The Ukraine war thread
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wrote on 29 Apr 2022, 22:22 last edited by
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wrote on 29 Apr 2022, 22:32 last edited by
@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
click to showWell, he is something of a free loader.
LOL. Gotta admire that, in kind of a perverse way.
But, to my point...what was the goal of Anne, "The Biden laptop didn't interest me", Applebaum mentioning it at all? In the midst of a really, really, great essay, she shows her partisans bias, making one question how invested she is in the truth vs the ideology to which she subscribes. When a "reporter" ignores what is a potentially interesting and important story, it really, really, undermines the credibility of the reporter.
It's a great essay, with a wonderful focus on history, politics, etc.
But...she just HAD to get that in, didn't she?
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@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
click to showWell, he is something of a free loader.
LOL. Gotta admire that, in kind of a perverse way.
But, to my point...what was the goal of Anne, "The Biden laptop didn't interest me", Applebaum mentioning it at all? In the midst of a really, really, great essay, she shows her partisans bias, making one question how invested she is in the truth vs the ideology to which she subscribes. When a "reporter" ignores what is a potentially interesting and important story, it really, really, undermines the credibility of the reporter.
It's a great essay, with a wonderful focus on history, politics, etc.
But...she just HAD to get that in, didn't she?
wrote on 29 Apr 2022, 22:50 last edited by@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
click to showWell, he is something of a free loader.
LOL. Gotta admire that, in kind of a perverse way.
But, to my point...what was the goal of Anne, "The Biden laptop didn't interest me", Applebaum mentioning it at all? In the midst of a really, really, great essay, she shows her partisans bias, making one question how invested she is in the truth vs the ideology to which she subscribes. When a "reporter" ignores what is a potentially interesting and important story, it really, really, undermines the credibility of the reporter.
It's a great essay, with a wonderful focus on history, politics, etc.
But...she just HAD to get that in, didn't she?
It was a good point. The strategy was employed most by Trump than any other head of office.
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@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Renauda said in The Ukraine war thread:
@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
click to showWell, he is something of a free loader.
LOL. Gotta admire that, in kind of a perverse way.
But, to my point...what was the goal of Anne, "The Biden laptop didn't interest me", Applebaum mentioning it at all? In the midst of a really, really, great essay, she shows her partisans bias, making one question how invested she is in the truth vs the ideology to which she subscribes. When a "reporter" ignores what is a potentially interesting and important story, it really, really, undermines the credibility of the reporter.
It's a great essay, with a wonderful focus on history, politics, etc.
But...she just HAD to get that in, didn't she?
It was a good point. The strategy was employed most by Trump than any other head of office.
wrote on 29 Apr 2022, 22:56 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:
It was a good point. The strategy was employed most by Trump than any other head of office.
"If I had a son, he would look like..."
"If you like your doctor..."
C'mon, man!
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@Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:
It was a good point. The strategy was employed most by Trump than any other head of office.
"If I had a son, he would look like..."
"If you like your doctor..."
C'mon, man!
wrote on 29 Apr 2022, 22:59 last edited by@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:
It was a good point. The strategy was employed most by Trump than any other head of office.
"If I had a son, he would look like..."
"If you like your doctor..."
C'mon, man!
The volume and the not even trying to justify it. That was her point. Not the lying itself.
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wrote on 29 Apr 2022, 23:01 last edited by
The closest we've come in recent American culture to watching a dehumanization eagerly accepted by the masses and propagated by the levers of power, was the dehumanization campaign levied against Trump supporters. The effectiveness of that campaign comes through in the clear good vs evil perspective this journalist continues to have, of that most important culture war of her lifetime. It's not so much that it's wrong to say Trump lied a lot, but one does not have to use it to slippery slope him into genocidal regimes. Though of course that slippery slope framing was believed and propagated by these same journalists since 2016. These are the people to whom January 6 was a profoundly cathartic I Told You So, and why it serves them so deeply to think of it and communicate about it in the most histrionic and severe terms possible.
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wrote on 30 Apr 2022, 00:25 last edited by
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wrote on 30 Apr 2022, 11:51 last edited by
11' 8"
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wrote on 30 Apr 2022, 18:30 last edited by
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The gang that couldn't shoot straight.
