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Buh-bye Bruce

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/bruce-arians-stunningly-steps-down-as-tampa-bay-buccaneers-head-coach-todd-bowles-named-successor/ar-AAVH3dd?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=dcfef5e8383f4bfc927acd2693710b17

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      I’ve got a Brady theory. I don’t think he retires until Jimmy Garropolo is either retired or a back up QB somewhere. I think he wants one last flip of the bird to Belichek who drafted Garropolo as Brady’s replacement.

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        I’ve got a Brady theory. I don’t think he retires until Jimmy Garropolo is either retired or a back up QB somewhere. I think he wants one last flip of the bird to Belichek who drafted Garropolo as Brady’s replacement.

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        @LuFins-Dad said in Buh-bye Bruce:

        I’ve got a Brady theory. I don’t think he retires until Jimmy Garropolo is either retired or a back up QB somewhere. I think he wants one last flip of the bird to Belichek who drafted Garropolo as Brady’s replacement.

        Tom can be petty... Besides, everybody knew Tom had told Bruce to go piss up a tree with the No-Riskit-No-Biskit offense, and installed a lot of the old Patriot offense.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • Catseye3C Offline
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          I think we're not getting the whole story, for sure. Brady returns, everybody is jubilant, yet Bucco is gone ten minutes later?

          It's hard to get past the fact that for what, eight years?, the Bucs didn't do much until two years ago when, coincidentally, Brady arrived on the scene and they become a force. It's Arians this, Arians that. Why wasn't it happening before Brady?

          (And why were the owners putting up with a nothing performance for so long? That kind of sticks in my craw, too. Did they have some motive other than collecting Lombardis for owning a football team?)

          The kindest interpretation I can put on it is this: When Brady retired, Arians realized he, Brady, took Arians' last chance at another Super Bowl with him, and he made arrangements to spend his sunset years in the head office. Then Brady returns and it's too late to undo those arrangements. He, Arians, would look like a doofus if he suddenly backed up the train and went back to HC -- even if he could.

          I have no idea if there's any truth to that, but I'd love to have been a fly on the wall throughout the Brady-returns phone convos.

          There may be something to LuFin's Garapolo theory. Brady has a way of forgetting he's talking before an audience and he'll say things he shouldn't. Hence the "mofo" comment. I'm not super convinced his sole motivation is doing in Garapolo or even Belichick. He has a well-established life in Tampa, his kids are close to an age where extreme alterations in circumstances are more consequential; extricating from his complex lifestyle would not be simple. I don't know that shafting Garapolo would be worth all that to him.

          I also think it's possible that his father spoke the truth when he shot off his big mouth -- not for the first time -- and claimed Brady felt forced to quit when those reporters mistakenly announced he was quitting, when he otherwise wouldn't have. Then he regretted it. Brady's weakness, IMO, is that he allows himself to be shoved around by things other people say and do. This is frustrating because he totaly doesn't have to do that! But anyway.

          So yeah, there's been some theater going on.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            This comment from a JoeBucsFan Commenter:

            "The Boston Media said that Arians had a terrible work ethic, and this, among other things, really got on Brady’s nerves.
            Brady is an ultra perfectionist workaholic, and did not feel Tampa could win with Arians, and refused to play here anymore, unless he was gone."

            I can work with this. Toward the end of the season, the Bucs weren't doing so hot. They missed going to the SB by almost nothing. Brady took them almost all the way despite many obstacles. Maybe the sportswriters' booboo anent Brady's retirement gave him the idea to retire and get away from an unworkable (in his mind) relationship with Arians; he didn't want to struggle through another go-nowhere season. Then he realized he wasn't ready to stop playing. Meanwhile ticket sales tanked (no Brady) and management got to dickering with Brady and voila. According to another JBF Commenter, Arians was leaving next year, anyway.

            Something like that.

            Whatever happened, there's a flavor of deception around the whole business that makes me feel bad.

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              I am sure Brady has a particular taste for asserting dominance over his coaches.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                I am sure Brady has a particular taste for asserting dominance over his coaches.

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                @Horace Another Commenter wrote that Brady likes to be "coached hard", that if he isn't coached hard he loses respect.

                🤷

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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