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Women can never be adults?

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    Jolly
    wrote on 22 May 2022, 17:08 last edited by
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    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/05/can-adults-no-longer-consent.php

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Horace
      wrote on 22 May 2022, 17:23 last edited by
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      I wonder what the whole story is. A trial would be interesting. Maybe we can get the depp/heard treatment.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 22 May 2022, 17:41 last edited by
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        How far are we on the downslope of Believe Every Woman?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          22 May 2022, 17:41

          How far are we on the downslope of Believe Every Woman?

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          George K
          wrote on 22 May 2022, 20:18 last edited by
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          @Jolly said in Women can never be adults?:

          How far are we on the downslope of Believe Every Woman?

          Are you a fucking biologist?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • G George K
            22 May 2022, 20:18

            @Jolly said in Women can never be adults?:

            How far are we on the downslope of Believe Every Woman?

            Are you a fucking biologist?

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            Jolly
            wrote on 22 May 2022, 20:24 last edited by
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            @George-K said in Women can never be adults?:

            @Jolly said in Women can never be adults?:

            How far are we on the downslope of Believe Every Woman?

            Are you a fucking biologist?

            Well, that's what it says on the degree. And it's been a long time ago, but in college I even fucked a biologist. And her dad was a professor in the biology department.

            Lots of biology goin' on here...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Klaus
              wrote on 22 May 2022, 21:40 last edited by
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              I have followed that story while it unfolded.

              A much more detailed account of what happened can be found here.

              While I agree with the "can women never be adults" take, I think the main takeaway from this story is something else: That we now live in a world of hypermoral hypocrites, where nobody is safe from persecution by the hypermoral mob.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 22 May 2022, 22:41 last edited by
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                I think that's one problem I have with the Garrison Keillor stuff...Thirty or forty years ago, the object of his fantasies would have told him to shove it up his ass sideways, and that probably would have been the end of it. Leacherous and flirtatious old men will always exist, and I think most ladies know how to handle them.

                One thing Keillor did say in the video I posted the other day that is pure gospel...Times have changed and behavior has to change with it. I'm just not sure it's all for the better...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Horace
                  wrote on 23 May 2022, 00:04 last edited by Horace
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                  I was half expecting that the aggrieved woman would have something resembling a point. Seems I was over-optimistic.

                  Yeah but what about all that right-leaning moral panic, causing relatively sane people to act insanely and amorally, all the way up to the top levels of the status hierarchy? I mean, that stuff exists too, right? Both sides are equally bad.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    Klaus
                    wrote on 23 May 2022, 07:22 last edited by Klaus
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                    Today I've seen a document that changed my mind a little.

                    https://www.docdroid.net/IbuM7VK/searchpage3-pdf#page=17

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                    etc.

                    I can't say how accurate these objections are, and I still think he shouldn't be "canceled" for these things, but if they are somewhat accurate then it is at least fair to conclude that Sabatini is an asshole. To me, these findings about his general demeanour as a "boss" are much more significant than the Puritan "he had a sexual relationship with a lab member" thing.

                    The "adult" reaction by the hosting institution would have been to talk to Sabatini about this unacceptable behavior. If he would have continued this despite the warnings, then one could have considered to letting him go.

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 23 May 2022, 10:33 last edited by
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                      Certainly more than nothing. I wonder how much influence his “European” culture did have on those attitudes, as he claimed. Probably not much.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 23 May 2022, 12:29 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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                        He sounds like a creep to me, assuming Klaus' article is true.

                        How odd that the author of the original article didn't look into this further before coming to the conclusion that the woman was to blame for this poor, sweet, brilliant man's predicament.

                        I was only joking

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 23 May 2022, 12:30 last edited by
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                          That's not the gist of the article.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            23 May 2022, 12:30

                            That's not the gist of the article.

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 23 May 2022, 12:35 last edited by
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                            @Jolly said in Women can never be adults?:

                            That's not the gist of the article.

                            The article paints Sabatini as a victim. If he said the things that are claimed in what Klaus posted, then he's not a victim.

                            Would you get away with saying them where you work? I sure as heck wouldn't. And rightly so.

                            I was only joking

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 23 May 2022, 12:37 last edited by
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                              Yes, it paints him as a victim. And to a certain extent, he is. He's also vulgar and crass.

                              The question is whether the punishment fits the offense?

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • J Jolly
                                23 May 2022, 12:37

                                Yes, it paints him as a victim. And to a certain extent, he is. He's also vulgar and crass.

                                The question is whether the punishment fits the offense?

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 23 May 2022, 12:50 last edited by
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                                @Jolly said in Women can never be adults?:

                                Yes, it paints him as a victim. And to a certain extent, he is. He's also vulgar and crass.

                                The question is whether the punishment fits the offense?

                                I'd say what he said sounded an awful lot like sexual harrassment.

                                I wouldn't want that guy running the works canteen, never mind a lab.

                                I was only joking

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