Hey George - out on bond issues are not just in Chicago.
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wrote on 26 May 2022, 11:54 last edited by
Public safety does not matter...
Thought that was a nice ruling.
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wrote on 26 May 2022, 13:55 last edited by
@Jolly said in Hey George - out on bond issues are not just in Chicago.:
Public safety does not matter...
Thought that was a nice ruling.
Doesn’t seem like the correct interpretation. The Ohio Supreme Court ruling says to not consider public safety when setting monetary bail. That could mean for implementation something along the line of “if public safety really is at stake, simply deny bail; don’t try to get around that by setting very high dollar amount.”
Seriously, if public safety is at risk, just don’t allow bail to begin with. No point allowing bail to actually let the risk to public safety materialize only if when the suspect is well-funded.
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wrote on 26 May 2022, 13:59 last edited by
“This violent offender was released from jail because the Supreme Court of Ohio ruled courts cannot consider public safety when setting monetary bail,”
What the actual fuck? How does anyone get to the status of state SCJ and be so fucking stupid?
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wrote on 26 May 2022, 14:01 last edited by Mik
No, Ax is right on this one. if there is a reasonable belief that public safety is at risk, simply deny bail. Bail is meant to secure your appearance, not keep you in jail. In this case there is no question of that risk. Bail should never have been set.
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“This violent offender was released from jail because the Supreme Court of Ohio ruled courts cannot consider public safety when setting monetary bail,”
What the actual fuck? How does anyone get to the status of state SCJ and be so fucking stupid?
wrote on 26 May 2022, 14:05 last edited by@mark said in Hey George - out on bond issues are not just in Chicago.:
“This violent offender was released from jail because the Supreme Court of Ohio ruled courts cannot consider public safety when setting monetary bail,”
What the actual fuck? How does anyone get to the status of state SCJ and be so fucking stupid?
What makes you think the justices who made that ruling are “stupid”? One interpretation could be the one I presented above. Another possibility is that the actual language of the Ohio state constitution really has something that prohibits consideration of public safety when setting dollar amount on monetary bail, and the Ohio Supreme Court justices were just staying true to the state constitution rather than “legislating from the bench.”
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@mark said in Hey George - out on bond issues are not just in Chicago.:
“This violent offender was released from jail because the Supreme Court of Ohio ruled courts cannot consider public safety when setting monetary bail,”
What the actual fuck? How does anyone get to the status of state SCJ and be so fucking stupid?
What makes you think the justices who made that ruling are “stupid”? One interpretation could be the one I presented above. Another possibility is that the actual language of the Ohio state constitution really has something that prohibits consideration of public safety when setting dollar amount on monetary bail, and the Ohio Supreme Court justices were just staying true to the state constitution rather than “legislating from the bench.”
wrote on 26 May 2022, 14:22 last edited by@Axtremus said in Hey George - out on bond issues are not just in Chicago.:
@mark said in Hey George - out on bond issues are not just in Chicago.:
“This violent offender was released from jail because the Supreme Court of Ohio ruled courts cannot consider public safety when setting monetary bail,”
What the actual fuck? How does anyone get to the status of state SCJ and be so fucking stupid?
What makes you think the justices who made that ruling are “stupid”? One interpretation could be the one I presented above. Another possibility is that the actual language of the Ohio state constitution really has something that prohibits consideration of public safety when setting dollar amount on monetary bail, and the Ohio Supreme Court justices were just staying true to the state constitution rather than “legislating from the bench.”
OK, I admit an emotional response to an idea that sickens me. I will give you all that you state about the Ohio State Constitution and the Justices upholding it. Does the state Constitution permit denying bail if public safety is at risk? If not. then it needs to be modified.
If they are permitted to deny bail, then why wasn't it denied in the first place? And maybe the judge that made that decision needs to be evaluated.