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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #5

    OK, I'm about 15 minutes into this.

    It's good. It's DAMN good. It's trek, and has has the right mix of humor, seriousness, characters, etc.

    They reference "Lieutenant Kirk" whom Pike requested.

    Spock is appropriately dry, and approachable.

    As if you didn't expect it, Anson Mount is great.

    I'll receiver further comments after the next 40 minutes.

    I'm hopeful.

    Oh, remember that scene from "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" in which Scotty takes Kirk on the tour of the Enterprise in dry dock? Yeah, they give a nod to that.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      George K
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      Not bad. Not bad at all.

      But, not great.

      First of all, it gets a bit preachy in the last 15 minutes or so. Totally unnecessary.

      Secondly, the "wink and nod" toward ST:TOS is just a bit too obvious. The sense of humor is just a bit strained.

      But, it's light. It's fun and I'll probably continue with the series (unlike Discovery or Picard) for at least this season.

      Mount is great, of course. The young Spock, Uhura and Chappel are fun as well.

      Wait..what?

      "Samuel Kirk?"

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      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • MikM Offline
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        Mik
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        #7

        Kirk's dad.

        Just finished it. This is Star Trek at its best. A bit preachy and maybe a little too much introspection, but Pike's did serve the story.

        Like it. Like seeing a story wrapped up in an episode.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Mik

          Kirk's dad.

          Just finished it. This is Star Trek at its best. A bit preachy and maybe a little too much introspection, but Pike's did serve the story.

          Like it. Like seeing a story wrapped up in an episode.

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          George K
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          @Mik said in More Trek:

          Kirk's dad.

          Older brother:

          George Samuel Kirk made his first appearance on Star Trek: The Original Series. He was introduced as James’ older brother.

          The character, who was a scientist, made a very brief appearance on the show and was portrayed by William Shatner.

          More specifically, Samuel, who was often referred to as ‘Sam,’ was a research biologist living on the planet Deneva. He was married to a woman named Aurelan, portrayed by Joan Swift, and had three sons.

          Sam gets killed by flying parasites and it was James, who’s usually referred to as Jim, who found his dead body at the start of “Operation – Annihilate!”

          Just finished it. This is Star Trek at its best. A bit preachy and maybe a little too much introspection, but Pike's did serve the story.

          Like it. Like seeing a story wrapped up in an episode.

          Well, ST:TOS as well as TNG and to a lesser extent DS9 were all very episodic in nature. That's the way all TV was back in the dark ages. I would have to say that Babylon 5 began to break that mold in the mid-1990s.

          But yeah, it's "Trek," to be sure. Goes off the rails a bit, and, as you say, a bit preachy at times. Overall, a sold 4 out of 5 stars.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #9

            Jonah Goldberg:

            "Watched the first episode of Star Trek: Brave New Worlds. I liked it. But the idea that Earth would still be using giant windmills after we cracked anti-matter technology is just insanely stupid."

            See my "preachy" comment above, LOL.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • MikM Offline
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              Mik
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              Yeah, that occurred to me as well, but I wrote it off because it kind of worked. Not sure how realistic a show about warp speed, galaxy hopping and photon torpedoes really needs to be. Willing suspension of disbelief and all that.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Horace
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                #11

                I assume there were no birds anywhere.

                When conservatives dominate pop culture, there'll be a scene in their version of Star Trek where the kid tugs on his dad's sleeve and asks "daddy, what did birds sound like?" Then the dad will describe the beautiful singing, lost forever to the avian genocide of windmills. Sometimes, he'll explain, society gets caught up by evil ideologues, like Hitler, Putin, and Thunberg. But eventually, the good, conservative progressives lead the way for a better future.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  I assume there were no birds anywhere.

                  When conservatives dominate pop culture, there'll be a scene in their version of Star Trek where the kid tugs on his dad's sleeve and asks "daddy, what did birds sound like?" Then the dad will describe the beautiful singing, lost forever to the avian genocide of windmills. Sometimes, he'll explain, society gets caught up by evil ideologues, like Hitler, Putin, and Thunberg. But eventually, the good, conservative progressives lead the way for a better future.

