is not known whether any systematic individual interviews have occurred.

                  Lawyers outside the court who have become aware of the new inquiries related to cell phone details warn of potential intrusiveness on clerks’ personal activities, irrespective of any disclosure to the news media, and say they may feel the need to obtain independent counsel.

                  “That’s what similarly situated individuals would do in virtually any other government investigation,” said one appellate lawyer with experience in investigations and knowledge of the new demands on law clerks. “It would be hypocritical for the Supreme Court to prevent its own employees from taking advantage of that fundamental legal protection.”

                  Sources familiar with efforts underway say the exact language of the affidavits or the intended scope of that cell phone search – content or time period covered – is not yet clear.

                  The Feds seem to have no trouble financially bankrupting whomever they wish. What's a few more law clerks on the pile?

                  I think Roberts is going to send a message that sticks. A crucified clerk.

                  Nobody loses in that case. The clerk becomes a pop culture darling, and prominent law offices would want to be seen offering her (ahem, him or her) a position. That's all fine with me. I'd still like to see the leaker unmasked.

                  Interesting take. Do you think any prominent firm would hire the leaker?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @Horace said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                    @Jolly said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                    @George-K said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                    Lawyer up, kids.

                    And pass the popcorn.

                    Supreme Court officials are escalating their search for the source of the leaked draft opinion that would overturn Roe v. Wade, taking steps to require law clerks to provide cell phone records and sign affidavits, three sources with knowledge of the efforts have told CNN.

                    Some clerks are apparently so alarmed over the moves, particularly the sudden requests for private cell data, that they have begun exploring whether to hire outside counsel.

                    The court’s moves are unprecedented and the most striking development to date in the investigation into who might have provided Politico with the draft opinion it published on May 2. The probe has intensified the already high tensions at the Supreme Court, where the conservative majority is poised to roll back a half-century of abortion rights and privacy protections.

                    Chief Justice John Roberts met with law clerks as a group after the breach, CNN has learned, but it is not known whether any systematic individual interviews have occurred.

                    Lawyers outside the court who have become aware of the new inquiries related to cell phone details warn of potential intrusiveness on clerks’ personal activities, irrespective of any disclosure to the news media, and say they may feel the need to obtain independent counsel.

                    “That’s what similarly situated individuals would do in virtually any other government investigation,” said one appellate lawyer with experience in investigations and knowledge of the new demands on law clerks. “It would be hypocritical for the Supreme Court to prevent its own employees from taking advantage of that fundamental legal protection.”

                    Sources familiar with efforts underway say the exact language of the affidavits or the intended scope of that cell phone search – content or time period covered – is not yet clear.

                    The Feds seem to have no trouble financially bankrupting whomever they wish. What's a few more law clerks on the pile?

                    I think Roberts is going to send a message that sticks. A crucified clerk.

                    Nobody loses in that case. The clerk becomes a pop culture darling, and prominent law offices would want to be seen offering her (ahem, him or her) a position. That's all fine with me. I'd still like to see the leaker unmasked.

                    Interesting take. Do you think any prominent firm would hire the leaker?

                    HoraceH Offline
                    HoraceH Offline
                    Horace
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    @Jolly said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                    @Horace said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                    @Jolly said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                    @George-K said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                    Lawyer up, kids.

                    And pass the popcorn.

                    Supreme Court officials are escalating their search for the source of the leaked draft opinion that would overturn Roe v. Wade, taking steps to require law clerks to provide cell phone records and sign affidavits, three sources with knowledge of the efforts have told CNN.

                    Some clerks are apparently so alarmed over the moves, particularly the sudden requests for private cell data, that they have begun exploring whether to hire outside counsel.

                    The court’s moves are unprecedented and the most striking development to date in the investigation into who might have provided Politico with the draft opinion it published on May 2. The probe has intensified the already high tensions at the Supreme Court, where the conservative majority is poised to roll back a half-century of abortion rights and privacy protections.

                    Chief Justice John Roberts met with law clerks as a group after the breach, CNN has learned, but it is not known whether any systematic individual interviews have occurred.