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wrote on 30 Apr 2022, 20:08 last edited by
Fairly decent short op-Ed on the failure of Russian geopolitics:
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/04/27/russias-catastrophic-geopolitics-a77505
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wrote on 1 May 2022, 12:41 last edited by
Apparently Russia is getting hacked at an unprecedented rate.
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wrote on 1 May 2022, 13:36 last edited by
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@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Renauda thanks for that. Chilling and informative.
click to showHow is she wrong? That's not what he did?
wrote on 1 May 2022, 13:51 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in The Ukraine war thread:
@George-K said in The Ukraine war thread:
@Renauda thanks for that. Chilling and informative.
click to showHow is she wrong? That's not what he did?
Yep, she's wrong. I've seen more blatant lies from The Resident than from Trump, but I didn't see Biden mentioned in the same breath as Putin or the Anti-Christ.
When I see a goofy paragraph such as the Trump linkage, I usually quit reading the article, as the piece can now be viewed through the writer's prism. In a piece about Russia, why go out of your way to bash Trump and no other POTUS or politician? It makes a piece touted as unbiased, immediately biased. She just gave half of her audience the middle finger.
I find a lot of unexplainable Trump fear among the chattering class on the coasts, even today.
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wrote on 1 May 2022, 16:34 last edited by
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-april-30
April 30, 5:15pm ET
Further Russian reinforcements to the Izyum axis are unlikely to enable stalled Russian forces to achieve substantial advances. Elements of unspecified Eastern Military District units and several air-defense assets are reportedly deploying from Belgorod to the Izyum front to support likely degraded Russian units attempting to advance south of the city. These forces are unlikely to enable Russian forces to break the current deadlock, as Russian attacks remain confined to two major highways (toward Slovyansk and Barvinkove) and cannot leverage greater numbers. Several successful Ukrainian counterattacks out of Kharkiv city in the last 72 hours have additionally recaptured a ring of suburbs north and east of the city and may additionally force Russian forces to redeploy units intended for the Izyum axis to hold these positions. Russian forces appear increasingly unlikely to achieve any major advances in eastern Ukraine, and Ukrainian forces may be able to conduct wider counterattacks in the coming days.
Key Takeaways
- A Ukrainian counteroffensive out of Kharkiv City will likely alleviate pressure on parts of the city that have suffered the most from Russian shelling and may force Russian troops from Izyum to re-deploy northward to support forces maintaining the partial encirclement of Kharkiv.
- Additional Russian forces are deploying to the Izyum front but are unlikely to enable any major advances.
- Russian troops did not make any confirmed advances to the southwest or southeast of Izyum or to the west of the Donetsk-Luhansk frontline.
- Russian forces in Kherson are pausing major offensive operations to improve their tactical positions and regroup to prepare for a renewed offensive to capture the administrative borders of Kherson.
- Russian occupation forces in Mariupol announced plans to consolidate their control over the city and intend to return Ukrainian citizens forcibly deported into Russia at some point in the future.
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wrote on 1 May 2022, 16:36 last edited by
Current conservative estimates are at least 15,000 Russian KIA. Assuming three times that number are wounded, we're looking at a total loss of 60K Russian soldiers. Then, add the POWs.
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wrote on 1 May 2022, 19:11 last edited by
If I could stop all the violence going on in Ukraine right now (as well as violence anywhere else in the world, for that matter), I would.
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I think Putin would be crazy to have his military attack one or more NATO nations because I don't think his military is ready to take on NATO forces.
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I think Putin would be crazy to have his military attack one or more NATO nations because I don't think his military is ready to take on NATO forces.
wrote on 1 May 2022, 22:30 last edited by@MainerMikeBrown said in The Ukraine war thread:
I think Putin would be crazy to have his military attack one or more NATO nations because I don't think his military is ready to take on NATO forces.
His military wasn’t ready to take on Ukrainian forces. What Putin seems to do best is kick the shit out of any of his own people who disagree with him and persuade the rest of them that it’s for their own good.