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The May 9th Victory Parade

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  • Catseye3C Offline
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    Catseye3
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    #7

    Sorry for the length, but this looks like an interesting summary in answer to the question: Has Putin made the biggest mistake of his life by invading Ukraine?

    By John Dewar Gleissner, Most Viewed Writer on Topic of Soviet Union (Quora)

    Yes. Putin may have invaded solely to keep his job as dictator … and/or obtain oil, gas, coal, and water resources …. because he feared NATO… and/or because he is off in the head … and/or through a massive miscalculation as to military and economic factors.

    His biggest mistake is demonstrated by the following:

    Putin made the classic short war assumption, and the fighting is much tougher than he thought and creating more casualties.
    Anti-tank missiles are knocking out many Russian tanks and armored personnel carriers. The column of vehicles headed south to Kyiv was stalled and subjected to attack.

    Green troops were used and they are not holding up to the combat, lack of supplies, and disorganization. The Russian army is simply not that great, contrary to earlier representations.

    Russia hesitates to enter cities because urban warfare favors the defenders.

    The Russians did not account for the full effects of sanctions, including ruin to their currency, banks, credit, investments, interest rates, inflation, and the stock market. Companies are pulling out of Russia, shutting down their Russian operations, and investments in Russia will come to an end.

    Putin is silencing dissent, but more Russians are speaking out against this war. Even though Putin is a dictator, the Russian people will figure out how to make their voices heard.
    Morale is 3 times more important than material in warfare, according to a famous and brilliant general.

    Putin did not figure on the entire Free World uniting against him or on NATO becoming stronger, larger, and more united.
    Ukraine is a huge country, and Putin does not have the troops to occupy all of it. As Russian troops disperse through Ukraine, they become more isolated and present targets.

    Russia and Putin will never be able to subdue and control Ukraine or Ukrainians.

    Putin’s propaganda was unbelievable.

    Putin put his intelligence chief under house arrest, an obvious case of scapegoating for the debacle in Ukraine. A number of his generals have been relieved or fired.

    Putin has shut down the independent press in Russia, and that is a sign of a nation under siege and a worried leader.

    Decades of relationship-building, diplomatic, financial, investment, and trade ties with the West were destroyed in two weeks.

    Russia’s Minister of Defense Sergei Shoigu has no real military training or experience and has never been in the army except as a “politico.” It looks like Putin chose him because Putin did not want a clique of generals having too much power. Putin’s generals could not like being led by a rookie political general.

    Putin is an evil man with evil intent. We appeased him for too long.

    Ukraine sunk the flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, the Moskva, which was longer than two American football fields end-to-end. The Moskva’s triple layer of defenses were distracted by a Turkish-made drone when two Neptune missiles struck the warship. The Turkish-made drone by itself is making Putin’s life miserable if Putin cares what happens to his military.

    The Russian economy will collapse some 10% this year, which is a huge drop in well-being for the average Russian. Russians will figure out that Putin caused their problems, even though Putin blocks the free exchange of information. Once identified as the monster he truly is, some Russian patriot will figure out a way to assist Russia.

    If even some portion of these points are accurate, it seems like the answer to the question is indisputably yes. But if so, how did Putin and/or his advisors make so many miscalculations?

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
      wrote on last edited by
      #8

      Hey, it's Monday in Kiev!

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      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by
        #9

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
          wrote on last edited by George K
          #10

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #11

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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

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              RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote on last edited by
              #12

              @George-K

              Дураки (idiots).

              Elbows up!

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              • RenaudaR Renauda

                @George-K

                Дураки (idiots).

                George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #13

                @Renauda said in The May 9th Victory Parade:

                @George-K

                Дураки (idiots).

                плагиаторы

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG George K

                  @Renauda said in The May 9th Victory Parade:

                  @George-K

                  Дураки (idiots).

                  плагиаторы

                  RenaudaR Offline
                  RenaudaR Offline
                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #14

                  @George-K

                  Безусловно.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by George K
                    #15

                    But wait! There's more!

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/bonnie-and-clyde-shown-among-photos-of-russian-ww2-veterans-on-victory-day/ar-AAX6hSc

                    image.jpeg

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #16

                      A Russian “Z” poster in support of the war in Voronezh with an American F/A-18 fighter.

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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        #17

                        Maybe that's a request rather than a claim.

                        When Goering asked Adolf Galland if there was anything he could do to help, Galland reportedly asked for a squadron of Spitfires.

                        I was only joking

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