Adams and Lightfoot
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@taiwan_girl said in Adams and Lightfoot:
And the press release from the other side:
On a statewide per capita base
(Before anybody gets to excited, i realize that there are a lot of variables which do not take account.
I am posting this more "tongue in cheek")
Don’t know where you got that, but it’s significantly wrong.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/murder-rate-by-state
Louisiana (12.4 per 100k)
Missouri (9.8 per 100k)
Nevada (9.1 per 100k)
Maryland (9 per 100k)
Arkansas (8.6 per 100k)
Alaska (8.4 per 100k)
Alabama (8.3 per 100k)
Mississippi (8.2 per 100k)
Illinois (7.8 per 100k)
South Carolina (7.8 per 100k))Now, beyond that, take a look at Louisiana as an example. Yes, it voted Trump. It also has a Democrat governor… Who do you think has a bigger impact on crime in that state? Beyond that, take New Orleans and Baton Rouge out of the mix, and Louisiana has one of the lowest murder rates in the country. Now would you care to wager what party the mayors and the majority of the city councils belong to in both cities? And double down on how long both those cities have been under single party control?
The same holds true for pretty much every state on the list.
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@taiwan_girl said in Adams and Lightfoot:
And the press release from the other side:
On a statewide per capita base
(Before anybody gets to excited, i realize that there are a lot of variables which do not take account.
I am posting this more "tongue in cheek")
Don’t know where you got that, but it’s significantly wrong.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/murder-rate-by-state
Louisiana (12.4 per 100k)
Missouri (9.8 per 100k)
Nevada (9.1 per 100k)
Maryland (9 per 100k)
Arkansas (8.6 per 100k)
Alaska (8.4 per 100k)
Alabama (8.3 per 100k)
Mississippi (8.2 per 100k)
Illinois (7.8 per 100k)
South Carolina (7.8 per 100k))Now, beyond that, take a look at Louisiana as an example. Yes, it voted Trump. It also has a Democrat governor… Who do you think has a bigger impact on crime in that state? Beyond that, take New Orleans and Baton Rouge out of the mix, and Louisiana has one of the lowest murder rates in the country. Now would you care to wager what party the mayors and the majority of the city councils belong to in both cities? And double down on how long both those cities have been under single party control?
The same holds true for pretty much every state on the list.
@LuFins-Dad As I said, I was post somewhat "tongue in cheek". But again, like many things, people (in general) seem to make politics a very balck and white. Follow this side, world will be utopia. Follow this side, world will be hell.
Below is the data I got from.
"We pulled the data from yearly crime reports released by state governments, specifically the Departments of Justice and Safety."
state party population 2020 murder 2020 per capita
MS red 2976000 610 20.50
LA red 4649000 734 15.79
KY red 4468000 640 14.32
AL red 4903000 696 14.2
MO red 6137000 859 14.00
SC red 5149000 552 10.72
NM blue 2097000 224 10.7
GA blue 10620000 1115 10.5
AR red 3011524 310 10.29
TN red 6886834 682 9.90
IL blue 12670000 1166 9.20
MD blue 6046000 553 9.15
NC red 10490000 803 7.65
DE blue 973764 74 7.60
MI blue 9987000 750 7.51
IN red 6732000 505 7.50
OK red 3957000 287 7.25
PA blue 12800000 924 7.22
OH red 11690000 818 7
TX red 29000000 1927 6.64
KS red 2937880 193 6.57
AK red 731545 48 6.56
WV red 1792000 117 6.53
VA blue 8631393 528 6.12
FL red 21538187 1285 5.97
NV blue 3104614 184 5.93
AZ blue 7279000 423 5.81
CA blue 39370000 2202 5.59
SD red 886667 49 5.53
CO blue 5842076 300 5.14
WI blue 5893718 302 5.12
MT red 1080577 50 4.63
NY blue 20201249 831 4.11
ND red 779094 32 4.11
CT blue 3565000 143 4.01
WY red 576851 23 3.99
WA blue 7656200 302 3.94
NJ blue 8882000 329 3.70
NE red 1961504 70 3.57
IA red 3155000 110 3.49
RI blue 1057125 32 3.03
HI blue 1416000 41 2.90
OR blue 4218000 122 2.89
MN blue 6890000 185 2.69
UT red 3206000 81 2.53
MA blue 6890000 168 2.44
VT blue 623989 14 2.2
ID red 1839106 39 2.12
ME blue 1344000 22 1.64
NH blue 1360000 12 0.88 -
He probably meant a citywide initiative to capture sunsets perfectly aligned with streets. Studies show that one of the few things capable of diverting attention from loud popping noises followed by bodies strewn about street corners, is the splendor of the sunset framed by a quieting cityscape as it winds down the day. This results in fewer reported murders.
@Horace said in Adams and Lightfoot:
He probably meant a citywide initiative to capture sunsets perfectly aligned with streets. Studies show that one of the few things capable of diverting attention from loud popping noises followed by bodies strewn about street corners, is the splendor of the sunset framed by a quieting cityscape as it winds down the day. This results in fewer reported murders.
Manhattanhenge has been around for a quarter century. Chicagohenge doesn’t even have a Wikipedia page.
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You are both wrong(maybe), here is what CDC says
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm
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@LuFins-Dad As I said, I was post somewhat "tongue in cheek". But again, like many things, people (in general) seem to make politics a very balck and white. Follow this side, world will be utopia. Follow this side, world will be hell.
Below is the data I got from.
