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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    #243

    I’ve heard a lot of people, seemingly intelligent and knowledgeable ones, claim that if you scratch the surface of Musk, he has at best mediocre technical chops. I wonder about the truth of that.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      jon-nyc
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      #244

      Well I assume that’s true and that Isaacson being a journalist doesn’t really know the difference between him asking questions/running the meeting and trying to solve it himself.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • JollyJ Jolly

        $64 question: In 12 months, how much effect will Musk have on the Twitter profit/loss line?

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        @Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

        $64 question: In 12 months, how much effect will Musk have on the Twitter profit/loss line?

        He says it’s not about money for him but I think he will tire of subsidizing it at some point and try to improve the cash flow.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          @Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

          $64 question: In 12 months, how much effect will Musk have on the Twitter profit/loss line?

          He says it’s not about money for him but I think he will tire of subsidizing it at some point and try to improve the cash flow.

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          #246

          @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

          @Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

          $64 question: In 12 months, how much effect will Musk have on the Twitter profit/loss line?

          He says it’s not about money for him but I think he will tire of subsidizing it at some point and try to improve the cash flow.

          he could bleed that for a century and not notice... (unless of course his stock tanked)...

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            #247

            Yes an no, he has a lot of assets but selling them results in a big tax liability which would probably grate over time.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • George KG Offline
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              "If I had enough money, instead of buying Twitter, I'd buy a 3 bedroom, 1 bath house in San Francisco."

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                "If I had enough money, instead of buying Twitter, I'd buy a 3 bedroom, 1 bath house in San Francisco."

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                @George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                "If I had enough money, instead of buying Twitter, I'd buy a 3 bedroom, 1 bath house in San Francisco."

                All good comedy has an element of truth.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @George-K said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                  "If I had enough money, instead of buying Twitter, I'd buy a 3 bedroom, 1 bath house in San Francisco."

                  All good comedy has an element of truth.

                  George KG Offline
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                  #250

                  @Jolly said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                  All good comedy has an element of truth.

                  ...and pathos.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #251

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                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      #252

                      One of the talking heads on CNN just lamented that Elon Musk could now influence elections by deplatforming candidates or by manipulating the algorithms to suppress news stories damaging to other candidates…

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        One of the talking heads on CNN just lamented that Elon Musk could now influence elections by deplatforming candidates or by manipulating the algorithms to suppress news stories damaging to other candidates…

                        HoraceH Offline
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #253

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                        One of the talking heads on CNN just lamented that Elon Musk could now influence elections by deplatforming candidates or by manipulating the algorithms to suppress news stories damaging to other candidates…

                        The fact that they unapologetically and righteously did exactly that, must make the fear all the more real in their minds. Terrified of their own shadow.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          Read a couple of interesting reactions:

                          1. Jack Dorsey, former CEO and founder of Twitter, now openly says he thinks Musk buying Twitter is a very good thing. (Dorsey stands to cash close to $1 Billion from this buyout, but no, I don’t think Dorsey says this because of the money; the guy is rich enough that he doesn’t need to lie for cash.)

                          2. Jeff Bezos brought up the possibility of the CCP leveraging Tesla to influence Musk on Twitter’s policies regarding China — the theory being that because Tesla relies on much of its production in China, the CCP can hold Tesla hostage to force Musk to make Twitter give China-related content special treatments.

                          George KG Offline
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                          @Axtremus said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                          1. Jeff Bezos brought up the possibility of the CCP leveraging Tesla to influence Musk on Twitter’s policies regarding China — the theory being that because Tesla relies on much of its production in China, the CCP can hold Tesla hostage to force Musk to make Twitter give China-related content special treatments.

                          Bezos launches China conspiracy theory

                          Bezos’ commentary on Tesla’s relationship with China is peculiar given a Reuters investigation in December that found Amazon had capitulated to demands from China to continue doing business and grow the company there.

                          In addition, some 38% of Amazon's top-selling brands are based in China, a report from the firm Daxue Consulting found late last year.

                          And, in 2019, the Washington Post – which Bezos bought in 2013 – included an eight-page "advertising supplement" touting the achievements and talking points of the Chinese government in a section that was off-limits to the paper’s editors.

                          Special Report: Amazon partnered with China propaganda arm

                          Amazon.com Inc was marketing a collection of President Xi Jinping's speeches and writings on its Chinese website about two years ago, when Beijing delivered an edict, according to two people familiar with the incident. The American e-commerce giant must stop allowing any customer ratings and reviews in China.

                          A negative review of Xi's book prompted the demand, one of the people said. "I think the issue was anything under five stars," the highest rating in Amazon's five-point system, said the other person.

                          Ratings and reviews are a crucial part of Amazon's e-commerce business, a major way of engaging shoppers. But Amazon complied, the two people said. Currently, on its Chinese site Amazon.cn, the government-published book has no customer reviews or any ratings. And the comments section is disabled.

                          "And the comments section is disabled."

                          At least Amazon doesn't die in darkness, right?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            #255

                            George - how is that a conspiracy theory?

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • HoraceH Offline
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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #256

                              TSLA was down 12% today. That means Musk lost almost as much today as Twitter is costing him.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                George - how is that a conspiracy theory?

                                George KG Offline
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                                #257

                                @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                George - how is that a conspiracy theory?

                                In the article:

                                Amazon founder and former CEO Jeff Bezos on Monday mulled whether China has gained leverage over what happens on Twitter now that Tesla CEO Elon Musk has secured a $44 billion deal with the social media company.

                                "Interesting question. Did the Chinese government just gain a bit of leverage of the town square?" Bezos tweeted in response to a New York Times reporter who noted Tesla’s reliance on China for its large market and lithium batteries.

                                The reporter noted that Tesla's second-biggest market after the U.S. in 2021 was China and that Chinese battery makers are major suppliers for Tesla's electric vehicles. He also noted that when China banned Twitter in 2009, the government "had almost no leverage over the platform." He then suggested that, due to Musk's acquisition, "That may have just changed."

                                "Conspiracy theory?" Perhaps not. But, it reiterates what Ax said in his comment earlier.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Please love yourself.

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                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      Axtremus
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                                      #260

                                      @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

                                      Pffftttt … as if Morgan Stanley is going to lend anyone billions of dollars to tackle world poverty.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Elon Musk buys a big chunk of Twitter:

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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • JollyJ Offline
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                                          #262

                                          The interesting part about all the crying and rending of cloth, is that Musk is only taking Twitter back to what it originally was...

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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