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                  George K
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                  @Horace said in More Trek:

                  I assume there were no birds anywhere.

                  image.jpeg

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Episode 2 was maybe better than 1.

                    A worthy successor and much better than Discovery or Picard.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      Episode 2 was maybe better than 1.

                      A worthy successor and much better than Discovery or Picard.

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                      George K
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                      @Mik said in More Trek:

                      Episode 2 was maybe better than 1.

                      Maybe. At least its equal. I'm enjoying the Uhura backstory, and Pike's struggle with his mortality. I wonder how they'll deal with that, considering that it's canon that Pike dies.

                      A worthy successor and much better than Discovery or Picard.

                      And how. It also shows how well episodic TV can be done. I hope it keeps it up.

                      "Spock's girlfriend," LOL.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Mik
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                        #15

                        Ah, but he doesn't die! He gets all messed up, but still alive, and as they dhow him here, in the chair like ST original. I cannot help but wonder if he will escape that fate.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik

                          Ah, but he doesn't die! He gets all messed up, but still alive, and as they dhow him here, in the chair like ST original. I cannot help but wonder if he will escape that fate.

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                          George K
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                          @Mik said in More Trek:

                          Ah, but he doesn't die! He gets all messed up, but still alive, and as they dhow him here, in the chair like ST original.

                          You're absolutely right.

                          image.jpeg

                          But Mount, as always is fabulous. The whole dinner scene was my favorite part of the episode.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Dinner was great. I actually loved the whole episode.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • MikM Mik

                              Dinner was great. I actually loved the whole episode.

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                              George K
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                              @Mik said in More Trek:

                              Dinner was great. I actually loved the whole episode.

                              "Space monks," LOL.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                George K
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                                Well done.

                                VERY well done.

                                It's Classic "Trek" at its best. It gets a bit maudlin and preachy in this episode, but still has the right mix of adventure and excitement. This could have been an episode from 1967, because Gorn. Yep, Gorn.

                                Episodic TV still works.

                                Oh, in sick bay, they showed a bag of "plasma" hanging...

                                That's really what it looks like.

                                It's usually a 500 ml bag, but who knows what it'll be in 300 years, right?

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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  But we did not SEE the Gorn, unlike the original, where they were reptilian.

                                  Still, excellent Trek. Best of the spinoff series so far, and aren't the special effects great?

                                  Mount is superb. The new Spock is believable. Some of the women are overdone, but what the heck.

                                  Looking forward to E5, which promises to be funny.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    But we did not SEE the Gorn, unlike the original, where they were reptilian.

                                    Still, excellent Trek. Best of the spinoff series so far, and aren't the special effects great?

                                    Mount is superb. The new Spock is believable. Some of the women are overdone, but what the heck.

                                    Looking forward to E5, which promises to be funny.

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                                    George K
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                                    @Mik said in More Trek:

                                    But we did not SEE the Gorn,

                                    image.png

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Episode 6. SO Trek. TNG was good, this is light years better and more faithful.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Episode 6. SO Trek. TNG was good, this is light years better and more faithful.

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                                        @Mik said in More Trek:

                                        Episode 6. SO Trek. TNG was good, this is light years better and more faithful.

                                        Looking forward to it.

                                        BTW, The Orville is back too. Pretty good, and a solid homage to the genre.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          George K
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                                          Very very "Trek-ey."

                                          They've done an excellent job of telling the story of characters we all know into a contemporary setting - albeit set before ST:TOS.

                                          A suffice amount of Trek Technobabble. The required amount of "just campy-enough" costumes. Sets are typical Trek from the 1960s, but not as cheap-looking.

                                          The kid was annoying AF.

                                          Spock is great, Nurse Chappel is...well @jon-nyc would hit that.

                                          And the best hair of the show belongs to Pike.

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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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