"We pulled the data from yearly crime reports released by state governments, specifically the Departments of Justice and Safety."
state party population 2020 murder 2020 per capita
MS red 2976000 610 20.50
LA red 4649000 734 15.79
KY red 4468000 640 14.32
AL red 4903000 696 14.2
MO red 6137000 859 14.00
SC red 5149000 552 10.72
NM blue 2097000 224 10.7
GA blue 10620000 1115 10.5
AR red 3011524 310 10.29
TN red 6886834 682 9.90
IL blue 12670000 1166 9.20
MD blue 6046000 553 9.15
NC red 10490000 803 7.65
DE blue 973764 74 7.60
MI blue 9987000 750 7.51
IN red 6732000 505 7.50
OK red 3957000 287 7.25
PA blue 12800000 924 7.22
OH red 11690000 818 7
TX red 29000000 1927 6.64
KS red 2937880 193 6.57
AK red 731545 48 6.56
WV red 1792000 117 6.53
VA blue 8631393 528 6.12
FL red 21538187 1285 5.97
NV blue 3104614 184 5.93
AZ blue 7279000 423 5.81
CA blue 39370000 2202 5.59
SD red 886667 49 5.53
CO blue 5842076 300 5.14
WI blue 5893718 302 5.12
MT red 1080577 50 4.63
NY blue 20201249 831 4.11
ND red 779094 32 4.11
CT blue 3565000 143 4.01
WY red 576851 23 3.99
WA blue 7656200 302 3.94
NJ blue 8882000 329 3.70
NE red 1961504 70 3.57
IA red 3155000 110 3.49
RI blue 1057125 32 3.03
HI blue 1416000 41 2.90
OR blue 4218000 122 2.89
MN blue 6890000 185 2.69
UT red 3206000 81 2.53
MA blue 6890000 168 2.44
VT blue 623989 14 2.2
ID red 1839106 39 2.12
ME blue 1344000 22 1.64
NH blue 1360000 12 0.88@taiwan_girl said in Adams and Lightfoot:
@LuFins-Dad As I said, I was post somewhat "tongue in cheek". But again, like many things, people (in general) seem to make politics a very balck and white. Follow this side, world will be utopia. Follow this side, world will be hell.
Below is the data I got from.
Now do cities.
ETA: which is basically what @LuFins-Dad said.
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@taiwan_girl said in Adams and Lightfoot:
@LuFins-Dad As I said, I was post somewhat "tongue in cheek". But again, like many things, people (in general) seem to make politics a very balck and white. Follow this side, world will be utopia. Follow this side, world will be hell.
Below is the data I got from.
Now do cities.
ETA: which is basically what @LuFins-Dad said.
@George-K George, you are absolutely right, but to play the "devil advocate", I would respond with:
If the states with the highest per capita murder rate voted more republican, then there is a good chance their gun laws are less strict.
So, by transitive property, easier gun laws lead to higher murder rates.
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@George-K George, you are absolutely right, but to play the "devil advocate", I would respond with:
If the states with the highest per capita murder rate voted more republican, then there is a good chance their gun laws are less strict.
So, by transitive property, easier gun laws lead to higher murder rates.
@taiwan_girl said in Adams and Lightfoot:
@George-K George, you are absolutely right, but to play the "devil advocate", I would respond with:
If the states with the highest per capita murder rate voted more republican, then there is a good chance their gun laws are less strict.
So, by transitive property, easier gun laws lead to higher murder rates.
But they don’t. As pointed out, the cities with the murder rates live in Democrat run cities. These are not state issues, but city issues.
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@taiwan_girl said in Adams and Lightfoot:
@George-K George, you are absolutely right, but to play the "devil advocate", I would respond with:
If the states with the highest per capita murder rate voted more republican, then there is a good chance their gun laws are less strict.
So, by transitive property, easier gun laws lead to higher murder rates.
But they don’t. As pointed out, the cities with the murder rates live in Democrat run cities. These are not state issues, but city issues.
@LuFins-Dad said in Adams and Lightfoot:
@taiwan_girl said in Adams and Lightfoot:
@George-K George, you are absolutely right, but to play the "devil advocate", I would respond with:
If the states with the highest per capita murder rate voted more republican, then there is a good chance their gun laws are less strict.
So, by transitive property, easier gun laws lead to higher murder rates.
But they don’t. As pointed out, the cities with the murder rates live in Democrat run cities. These are not state issues, but city issues and mostly in cities that have tighter gun laws. Your example is nonsensical. The rural areas lean Republican and tend to have looser gun laws and much less crime.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Adams and Lightfoot:
@taiwan_girl said in Adams and Lightfoot:
@George-K George, you are absolutely right, but to play the "devil advocate", I would respond with:
If the states with the highest per capita murder rate voted more republican, then there is a good chance their gun laws are less strict.
So, by transitive property, easier gun laws lead to higher murder rates.
But they don’t. As pointed out, the cities with the murder rates live in Democrat run cities. These are not state issues, but city issues and mostly in cities that have tighter gun laws. Your example is nonsensical. The rural areas lean Republican and tend to have looser gun laws and much less crime.
@LuFins-Dad said in Adams and Lightfoot:
But they don’t. As pointed out, the cities with the murder rates live in Democrat run cities. These are not state issues, but city issues and mostly in cities that have tighter gun laws. Your example is nonsensical. The rural areas lean Republican and tend to have looser gun laws and much less crime.
Chicago's gun laws are among the strictest in the country.
"Cum catapult proscripti erunt....
