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Ozark and Valhalla

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  • MikM Mik

    Ozark takes the SOA 'things just keep getting worse no matter how I try' story and makes it immensely more interesting. Its exploration f American corruption, while a bit far fetched at times, is compelling TV. The way Jason Bateman plays Marty is brilliant.

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    @Mik said in Ozark and Valhalla:

    Ozark takes the SOA 'things just keep getting worse no matter how I try' story and makes it immensely more interesting.

    I found myself getting bored with SOA. I don't even think I watched past season . Just constantly more of the same.

    The way Jason Bateman plays Marty is brilliant.

    Absolutely. And, of course Laura Linney is wonderful in everything she does. I first saw her in Mr. Holland's Opus, and loved her as Abagail Adams.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      @Mik said in Ozark and Valhalla:

      Ozark takes the SOA 'things just keep getting worse no matter how I try' story and makes it immensely more interesting.

      I found myself getting bored with SOA. I don't even think I watched past season . Just constantly more of the same.

      The way Jason Bateman plays Marty is brilliant.

      Absolutely. And, of course Laura Linney is wonderful in everything she does. I first saw her in Mr. Holland's Opus, and loved her as Abagail Adams.

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      @George-K said in Ozark and Valhalla:

      I found myself getting bored with SOA. I don't even think I watched past season . Just constantly more of the same.

      Me too. Mistakes and doublecrosses one after another, all going nowhere. Mayans is going much the same direction. It started out with an interesting premise but is fizzling.

      The way Jason Bateman plays Marty is brilliant.

      Absolutely. And, of course Laura Linney is wonderful in everything she does. I first saw her in Mr. Holland's Opus, and loved her as Abagail Adams.

      Wendy is definitely the more violent of the two. Interesting juxtaposition of those roles.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        @George-K said in Ozark and Valhalla:

        I found myself getting bored with SOA. I don't even think I watched past season . Just constantly more of the same.

        Me too. Mistakes and doublecrosses one after another, all going nowhere. Mayans is going much the same direction. It started out with an interesting premise but is fizzling.

        The way Jason Bateman plays Marty is brilliant.

        Absolutely. And, of course Laura Linney is wonderful in everything she does. I first saw her in Mr. Holland's Opus, and loved her as Abagail Adams.

        Wendy is definitely the more violent of the two. Interesting juxtaposition of those roles.

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        @Mik said in Ozark and Valhalla:

        Wendy is definitely the more violent of the two. Interesting juxtaposition of those roles.

        But she wasn't in the beginning.

        Once she accepted Marty's "job," she blossomed, if that's the word. And the kids? FFS.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          @Mik said in Ozark and Valhalla:

          Wendy is definitely the more violent of the two. Interesting juxtaposition of those roles.

          But she wasn't in the beginning.

          Once she accepted Marty's "job," she blossomed, if that's the word. And the kids? FFS.

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          @George-K said in Ozark and Valhalla:

          @Mik said in Ozark and Valhalla:

          Wendy is definitely the more violent of the two. Interesting juxtaposition of those roles.

          But she wasn't in the beginning.

          Once she accepted Marty's "job," she blossomed, if that's the word. And the kids? FFS.

          Wendy was always compromised. They both thought they could make a deal with the devil.

          The problem with Ozarks is that there is no character anyone can sympathize with. Marty and Wendy don’t work as anti-heroes in way that Tony Soprano or Walter White do. It’s just a dark slice of humanity.

          Valhalla was meh.

          For a really well done, creepy, binge worthy series, M Knight Shymalan’s “Servant”.

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            The second half of the final season dropped last night. I haven't watched.

            But guess what I'm doing this weekend...

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              The second half of the final season dropped last night. I haven't watched.

              But guess what I'm doing this weekend...

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              @George-K watched e8 and 9 today. Pretty good.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                Just watched 8.

                Julia Garner is amazing.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  She is. I love how they make her up and light her as well. Striking. I wonder how many notice that.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    Told you I was going to binge it...

                    ...and I did.

                    It's a cloudy, rainy, day here in suburban Chicago, and I have nothing better to do.

                    Wow. What a sad, depressing, but, somehow satisfying ending to the story. Up to the last episode, it wasn't clear what was going to happen to the principal characters, and they managed to wrap it up in just over an hour (or less, if you're watching at 1.25 speed).

                    Nobody changed, nobody was redeemed (except, perhaps, Ruth), and pretty much everyone suffered.

                    A very satisfying conclusion to a show about terrible, horrible, unlikeable people.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Told you I was going to binge it...

                      ...and I did.

                      It's a cloudy, rainy, day here in suburban Chicago, and I have nothing better to do.

                      Wow. What a sad, depressing, but, somehow satisfying ending to the story. Up to the last episode, it wasn't clear what was going to happen to the principal characters, and they managed to wrap it up in just over an hour (or less, if you're watching at 1.25 speed).

                      Nobody changed, nobody was redeemed (except, perhaps, Ruth), and pretty much everyone suffered.

                      A very satisfying conclusion to a show about terrible, horrible, unlikeable people.

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                      placet.

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