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  • MikM Offline
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    It shouldn’t be. If that’s not aggravated menacing I don’t know what would be.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • HoraceH Horace

      Nothing scarier than a righteous mob.

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      @Horace said in Inexcusable:

      Nothing scarier than a righteous mob.

      I agree. But did that hold in January of 2021 as well? Or is that a new development in primate evolution for 2022?

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • MikM Mik

        It shouldn’t be. If that’s not aggravated menacing I don’t know what would be.

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        @Mik said in Inexcusable:

        It shouldn’t be. If that’s not aggravated menacing I don’t know what would be.

        I agree. Maybe an exception for official residences since there’s usually security and no neighbors involved.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          @Horace said in Inexcusable:

          Nothing scarier than a righteous mob.

          I agree. But did that hold in January of 2021 as well? Or is that a new development in primate evolution for 2022?

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          @jon-nyc said in Inexcusable:

          @Horace said in Inexcusable:

          Nothing scarier than a righteous mob.

          I agree. But did that hold in January of 2021 as well? Or is that a new development in primate evolution for 2022?

          That certainly qualified as a righteous mob. What it wasn’t, was a coup attempt.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @Horace said in Inexcusable:

            Nothing scarier than a righteous mob.

            I agree. But did that hold in January of 2021 as well? Or is that a new development in primate evolution for 2022?

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            @jon-nyc said in Inexcusable:

            @Horace said in Inexcusable:

            Nothing scarier than a righteous mob.

            I agree. But did that hold in January of 2021 as well? Or is that a new development in primate evolution for 2022?

            Fixated, ain't you? 😁

            Last time I looked, none of the Justices live in public housing....

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              I know it’s legal. But still.

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              @jon-nyc said in Inexcusable:

              I know it’s legal.

              https://codes.findlaw.com/us/title-18-crimes-and-criminal-procedure/18-usc-sect-1507.html

              Whoever, with the intent of interfering with, obstructing, or impeding the administration of justice, or with the intent of influencing any judge, juror, witness, or court officer, in the discharge of his duty, pickets or parades in or near a building housing a court of the United States, or in or near a building or residence occupied or used by such judge, juror, witness, or court officer, or with such intent uses any sound-truck or similar device or resorts to any other demonstration in or near any such building or residence, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

              What am I missing?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Virginia law: https://codes.findlaw.com/va/title-18-2-crimes-and-offenses-generally/va-code-sect-18-2-418.html

                It is hereby declared that the protection and preservation of the home is the keystone of democratic government;  that the public health and welfare and the good order of the community require that members of the community enjoy in their homes a feeling of well-being, tranquility, and privacy, and when absent from their homes carry with them the sense of security inherent in the assurance that they may return to the enjoyment of their homes;  that the practice of picketing before or about residences and dwelling places causes emotional disturbance and distress to the occupants;  that such practice has as its object the harassing of such occupants;  and without resort to such practice, full opportunity exists, and under the terms and provisions of this article will continue to exist, for the exercise of freedom of speech and other constitutional rights;  and that the provisions hereinafter enacted are necessary in the public interest, to avoid the detrimental results herein set forth.

                Any person who shall engage in picketing before or about the residence or dwelling place of any individual, or who shall assemble with another person or persons in a manner which disrupts or threatens to disrupt any individual’s right to tranquility in his home, shall be guilty of a Class 3 misdemeanor. Each day on which a violation of this section occurs shall constitute a separate offense.

                At least 4 of the justices live in Virginia.

                Eugene Volokh agrees that this is illegal.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Then they need to start enforcing this law. Pronto.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    Then they need to start enforcing this law. Pronto.

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                    @Mik said in Inexcusable:

                    Then they need to start enforcing this law. Pronto.

                    Eric Holder's Merrick Garland's DOJ won't do that.

                    Perhaps some "security" can be recruited?

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                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      @Horace said in Inexcusable:

                      Nothing scarier than a righteous mob.

                      I agree. But did that hold in January of 2021 as well? Or is that a new development in primate evolution for 2022?

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                      @jon-nyc said in Inexcusable:

                      @Horace said in Inexcusable:

                      Nothing scarier than a righteous mob.

                      I agree. But did that hold in January of 2021 as well? Or is that a new development in primate evolution for 2022?

                      Don’t pretend this started in January 2021…

                      The Brad

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                        Don't pretend I'm pretending this started in 2021.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          Psaki:

                          The president’s view is that there’s a lot of passion, a lot of fear, a lot of sadness from many, many people across this country about what they saw in that leaked document. We obviously want people’s privacy to be respected. We want people to protest peacefully if they want to protest. That is certainly what the president’s view would be. But I think we shouldn’t lose the point here. The reason people are protesting is because women across the country are worried about their fundamental rights that had been law for 50 years — their rights to make choices about their own bodies and their own health care — are at risk. That’s why people are protesting. They’re unhappy. They’re scared.

