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Which supplements do you take?

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
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    Multivitamin
    Vitamin D
    Calcium
    Magnesium

    Transplant meds screw with magnesium levels, calcium for bone health to compensate for daily prednisone habit. D because most of us are deficient and it’s use correlated with better transplant (and covid) outcomes, multivitamin just because.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      #4

      Here's what I take and the purported benefits...

      D - regulating the absorption of calcium and phosphorus and facilitating normal immune system function.

      K2 - contributes to skin health and bone metabolism, promotes proper brain function and prevents heart-related disease.

      NMN - suppress age-associated weight gain, enhance energy metabolism and physical activity, improve insulin sensitivity, improve eye function, improve mitochondrial metabolism and prevent age-linked changes in gene expression.

      B12 - nourishes the brain and nervous system, and assists with the formation of healthy red blood cells.

      I get a powerful amount of fiber from diet.

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        Horace
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        #5

        I take no supplements. When it comes to nutrient intake through diet, I am an overachiever.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          Multivitamin
          NMN - as Kluurs does.
          Pterostilbine - a more bio-available form of resveratrol.

          The effectiveness of these two are questionable, but after reading David Sinclair's book, I figured, why not?

          Finally, metformin. I have (very) mild Type II DM. Well-controlled with diet (A1C almost never >5). However, I mentioned the purported benefits of metformin to my doc, and he said, "It wouldn't hurt, and if you think it helps, I have no problem."

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • kluursK kluurs

            Here's what I take and the purported benefits...

            D - regulating the absorption of calcium and phosphorus and facilitating normal immune system function.

            K2 - contributes to skin health and bone metabolism, promotes proper brain function and prevents heart-related disease.

            NMN - suppress age-associated weight gain, enhance energy metabolism and physical activity, improve insulin sensitivity, improve eye function, improve mitochondrial metabolism and prevent age-linked changes in gene expression.

            B12 - nourishes the brain and nervous system, and assists with the formation of healthy red blood cells.

            I get a powerful amount of fiber from diet.

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            Catseye3
            wrote on last edited by
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            @kluurs said in Which supplements do you take?:

            promotes proper brain function . . .

            So when's that gonna kick in, do you think?

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            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            • Catseye3C Catseye3

              @kluurs said in Which supplements do you take?:

              promotes proper brain function . . .

              So when's that gonna kick in, do you think?

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              @Catseye3 said in Which supplements do you take?:

              @kluurs said in Which supplements do you take?:

              promotes proper brain function . . .

              So when's that gonna kick in, do you think?

              7b22d1c6-8bea-4fcc-b569-e507ebe2b3e2-image.png

              It actually frightens me to consider that if I'm this way with "enhanced" brain function, I shudder to think of what I'd be without supplements.

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              • Catseye3C Catseye3

                I am a lifetime all-over-the-place supplement taker. Sometimes I take a whole drawerful, no putative benefit overlooked. Other times I don't take any. And points between.

                These days I take a multivitamin for women, and when I remember/feel like it, I take omega-3 and gelatin.

                Klaus, do you experience overt improvement when you take creatine?

                Afterthought: I take gelatin because I became convinced that it is more effective than collagen. YMMV, but I redd in more than one place that gelatin, as it comes from hydrolyzed collagen, is more bioavailable and easier to digest.

                But there is now hydrolyzed collagen to take as a supplement. More here: https://ancientnutrition.com/blogs/all/hydrolyzed-collagen

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                @Catseye3 said in Which supplements do you take?:

                Klaus, do you experience overt improvement when you take creatine?

                I don't think it will do much in isolation, but when combined with resistance training (which I also do) there is a mountain of studies which show improved results.

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  I don't take anything.

                  I did try taking a multivitamin for women a few times, but they still refused to have anything to do with me.

                  I was only joking

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                    LuFins Dad
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                    Vitamin D
                    Vitamin C during Cold/Flu Season
                    Probiotics (1 billion)
                    Fish Oil
                    Magnesium when I start feeling leg cramps coming on…

                    The Brad

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                    • George KG George K

                      Multivitamin
                      NMN - as Kluurs does.
                      Pterostilbine - a more bio-available form of resveratrol.

                      The effectiveness of these two are questionable, but after reading David Sinclair's book, I figured, why not?

                      Finally, metformin. I have (very) mild Type II DM. Well-controlled with diet (A1C almost never >5). However, I mentioned the purported benefits of metformin to my doc, and he said, "It wouldn't hurt, and if you think it helps, I have no problem."

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                      @George-K said in Which supplements do you take?:

                      NMN - as Kluurs does.

                      @kluurs @George-K I've never head of NMN before and had to look it up. From what I can see, there are barely any studies of its effect on humans - most studies seem to be on mice. Did I miss something?

