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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @Improviso said in Return to Work Bonus:

    You want to stay at home? Fine. But you're not going to continue to suck on the government tit.

    Or you could work remotely? Why in the hell is that not given as an option when it's feasible?

    I've been working remotely for the past 3 months. That all ends the minute they open the office back up, and everyone who's uncomfortable with that will lose their job. They already fired my co-worker for asking to work remotely beyond that date, and it hasn't even been set yet. Tell me how that makes any fucking sense.

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    @Aqua-Letifer said in Return to Work Bonus:

    @Improviso said in Return to Work Bonus:

    You want to stay at home? Fine. But you're not going to continue to suck on the government tit.

    Or you could work remotely? Why in the hell is that not given as an option when it's feasible?

    I've been working remotely for the past 3 months. That all ends the minute they open the office back up, and everyone who's uncomfortable with that will lose their job. They already fired my co-worker for asking to work remotely beyond that date, and it hasn't even been set yet. Tell me how that makes any fucking sense.

    C'mon man... you know exactly who I was talking about. I didn't think I needed to explain that.

    You, personally, are working at home and receiving a paycheck. I think that's great. I would hope your employer would see that remote working does work, but that's up to them.

    The people I was talking about were people who were laid off due to the business closing. These people are collecting unemployment compensation (state and federal) that amounts to more than they were making while working. And they have decided to not accept the offer to return to work because they are making more by staying at home. In my mind, that is milking the system. It should not be rewarded.

    We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
    Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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    • ImprovisoI Improviso

      @Aqua-Letifer said in Return to Work Bonus:

      @Improviso said in Return to Work Bonus:

      You want to stay at home? Fine. But you're not going to continue to suck on the government tit.

      Or you could work remotely? Why in the hell is that not given as an option when it's feasible?

      I've been working remotely for the past 3 months. That all ends the minute they open the office back up, and everyone who's uncomfortable with that will lose their job. They already fired my co-worker for asking to work remotely beyond that date, and it hasn't even been set yet. Tell me how that makes any fucking sense.

      C'mon man... you know exactly who I was talking about. I didn't think I needed to explain that.

      You, personally, are working at home and receiving a paycheck. I think that's great. I would hope your employer would see that remote working does work, but that's up to them.

      The people I was talking about were people who were laid off due to the business closing. These people are collecting unemployment compensation (state and federal) that amounts to more than they were making while working. And they have decided to not accept the offer to return to work because they are making more by staying at home. In my mind, that is milking the system. It should not be rewarded.

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      @Improviso said in Return to Work Bonus:

      @Aqua-Letifer said in Return to Work Bonus:

      @Improviso said in Return to Work Bonus:

      You want to stay at home? Fine. But you're not going to continue to suck on the government tit.

      Or you could work remotely? Why in the hell is that not given as an option when it's feasible?

      I've been working remotely for the past 3 months. That all ends the minute they open the office back up, and everyone who's uncomfortable with that will lose their job. They already fired my co-worker for asking to work remotely beyond that date, and it hasn't even been set yet. Tell me how that makes any fucking sense.

      C'mon man... you know exactly who I was talking about. I didn't think I needed to explain that.

      You, personally, are working at home and receiving a paycheck. I think that's great. I would hope your employer would see that remote working does work, but that's up to them.

      The people I was talking about were people who were laid off due to the business closing. These people are collecting unemployment compensation (state and federal) that amounts to more than they were making while working. And they have decided to not accept the offer to return to work because they are making more by staying at home. In my mind, that is milking the system. It should not be rewarded.

      Fully agree. I understand why they rolled it out that way--trying to not make the mistake around 2008 with delays in payment--but it creates a whole set of new problems.

      But seriously, I'm likely gonna get canned in about two weeks (or I might have more time, I dunno) because I can't trust my co-workers and managers to not be asshats about this. A lot of other people are in the same position: a combination of businesses thinking they can just return to normal with no safeguards, and not being flexible with how they stay open. Guarantee you there's going to be another influx of cases from that. And unemployment benefits as a lot of folks are going to get laid off for missing over a month of work in the hospital.

      Please love yourself.

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      • ImprovisoI Improviso

        When an employer offers an employee their job back and the employee refuses, the employer should be required to report the refusal to the unemployment commission. Unemployment benefits should then be terminated for that employee.

        You want to stay at home? Fine. But you're not going to continue to suck on the government tit.

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        @Improviso said in Return to Work Bonus:

        When an employer offers an employee their job back and the employee refuses, the employer should be required to report the refusal to the unemployment commission. Unemployment benefits should then be terminated for that employee.

        I thought this was already what was required. It certainly makes sense. (though there are exceptions as Aqua points out), but in general, if you can get a job, there is no reason you should be on unemployment.

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          Employers have to be careful about burning bridges. It took me three years to build and train the staff that I have. I have no time or inclination to start from zero again. By going and reporting these guys, I am immediately causing an awful lot of hard feelings that likely can't be repaired. It's not a good situation...

          The Brad

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          • MikM Away
            MikM Away
            Mik
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            Not to mention that you don't gain a single thing from it. It's just vengeful.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              Employers have to be careful about burning bridges. It took me three years to build and train the staff that I have. I have no time or inclination to start from zero again. By going and reporting these guys, I am immediately causing an awful lot of hard feelings that likely can't be repaired. It's not a good situation...

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              @LuFins-Dad said in Return to Work Bonus:

              Employers have to be careful about burning bridges.

              Coulda fooled me.

              Please love yourself.

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              • MikM Away
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                Well, they don't HAVE to. But they should. I know a lot of organizations who were crippled by getting a rep as a bad place to work.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  Not to mention that you don't gain a single thing from it. It's just vengeful.

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                  @Mik said in Return to Work Bonus:

                  Not to mention that you don't gain a single thing from it.

                  How does unemployment work as a business owner? I assume you pay a certain amount per employee into the system?

                  If you have to release an employee and they file for unemployment, they are not filing against the business owner, right?

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                  • MikM Away
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                    Mik
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                    It's different in every state. Right now the bulk of the payments are coming from the federal government.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      Where I'm at, employers pay into something called unemployment insurance, which is administered by the state. Now, as former employees begin filing for unemployment from our company, our rates do still go up.

                      The Brad

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