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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-the-push-to-tear-gas-protesters-ahead-of-a-trump-photo-op/2020/06/01/4b0f7b50-a46c-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html

    “We long ago lost sight of normal, but this was a singularly immoral act,” said Brendan Buck, a longtime former Hill aide who is now a Republican operative. “The president used force against American citizens, not to protect property, but to soothe his own insecurities. We will all move on to the next outrage, but this was a true abuse of power and should not be forgotten.”

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    Loki
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    @Axtremus said in So nobody is going to talk about:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-the-push-to-tear-gas-protesters-ahead-of-a-trump-photo-op/2020/06/01/4b0f7b50-a46c-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html

    “We long ago lost sight of normal, but this was a singularly immoral act,” said Brendan Buck, a longtime former Hill aide who is now a Republican operative. “The president used force against American citizens, not to protect property, but to soothe his own insecurities. We will all move on to the next outrage, but this was a true abuse of power and should not be forgotten.”

    I guess you have to be able to see both sides of this. Trump’s stunt was an outrage but so is the uncontrolled violence in the cities. It seems like each side is justifying the wrongs of its own side.

    As in the left is looking past the damage and lawlessness and the right is looking past the rights to protest. Sorry protesters you are pawns and human shields.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #14

      The only thing better, would be if streams of flame shot out from the Bible as Trump raised it above his head, incinerating the looters, thugs and anarchists.

      Now, that would have been cool !!!

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        @Axtremus said in So nobody is going to talk about:

        @LuFins-Dad said in So nobody is going to talk about:

        Trump threatening to deploy troops in the US, then having the Secret Service and US Marshalls fire on peaceful protestors with rubber bullets so he could clear them out for a photo op at St. John’s?

        While craving to appear “big” and “strong,”
        Trump is too small a person to lead the land of the free,
        too thin skinned to respect the First Amendment,
        too thick to understand, much less to appreciate, the Constitution.

        I guess as long as someone else pays for the hundreds of millions of dollars of damage, people are paid not to work and only a few people die as collateral damage you are 100% correct.

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        LuFins Dad
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        @Loki these guy’s weren’t rioting or looting, they were standing around it was pretty peaceful. I was listening to one of them being interviewed on the radio when it started. It was quiet in the background, the reporter was describing the peaceful scene, then all hell broke loose as flash bangs began to drop.

        The Brad

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-the-push-to-tear-gas-protesters-ahead-of-a-trump-photo-op/2020/06/01/4b0f7b50-a46c-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html

          “We long ago lost sight of normal, but this was a singularly immoral act,” said Brendan Buck, a longtime former Hill aide who is now a Republican operative. “The president used force against American citizens, not to protect property, but to soothe his own insecurities. We will all move on to the next outrage, but this was a true abuse of power and should not be forgotten.”

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          Jolly
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          #16

          @Axtremus said in So nobody is going to talk about:

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-the-push-to-tear-gas-protesters-ahead-of-a-trump-photo-op/2020/06/01/4b0f7b50-a46c-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html

          “We long ago lost sight of normal, but this was a singularly immoral act,” said Brendan Buck, a longtime former Hill aide who is now a Republican operative. “The president used force against American citizens, not to protect property, but to soothe his own insecurities. We will all move on to the next outrage, but this was a true abuse of power and should not be forgotten.”

          Dude, did you not see the picture of people lining up to purchase guns and ammo that George posted? All this deal hasn't been a protest, since the first day of so.

          Well...

          Link to video

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            Trump threatening to deploy troops in the US, then having the Secret Service and US Marshalls fire on peaceful protestors with rubber bullets so he could clear them out for a photo op at St. John’s?

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            @LuFins-Dad said in So nobody is going to talk about:

            Trump threatening to deploy troops in the US, then having the Secret Service and US Marshalls fire on peaceful protestors with rubber bullets so he could clear them out for a photo op at St. John’s?

            Yeah it was terrible and the opposite of what I expected Trump to do Monday night.

            I will tell you I have heard people in the suburbs saying they want a gun...people that would never consider one and were opposed in the past. Something is going on.

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            • LarryL Offline
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              Blaming Trump for putting together a plan to protect people because a few of the people on the force did something dumb is silly.

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                Larry
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                Ax, as long as you get your information from the Washington Post you will continue to not be able to find your own ass.

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                • CopperC Offline
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                  This is the Secret Service.

