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Roe Overturned?

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    It will be interesting to see the electoral effects. With Roe/Casey in place, the GOP has tried to pass abortion-limiting laws that poll pretty well, like parental notification and late term stuff.

    Without Roe we’ll see a lot of total bans, maybe including rape and incest. Those aren’t broadly popular. It will be interesting to watch.

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    George K
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    @jon-nyc said in RIP Roe:

    It will be interesting to see the electoral effects. With Roe/Casey in place, the GOP has tried to pass abortion-limiting laws that poll pretty well, like parental notification and late term stuff.

    And, IMO, those are not unreasonable restrictions/requirements. Remember that only about 4 countries have abortion permitted as late into the pregnancy as the United States. Most countries draw the line at 12-14 weeks, iirc.

    Without Roe we’ll see a lot of total bans, maybe including rape and incest. Those aren’t broadly popular.

    They're popular in a very vocal minority, and having that kind of a megaphone has an effect. But, as you say, not "broadly," and that's good.

    Meanwhile, Roberts is understanably pissed:

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      @George-K

      Fair enough, but doofi is in category one. (because I said so)

      Doofus.

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      @jon-nyc said in RIP Roe:

      @George-K

      Fair enough, but doofi is in category one. (because I said so)

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      It probably has a Greek origin, like "octopus", making the "es" the correct pluralization.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        @jon-nyc said in RIP Roe:

        @George-K

        Fair enough, but doofi is in category one. (because I said so)

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        Screen Shot 2022-05-03 at 6.56.47 AM.png

        It probably has a Greek origin, like "octopus", making the "es" the correct pluralization.

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        @George-K said in RIP Roe:

        It probably has a Greek origin, like "octopus", making the "es" the correct pluralization.

        Doofodes

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          A history of scotus leaks.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            A history of scotus leaks.

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            #29

            @jon-nyc thanks for that. Interesting thread.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Don't like it, from either side. It's a blatant political move and in today's climate, we need less politics from the court, not more.

              Roe was bad law and should have been struck down years ago. But let people read the decision when it comes out, and then move forward.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                I wonder if the final decision will quote RBG's criticisms of Roe. I suspect it will.

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                @jon-nyc said in RIP Roe:

                I wonder if the final decision will quote RBG's criticisms of Roe. I suspect it will.

                It does.

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                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @jon-nyc said in RIP Roe:

                  I wonder if the final decision will quote RBG's criticisms of Roe. I suspect it will.

                  It does.

                  8CB0D8AF-0157-4173-9F2B-3964D9D417A4.png

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                  @jon-nyc said in RIP Roe:

                  @jon-nyc said in RIP Roe:

                  I wonder if the final decision will quote RBG's criticisms of Roe. I suspect it will.

                  It does.

                  8CB0D8AF-0157-4173-9F2B-3964D9D417A4.png

                  Errmmm…. Does anyone proofread ?

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                    jon-nyc
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                    #33

                    Those are probably errors introduced by optical character recognition.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      #34

                      Candidate for FL Attorney General issues a call for insurrection revolution.

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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        "I'll say ANYTHING to get elected.".

                        I'm reminded of one Ohio attorney general or something candidate back in the 80's or 90's who campaigned on getting tough about drugs, showed aa picture of the electric chair and said "drug dealers, have a seat!".

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          Well, this guy just called for the overthrow of the government, didn't he?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Candidate for FL Attorney General issues a call for insurrection revolution.

                            Screen Shot 2022-05-03 at 8.26.04 AM.png

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                            @George-K said in RIP Roe:

                            Candidate for FL Attorney General issues a call for insurrection revolution.

                            Screen Shot 2022-05-03 at 8.26.04 AM.png

                            Proudly willing to die on a hill of dead babies.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              LOL: My pansexual queer 3-year-old child of color, Pebble Solomon Haworth, just read the Politico SCOTUS leak, looked up at me and asked, through tears, “non-birthing parent, why would Ron DeSantis do this?”

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Aqua Letifer
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                                So, they've got the crowds already. I think the final decision is really going to be the thing to watch, though. My guess is, that's when it might get stupid.

                                There are a lot of protesters out there right now with signs that say, "HANDS OFF OUR VAGINAS." Isn't that literally what this decision will lead to?

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  "MEN SHOULD NOT DECIDE WOMEN'S HEALTH!"
                                  "MEN SHOULD NOT DECIDE WOMEN'S HEALTH!"
                                  "MEN SHOULD NOT DECIDE WOMEN'S HEALTH!"
                                  "MEN SHOULD NOT DECIDE WOMEN'S HEALTH!"

                                  What's a woman? Are they biologists now?

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Yeah, but what has Disney said about it?

                                    The Brad

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      "MEN SHOULD NOT DECIDE WOMEN'S HEALTH!"
                                      "MEN SHOULD NOT DECIDE WOMEN'S HEALTH!"
                                      "MEN SHOULD NOT DECIDE WOMEN'S HEALTH!"
                                      "MEN SHOULD NOT DECIDE WOMEN'S HEALTH!"

                                      What's a woman? Are they biologists now?

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                                      @George-K said in RIP Roe:

                                      "MEN SHOULD NOT DECIDE WOMEN'S HEALTH!"
                                      "MEN SHOULD NOT DECIDE WOMEN'S HEALTH!"
                                      "MEN SHOULD NOT DECIDE WOMEN'S HEALTH!"
                                      "MEN SHOULD NOT DECIDE WOMEN'S HEALTH!"

                                      What's a woman? Are they biologists now?

                                      But now that men can get pregnant, my opinion matters as much as theirs.

                                      The Brad

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                        @George-K said in RIP Roe:

                                        "MEN SHOULD NOT DECIDE WOMEN'S HEALTH!"
                                        "MEN SHOULD NOT DECIDE WOMEN'S HEALTH!"
                                        "MEN SHOULD NOT DECIDE WOMEN'S HEALTH!"
                                        "MEN SHOULD NOT DECIDE WOMEN'S HEALTH!"

                                        What's a woman? Are they biologists now?

                                        But now that men can get pregnant, my opinion matters as much as theirs.

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                                        @LuFins-Dad said in RIP Roe:

                                        @George-K said in RIP Roe:

                                        "MEN SHOULD NOT DECIDE WOMEN'S HEALTH!"
                                        "MEN SHOULD NOT DECIDE WOMEN'S HEALTH!"
                                        "MEN SHOULD NOT DECIDE WOMEN'S HEALTH!"
                                        "MEN SHOULD NOT DECIDE WOMEN'S HEALTH!"

                                        What's a woman? Are they biologists now?

                                        But now that men can get pregnant, my opinion matters as much as theirs.

                                        There are an assload of people in this country who (1) think biology is physical, not a choice, (2) are critical of trans "rights" and (3) are adamant Roe supporters.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                          Horace
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                                          Probably a good thing if those who feel super strongly about the right to choose, move to states which share their belief.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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