                    Lawyers outside the court who have become aware of the new inquiries related to cell phone details warn of potential intrusiveness on clerks’ personal activities, irrespective of any disclosure to the news media, and say they may feel the need to obtain independent counsel.

                    “That’s what similarly situated individuals would do in virtually any other government investigation,” said one appellate lawyer with experience in investigations and knowledge of the new demands on law clerks. “It would be hypocritical for the Supreme Court to prevent its own employees from taking advantage of that fundamental legal protection.”

                    Sources familiar with efforts underway say the exact language of the affidavits or the intended scope of that cell phone search – content or time period covered – is not yet clear.

                    The Feds seem to have no trouble financially bankrupting whomever they wish. What's a few more law clerks on the pile?

                    I think Roberts is going to send a message that sticks. A crucified clerk.

                    Nobody loses in that case. The clerk becomes a pop culture darling, and prominent law offices would want to be seen offering her (ahem, him or her) a position. That's all fine with me. I'd still like to see the leaker unmasked.

                    Interesting take. Do you think any prominent firm would hire the leaker?

                    They will be a hero, if they say they did it because they were deeply unsettled by the Supreme Court siding with the misogynistic patriarchy. Invitations to The View, Good Morning America, and jobs at law firms, especially those specializing in women's issues, would abound.

                    Education is extremely important.

                    CopperC 1 Reply Last reply
                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @Horace said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                      @Jolly said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                      @George-K said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                      Lawyer up, kids.

                      And pass the popcorn.

                      Supreme Court officials are escalating their search for the source of the leaked draft opinion that would overturn Roe v. Wade, taking steps to require law clerks to provide cell phone records and sign affidavits, three sources with knowledge of the efforts have told CNN.

                      Some clerks are apparently so alarmed over the moves, particularly the sudden requests for private cell data, that they have begun exploring whether to hire outside counsel.

                      The court’s moves are unprecedented and the most striking development to date in the investigation into who might have provided Politico with the draft opinion it published on May 2. The probe has intensified the already high tensions at the Supreme Court, where the conservative majority is poised to roll back a half-century of abortion rights and privacy protections.

                      Chief Justice John Roberts met with law clerks as a group after the breach, CNN has learned, but it is not known whether any systematic individual interviews have occurred.

                      Lawyers outside the court who have become aware of the new inquiries related to cell phone details warn of potential intrusiveness on clerks’ personal activities, irrespective of any disclosure to the news media, and say they may feel the need to obtain independent counsel.

                      “That’s what similarly situated individuals would do in virtually any other government investigation,” said one appellate lawyer with experience in investigations and knowledge of the new demands on law clerks. “It would be hypocritical for the Supreme Court to prevent its own employees from taking advantage of that fundamental legal protection.”

                      Sources familiar with efforts underway say the exact language of the affidavits or the intended scope of that cell phone search – content or time period covered – is not yet clear.

                      The Feds seem to have no trouble financially bankrupting whomever they wish. What's a few more law clerks on the pile?

                      I think Roberts is going to send a message that sticks. A crucified clerk.

                      Nobody loses in that case. The clerk becomes a pop culture darling, and prominent law offices would want to be seen offering her (ahem, him or her) a position. That's all fine with me. I'd still like to see the leaker unmasked.

                      Interesting take. Do you think any prominent firm would hire the leaker?

                      MikM Offline
                      MikM Offline
                      Mik
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                      #10

                      @Jolly said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                      @Horace said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                      @Jolly said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                      @George-K said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                      Lawyer up, kids.

                      And pass the popcorn.

                      Supreme Court officials are escalating their search for the source of the leaked draft opinion that would overturn Roe v. Wade, taking steps to require law clerks to provide cell phone records and sign affidavits, three sources with knowledge of the efforts have told CNN.

                      Some clerks are apparently so alarmed over the moves, particularly the sudden requests for private cell data, that they have begun exploring whether to hire outside counsel.

                      The court’s moves are unprecedented and the most striking development to date in the investigation into who might have provided Politico with the draft opinion it published on May 2. The probe has intensified the already high tensions at the Supreme Court, where the conservative majority is poised to roll back a half-century of abortion rights and privacy protections.