                  They do the same for any president and the president doesn't get much choice in how they execute it.

                  I have seen them do some pretty outrageous stuff for Carter, Clinton and Obama. It is how they operate. Personally I don't like how they operate and I have told them so, more than once. It is overkill but that is what they want.

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    Copper is right. The Secret Service does not screw around. Most serious people I ever saw.

                    That said, all this law and order posturing is going to give us our Tiananmen Square. We do NOT want that.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • AxtremusA Away
                      AxtremusA Away
                      Axtremus
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                      Sure, the Secret Service has their protocols.
                      Trump and his lackeys are too stupid or too inconsiderate to account for those protocols with his decision.

                      Imagine:

                      1. Trump: When does the curfew end?
                      2. Lackey: 7pm.
                      3. Trump: How much time do we need to get the site ready for my photo op?
                      4. Secret Service: half hour
                      5. Trump: OK, let’s do my photo op at 7:30

                      Trump and his lackey failed step 3, so steps 3 and onwards did not happen, and you end up with the use of violent force on peaceful protesters, trampling over the First Amendment in the process.

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        @Loki these guy’s weren’t rioting or looting, they were standing around it was pretty peaceful. I was listening to one of them being interviewed on the radio when it started. It was quiet in the background, the reporter was describing the peaceful scene, then all hell broke loose as flash bangs began to drop.

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                        Aqua Letifer
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                        @LuFins-Dad said in So nobody is going to talk about:

                        @Loki these guy’s weren’t rioting or looting, they were standing around it was pretty peaceful. I was listening to one of them being interviewed on the radio when it started. It was quiet in the background, the reporter was describing the peaceful scene, then all hell broke loose as flash bangs began to drop.

                        I've watched dozens of videos and spoke with my friends who participated. That particular incident, at that location and at that time, was peaceful. Anyone who says otherwise is an asshole.

                        Please love yourself.

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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          3871D976-E130-43AA-815A-F9EB6D0C1888.jpeg

                          She's the rector of the St.John's in Georgetown, not Lafayette, but she was at the latter yesterday. Look her up on social media, she's quite the radical.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • AxtremusA Axtremus

                            Sure, the Secret Service has their protocols.
                            Trump and his lackeys are too stupid or too inconsiderate to account for those protocols with his decision.

                            Imagine:

                            1. Trump: When does the curfew end?
                            2. Lackey: 7pm.
                            3. Trump: How much time do we need to get the site ready for my photo op?
                            4. Secret Service: half hour
                            5. Trump: OK, let’s do my photo op at 7:30

                            Trump and his lackey failed step 3, so steps 3 and onwards did not happen, and you end up with the use of violent force on peaceful protesters, trampling over the First Amendment in the process.

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                            Copper
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                            @Axtremus said in So nobody is going to talk about:

                            Imagine:

                            Why?

                            That didn't happen.

                            You just made this up.

                            Nor would it ever happen.

                            This is really deranged.

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                            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                              3871D976-E130-43AA-815A-F9EB6D0C1888.jpeg

                              She's the rector of the St.John's in Georgetown, not Lafayette, but she was at the latter yesterday. Look her up on social media, she's quite the radical.

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                              Copper
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                              @Aqua-Letifer said in So nobody is going to talk about:

                              She's the rector of the St.John's in Georgetown, not Lafayette, but she was at the latter yesterday. Look her up on social media, she's quite the radical.

                              Lock her up.

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                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #28

                                  Here’s the whole statement.

                                  295df1d9-d9fc-44a3-81a7-f18326c44f96-image.png

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on last edited by Copper
                                    #29

                                    When the president moves anywhere, everyone gets out of the way.

                                    It has nothing to do with the constitution.

                                    I don't like it.

                                    But that is how it has worked for decades, rights be damned.

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      Copper is right. The Secret Service does not screw around. Most serious people I ever saw.

                                      That said, all this law and order posturing is going to give us our Tiananmen Square. We do NOT want that.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      @Mik said in So nobody is going to talk about:

                                      Copper is right. The Secret Service does not screw around. Most serious people I ever saw.

                                      That said, all this law and order posturing is going to give us our Tiananmen Square. We do NOT want that.

                                      +1

                                      We need people to start calming the fuck down, and our leaders need to help that, not make things more volatile.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        Weird video:

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                                          xenon
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                                          That same walk from a different angle:

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