                          Andy McCarthy comments:

                          This is more justification than condemnation. When discussing unacceptable behavior, it is a given that the perpetrators will be “passionate” or “scared” or “sad” or “worried” or “unhappy.” That part is obvious. The material question is whether those people are to be forgiven for indulging their strong emotions and damaging our political order in the process. Because the maintenance of our civilization demands that they not be, the answer to the question, “Should these passionate, scared, sad, worried, unhappy people break the rules?” must be “No” — especially when the person answering speaks for the president of the United States. The important thing about the rioters of January 6 was not that they were passionate or scared or sad or worried or unhappy; the important thing about the rioters of January 6 was that they attacked our system of government and put other people’s lives in danger. There is no place for a response to January 6 that starts with a recitation of grievances and ends with a “but,” and there is no place for such a response to this leak, either.

                          Does President Biden understand the position he currently occupies? I wonder. Last year, after an activist followed Senator Kyrsten Sinema into a bathroom in Arizona, Biden said only that, “I don’t think they’re appropriate tactics, but it happens to everybody.” Then he added that “it’s part of the process.” But this was nonsense. Following people into bathrooms to harangue them is not “part of the process”; it is a violation of “the process.” That the president of the United States was unwilling to say as much was extraordinary in and of itself. That he was unable to say as much when the person being harassed carried the fate of his entire legislative agenda on her shoulders was inexplicable.

                          Of all the people in America, Joe Biden should know this. In 2020, his opponent in the presidential election was a man with an inability to flatly condemn bad behavior — a flaw from which Biden made a great deal of hay. Today, Biden has become what he claimed to hate.

                          Perhaps — just perhaps — he was full of it all along.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            Psaki:

                            The president’s view is that there’s a lot of passion, a lot of fear, a lot of sadness from many, many people across this country about what they saw in that leaked document. We obviously want people’s privacy to be respected. We want people to protest peacefully if they want to protest. That is certainly what the president’s view would be. But I think we shouldn’t lose the point here. The reason people are protesting is because women across the country are worried about their fundamental rights that had been law for 50 years — their rights to make choices about their own bodies and their own health care — are at risk. That’s why people are protesting. They’re unhappy. They’re scared.

                            Andy McCarthy comments:

                            This is more justification than condemnation. When discussing unacceptable behavior, it is a given that the perpetrators will be “passionate” or “scared” or “sad” or “worried” or “unhappy.” That part is obvious. The material question is whether those people are to be forgiven for indulging their strong emotions and damaging our political order in the process. Because the maintenance of our civilization demands that they not be, the answer to the question, “Should these passionate, scared, sad, worried, unhappy people break the rules?” must be “No” — especially when the person answering speaks for the president of the United States. The important thing about the rioters of January 6 was not that they were passionate or scared or sad or worried or unhappy; the important thing about the rioters of January 6 was that they attacked our system of government and put other people’s lives in danger. There is no place for a response to January 6 that starts with a recitation of grievances and ends with a “but,” and there is no place for such a response to this leak, either.

                            Does President Biden understand the position he currently occupies? I wonder. Last year, after an activist followed Senator Kyrsten Sinema into a bathroom in Arizona, Biden said only that, “I don’t think they’re appropriate tactics, but it happens to everybody.” Then he added that “it’s part of the process.” But this was nonsense. Following people into bathrooms to harangue them is not “part of the process”; it is a violation of “the process.” That the president of the United States was unwilling to say as much was extraordinary in and of itself. That he was unable to say as much when the person being harassed carried the fate of his entire legislative agenda on her shoulders was inexplicable.

                            Of all the people in America, Joe Biden should know this. In 2020, his opponent in the presidential election was a man with an inability to flatly condemn bad behavior — a flaw from which Biden made a great deal of hay. Today, Biden has become what he claimed to hate.

                            Perhaps — just perhaps — he was full of it all along.

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                            @George-K said in Inexcusable:

                            Psaki:

                            The president’s view is that there’s a lot of passion, a lot of fear, a lot of sadness from many, many people across this country about what they saw in that leaked document. We obviously want people’s privacy to be respected. We want people to protest peacefully if they want to protest. That is certainly what the president’s view would be. But I think we shouldn’t lose the point here. The reason people are protesting is because women across the country are worried about their fundamental rights that had been law for 50 years — their rights to make choices about their own bodies and their own health care — are at risk. That’s why people are protesting. They’re unhappy. They’re scared.