                      Chief Justice John Roberts met with law clerks as a group after the breach, CNN has learned, but it is not known whether any systematic individual interviews have occurred.

                      Lawyers outside the court who have become aware of the new inquiries related to cell phone details warn of potential intrusiveness on clerks’ personal activities, irrespective of any disclosure to the news media, and say they may feel the need to obtain independent counsel.

                      “That’s what similarly situated individuals would do in virtually any other government investigation,” said one appellate lawyer with experience in investigations and knowledge of the new demands on law clerks. “It would be hypocritical for the Supreme Court to prevent its own employees from taking advantage of that fundamental legal protection.”

                      Sources familiar with efforts underway say the exact language of the affidavits or the intended scope of that cell phone search – content or time period covered – is not yet clear.

                      The Feds seem to have no trouble financially bankrupting whomever they wish. What's a few more law clerks on the pile?

                      I think Roberts is going to send a message that sticks. A crucified clerk.

                      Nobody loses in that case. The clerk becomes a pop culture darling, and prominent law offices would want to be seen offering her (ahem, him or her) a position. That's all fine with me. I'd still like to see the leaker unmasked.

                      Interesting take. Do you think any prominent firm would hire the leaker?

                      Yep. I’m with Horace. Someone will deem them a hero.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        @Jolly said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                        @Horace said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                        @Jolly said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                        @George-K said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                        Lawyer up, kids.

                        And pass the popcorn.

                        Supreme Court officials are escalating their search for the source of the leaked draft opinion that would overturn Roe v. Wade, taking steps to require law clerks to provide cell phone records and sign affidavits, three sources with knowledge of the efforts have told CNN.

                        Some clerks are apparently so alarmed over the moves, particularly the sudden requests for private cell data, that they have begun exploring whether to hire outside counsel.

                        The court’s moves are unprecedented and the most striking development to date in the investigation into who might have provided Politico with the draft opinion it published on May 2. The probe has intensified the already high tensions at the Supreme Court, where the conservative majority is poised to roll back a half-century of abortion rights and privacy protections.

                        Chief Justice John Roberts met with law clerks as a group after the breach, CNN has learned, but it is not known whether any systematic individual interviews have occurred.

                        Lawyers outside the court who have become aware of the new inquiries related to cell phone details warn of potential intrusiveness on clerks’ personal activities, irrespective of any disclosure to the news media, and say they may feel the need to obtain independent counsel.

                        “That’s what similarly situated individuals would do in virtually any other government investigation,” said one appellate lawyer with experience in investigations and knowledge of the new demands on law clerks. “It would be hypocritical for the Supreme Court to prevent its own employees from taking advantage of that fundamental legal protection.”

                        Sources familiar with efforts underway say the exact language of the affidavits or the intended scope of that cell phone search – content or time period covered – is not yet clear.

                        The Feds seem to have no trouble financially bankrupting whomever they wish. What's a few more law clerks on the pile?

                        I think Roberts is going to send a message that sticks. A crucified clerk.

                        Nobody loses in that case. The clerk becomes a pop culture darling, and prominent law offices would want to be seen offering her (ahem, him or her) a position. That's all fine with me. I'd still like to see the leaker unmasked.

                        Interesting take. Do you think any prominent firm would hire the leaker?

                        They will be a hero, if they say they did it because they were deeply unsettled by the Supreme Court siding with the misogynistic patriarchy. Invitations to The View, Good Morning America, and jobs at law firms, especially those specializing in women's issues, would abound.

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                        Copper
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                        @Horace said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                        Invitations to The View, Good Morning America, and jobs at law firms, especially those specializing in women's issues, would abound.

                        For the next 99 years these interviews will take place in a federal prison.

                        HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
                        • CopperC Copper

                          @Horace said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                          Invitations to The View, Good Morning America, and jobs at law firms, especially those specializing in women's issues, would abound.

                          For the next 99 years these interviews will take place in a federal prison.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          @Copper said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                          @Horace said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                          Invitations to The View, Good Morning America, and jobs at law firms, especially those specializing in women's issues, would abound.

                          For the next 99 years these interviews will take place in a federal prison.