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                        Copper
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                        I told the Doctor I was taking this.
                        He said, "you don't need it"
                        I said, "it makes my wife happy"
                        He said, "take it"

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                        • KlausK Klaus

                          @George-K said in Which supplements do you take?:

                          NMN - as Kluurs does.

                          @kluurs @George-K I've never head of NMN before and had to look it up. From what I can see, there are barely any studies of its effect on humans - most studies seem to be on mice. Did I miss something?

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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          @Klaus said in Which supplements do you take?:

                          @George-K said in Which supplements do you take?:

                          NMN - as Kluurs does.

                          @kluurs @George-K I've never head of NMN before and had to look it up. From what I can see, there are barely any studies of its effect on humans - most studies seem to be on mice. Did I miss something?

                          Shut up and pass the cheese

                          I was only joking

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                          • KlausK Klaus

                            @George-K said in Which supplements do you take?:

                            NMN - as Kluurs does.

                            @kluurs @George-K I've never head of NMN before and had to look it up. From what I can see, there are barely any studies of its effect on humans - most studies seem to be on mice. Did I miss something?

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                            @Klaus said in Which supplements do you take?:

                            I've never head of NMN before and had to look it up. From what I can see, there are barely any studies of its effect on humans - most studies seem to be on mice. Did I miss something?

                            No, you didn't. The mouse stuff is pretty interesting however.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              I had never heard of NMN.

                              This from NIH:

                              Supplementing NMN may be an effective nutraceutical anti-aging intervention, with beneficial effects on a wide array of physiological functions.

                              In numerous mouse models of disease and aging, NMN has demonstrated a wide array of remarkable effects, benefitting conditions ranging from diabetes to Alzheimer’s disease to ischemia.

                              NMN is clearly a murine (mouse) fountain of youth. But what about humans? Shin-ichiro Imai has said that NMN may improve adult human metabolism, rendering it more like that of someone ten or twenty years younger.34 His team is now studying NMN in humans. David Sinclair, Harvard University’s noted anti-aging researcher, whose research on resveratrol, NAD+ and sirtuins is world renowned, is also conducting human trials. He is taking NMN himself; he has said his lipid profile has improved dramatically and he feels more energetic and that his blood markers, at nearly 60 years old, are closer to those of a 31-year-old.

                              https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7238909/

                              It sounds like a miracle

                              So I went directly to Amazon to get some

                              I looked at a few NMN products, all had 4+ stars out of 5 reviews. But I also saw several reviews calling the product a scam, some claimed it made them sick.

                              Most reviews were very good, claiming amazing results.

                              I was ready to buy 20 minutes ago, now I might wait a little while.

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                                The problems with all of these reviews is that they're all very subjective - duh. The science on NMN in incomplete, and perhaps it will be proven ineffective - in humans. But, the science in mice (and other animals) is pretty compelling.

                                Read Sinclair's book.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Beer. Wine.

                                  That’s about it.

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                                  • bachophileB bachophile

                                    Beer. Wine.

                                    That’s about it.

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                                    @bachophile said in Which supplements do you take?:

                                    Beer. Wine.

                                    That’s about it.

                                    I was talking about supplements, not essentials.

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                                      I don't take any - but I have to be told I'm dying to get me to take an aspirin... I read a report several years ago from some medical organization, don't remember who.. that said 99% of most supplements do absolutely nothing, so I don't think I'm missing anything by not taking any.

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                                      • LarryL Larry

                                        I don't take any - but I have to be told I'm dying to get me to take an aspirin... I read a report several years ago from some medical organization, don't remember who.. that said 99% of most supplements do absolutely nothing, so I don't think I'm missing anything by not taking any.

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                                        @Larry said in Which supplements do you take?:

                                        I don't take any - but I have to be told I'm dying to get me to take an aspirin... I read a report several years ago from some medical organization, don't remember who.. that said 99% of most supplements do absolutely nothing, so I don't think I'm missing anything by not taking any.

                                        You're probably not.

                                        I would guess that being healthier is more about ingesting less stuff, and almost never about ingesting more more stuff.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          @Larry said in Which supplements do you take?:

                                          I don't take any - but I have to be told I'm dying to get me to take an aspirin... I read a report several years ago from some medical organization, don't remember who.. that said 99% of most supplements do absolutely nothing, so I don't think I'm missing anything by not taking any.

                                          You're probably not.

                                          I would guess that being healthier is more about ingesting less stuff, and almost never about ingesting more more stuff.

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                                          @Horace said in Which supplements do you take?:

                                          I would guess that being healthier is more about ingesting less stuff, and almost never about ingesting more more stuff.

                                          I've waffled around on this question my whole life. Which is true? A, that if you eat a healthy diet you're getting all the nutrients you need, or B, the soils are depleted so the products are also, plus the effects of harmful additives require supplementation?

                                          I don't know. So I take supplements to be on the safe side, when I don't even know if it is necessary to consider a safe side.

                                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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