                            Andy McCarthy comments:

                            This is more justification than condemnation. When discussing unacceptable behavior, it is a given that the perpetrators will be “passionate” or “scared” or “sad” or “worried” or “unhappy.” That part is obvious. The material question is whether those people are to be forgiven for indulging their strong emotions and damaging our political order in the process. Because the maintenance of our civilization demands that they not be, the answer to the question, “Should these passionate, scared, sad, worried, unhappy people break the rules?” must be “No” — especially when the person answering speaks for the president of the United States. The important thing about the rioters of January 6 was not that they were passionate or scared or sad or worried or unhappy; the important thing about the rioters of January 6 was that they attacked our system of government and put other people’s lives in danger. There is no place for a response to January 6 that starts with a recitation of grievances and ends with a “but,” and there is no place for such a response to this leak, either.

                            Does President Biden understand the position he currently occupies? I wonder. Last year, after an activist followed Senator Kyrsten Sinema into a bathroom in Arizona, Biden said only that, “I don’t think they’re appropriate tactics, but it happens to everybody.” Then he added that “it’s part of the process.” But this was nonsense. Following people into bathrooms to harangue them is not “part of the process”; it is a violation of “the process.” That the president of the United States was unwilling to say as much was extraordinary in and of itself. That he was unable to say as much when the person being harassed carried the fate of his entire legislative agenda on her shoulders was inexplicable.

                            Of all the people in America, Joe Biden should know this. In 2020, his opponent in the presidential election was a man with an inability to flatly condemn bad behavior — a flaw from which Biden made a great deal of hay. Today, Biden has become what he claimed to hate.

                            Perhaps — just perhaps — he was full of it all along.

                            Most people are. Notice how much we've talked about the BLM and AntiFa riots and how much property destruction and death resulted from those "protests". Not to mention a person couldn't attend church at that time, but he could meet up with a crowd of people at a protest.

                            No, it's all about who controls the narrative, what is condoned and what is condemned, by those who are smarter than the rest of us

                            It's all Maximus Hypocriticus Horseshit. And all it causes is division and strife, purely for political and power leverage. Apply the laws on the books, apply them evenly and fairly and impart truly blind justice.

                            Like many of the truly important things in life, it's very simple in concept, but man always finds a way to complicate it and screw it up.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Shaping the narrative:

                              That's correct: RIGHT-wing violence.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                We'd be better off as a nation, if most "news" programs were mandated to have a red banner at the bottom of the screen that flashed OPINION and the standards of slander and libel for public figures were closer to that of priivate citizens.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  It's nice to see people participate in this experiment with democracy.

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                                    Watch the abortion advocate kill the fake baby.

                                    Democrats must be proud.

                                    https://www.foxnews.com/us/nyc-church-abortion-protesters

                                    NYC church swarmed by pro-abortion protesters: 'I'm killing the babies'

                                    Abortion groups have called for nationwide protests in response to the potential striking down of Roe v. Wade

                                    Pro-abortion activists descended upon an iconic New York City church on Saturday as an anti-abortion group showed up once again in their monthly routine of demonstrating outside a nearby Planned Parenthood clinic.

                                    The activists showed up at the Basilica of St. Patrick's Old Cathedral in Manhattan on Saturday morning, just feet from a group of anti-abortion protesters who typically walk from the church to a nearby Planned Parenthood site on the first Saturday of every month, according to WNYW-TV.

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                                      Shame they didn't wait for today.

                                      Nothing says Mother's Day quite like killing babies.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        Rumors are that Alito and family have been moved to an "undisclosed safe location."

                                        Georgetown ConLaw professor opines, in a now deleted tweet.:

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                                        Psaki Psircles back (only took 4-5 days). Guess it polled pretty poorly, so we gotta get ahead of that.

                                        Screen Shot 2022-05-09 at 11.07.21 AM.png

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          We'd be better off as a nation, if most "news" programs were mandated to have a red banner at the bottom of the screen that flashed OPINION and the standards of slander and libel for public figures were closer to that of priivate citizens.

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                                          @Jolly said in Inexcusable:

                                          We'd be better off as a nation, if most "news" programs were mandated to have a red banner at the bottom of the screen that flashed OPINION and the standards of slander and libel for public figures were closer to that of priivate citizens.

                                          Unfortunately, the majority of the people want "entertainment" rather than "news". The entertainment shows on the various channels (Fox, CNN, etc) pretend to be news, and the news shows on those same channels also pretend to be news.

                                          A station that would show unbiased straight news would not survive, unless they were willing to lose money every month.

                                          I was reading an article about a cable station in Taiwan, that tried to focus on straight news and it failed. They referenced a news program in the US (I think called News America) that started out with a grand ambition to be an unbias news source. Ratings (if the program is still around) are almost zero.

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