                          If a law was demonstrably broken here then I would have assumed the FBI would be on the case rather than an internal SCOTUS investigation.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            @Copper said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                            @Horace said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                            Invitations to The View, Good Morning America, and jobs at law firms, especially those specializing in women's issues, would abound.

                            For the next 99 years these interviews will take place in a federal prison.

                            If a law was demonstrably broken here then I would have assumed the FBI would be on the case rather than an internal SCOTUS investigation.

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                            @Horace said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                            If a law was demonstrably broken here then I would have assumed the FBI would be on the case

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                              @Copper said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                              @Horace said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                              Invitations to The View, Good Morning America, and jobs at law firms, especially those specializing in women's issues, would abound.

                              For the next 99 years these interviews will take place in a federal prison.

                              If a law was demonstrably broken here then I would have assumed the FBI would be on the case rather than an internal SCOTUS investigation.

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                              @Horace said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                              @Copper said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                              @Horace said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                              Invitations to The View, Good Morning America, and jobs at law firms, especially those specializing in women's issues, would abound.

                              For the next 99 years these interviews will take place in a federal prison.

                              If a law was demonstrably broken here then I would have assumed the FBI would be on the case rather than an internal SCOTUS investigation.

                              One would assume that if they did not know what side the FBI was on.

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                                Doesn't seem like there is a law stating a clerk cannot share a draft opinion with the media, as long as the clerk did not break the law in obtaining the draft.

                                https://www.reuters.com/world/us/is-it-illegal-leak-us-supreme-court-opinion-2022-05-03/

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                                  I’ve read approximately 75 people could have had access within the court itself. Add to that significant others, etc.

                                  I don't see the point of adding 'significant others' to the circle of possible perpetrators. The SO would not be the perpetrator of the leak. The leak would have occurred when the SO was shown the document.

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                                  @Horace said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                                  I’ve read approximately 75 people could have had access within the court itself. Add to that significant others, etc.

                                  I don't see the point of adding 'significant others' to the circle of possible perpetrators. The SO would not be the perpetrator of the leak. The leak would have occurred when the SO was shown the document.

                                  Someone could leave their laptop. Taken a paper copy home to read. All kinds of ways an SO could do this without the clerk or justice’s knowledge.

                                  Not saying it’s the most likely avenue but it’s a possibility

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    @Horace said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                                    @jon-nyc said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                                    I’ve read approximately 75 people could have had access within the court itself. Add to that significant others, etc.

                                    I don't see the point of adding 'significant others' to the circle of possible perpetrators. The SO would not be the perpetrator of the leak. The leak would have occurred when the SO was shown the document.

                                    Someone could leave their laptop. Taken a paper copy home to read. All kinds of ways an SO could do this without the clerk or justice’s knowledge.

                                    Not saying it’s the most likely avenue but it’s a possibility

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                                    @Horace said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                                    @jon-nyc said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                                    I’ve read approximately 75 people could have had access within the court itself. Add to that significant others, etc.

                                    I don't see the point of adding 'significant others' to the circle of possible perpetrators. The SO would not be the perpetrator of the leak. The leak would have occurred when the SO was shown the document.

                                    Someone could leave their laptop. Taken a paper copy home to read. All kinds of ways an SO could do this without the clerk or justice’s knowledge.

                                    Not saying it’s the most likely avenue but it’s a possibility

                                    Might as well just include Russian spies in the list of possible suspects at that point. Of course there is always a way to steal documents and leak them, for any Impossible Mission operative. We're all going on the much more interesting and plausible scenario of a clerk righteously sharing some salacious wrong side of history making.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Include the Russians if you will.

                                      Maybe you’d like it better if I said “a righteous right-side-of-history SO of a clerk?”

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        Include the Russians if you will.

                                        Maybe you’d like it better if I said “a righteous right-side-of-history SO of a clerk?”

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Investigating the SCOTUS leak:

                                        Include the Russians if you will.

                                        Maybe you’d like it better if I said “a righteous right-side-of-history SO of a clerk?”

                                        I’m curious about motivation for this clear subversion of our institution. I’m also curious at the hesitance of many to speculate about the obvious.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          We must consume different media because everybody spent the first week speculating.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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