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    Axtremus
    wrote on 21 Mar 2022, 21:34 last edited by
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/17/republicans-ukraine-aid-vote/

    More than two dozen Senate Republicans are demanding that President Biden do more to aid war-torn Ukraine and arm its forces against Russia’s brutal assault, after voting last week against $13.6 billion in military and humanitarian assistance for Ukraine. …

    As @Jolly is fond of saying, “don’t listen to what they say, look at what they do.”

    A bunch of examples in the article showing specific instances of Republican legislators spouting rhetorics about supporting Ukraine but then vote against actually supporting Ukraine anyway.

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    • A Axtremus
      21 Mar 2022, 21:34

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/17/republicans-ukraine-aid-vote/

      More than two dozen Senate Republicans are demanding that President Biden do more to aid war-torn Ukraine and arm its forces against Russia’s brutal assault, after voting last week against $13.6 billion in military and humanitarian assistance for Ukraine. …

      As @Jolly is fond of saying, “don’t listen to what they say, look at what they do.”

      A bunch of examples in the article showing specific instances of Republican legislators spouting rhetorics about supporting Ukraine but then vote against actually supporting Ukraine anyway.

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      George K
      wrote on 21 Mar 2022, 22:02 last edited by
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      @Axtremus Leader McConnell wanted a stand-alone bill to fund Ukrainian assistance, not part of the "omnibus" bill.

      Didn't make it to the floor, from what I understand.

      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-mitch-mcconnell-republicans-face-the-nation/

      McConnell said if he were majority leader, he would have brought the supplemental funding for Ukraine to the floor as a standalone bill and predicted "virtually every one of my members would've voted for it." Thirty-one Republican senators voted against the spending package that included the aid.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Mik
        wrote on 21 Mar 2022, 22:37 last edited by
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        In other words, we're not going to give you carte blanche spending riding on the coattails of public sentiment.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • A Axtremus
          21 Mar 2022, 21:34

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/17/republicans-ukraine-aid-vote/

          More than two dozen Senate Republicans are demanding that President Biden do more to aid war-torn Ukraine and arm its forces against Russia’s brutal assault, after voting last week against $13.6 billion in military and humanitarian assistance for Ukraine. …

          As @Jolly is fond of saying, “don’t listen to what they say, look at what they do.”

          A bunch of examples in the article showing specific instances of Republican legislators spouting rhetorics about supporting Ukraine but then vote against actually supporting Ukraine anyway.

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          Larry
          wrote on 21 Mar 2022, 23:43 last edited by
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          @Axtremus said in The GOP’s Russia/Putin Problem:

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/17/republicans-ukraine-aid-vote/

          More than two dozen Senate Republicans are demanding that President Biden do more to aid war-torn Ukraine and arm its forces against Russia’s brutal assault, after voting last week against $13.6 billion in military and humanitarian assistance for Ukraine. …

          As @Jolly is fond of saying, “don’t listen to what they say, look at what they do.”

          A bunch of examples in the article showing specific instances of Republican legislators spouting rhetorics about supporting Ukraine but then vote against actually supporting Ukraine anyway.

          Democrats: " we should support ukraine financially"
          Republicans "we should support Ukraine financially"

          Both "let's vote on it"

          Republicans : " we vote to spend x million dollars to support ukraine"

          Democrats:" we vote to spend x million dollars to support ukraine, but to get it Congress must also spend another x billion on climate change, another x million to study the sex habits of squirrels, x million for windmills, x million for solar panels..."

          Republicans: "no. We will not vote for that. Stick to giving aid to ukraine"

          Idiots like Ax: " see, proof republicans won't support ukraine"

          I honestly can't figure out if being stupid is a requirement to be a democrat, or if being a democrat makes you stupid.

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          • L Larry
            21 Mar 2022, 23:43

            @Axtremus said in The GOP’s Russia/Putin Problem:

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/17/republicans-ukraine-aid-vote/

            More than two dozen Senate Republicans are demanding that President Biden do more to aid war-torn Ukraine and arm its forces against Russia’s brutal assault, after voting last week against $13.6 billion in military and humanitarian assistance for Ukraine. …

            As @Jolly is fond of saying, “don’t listen to what they say, look at what they do.”

            A bunch of examples in the article showing specific instances of Republican legislators spouting rhetorics about supporting Ukraine but then vote against actually supporting Ukraine anyway.

            Democrats: " we should support ukraine financially"
            Republicans "we should support Ukraine financially"

            Both "let's vote on it"

            Republicans : " we vote to spend x million dollars to support ukraine"

            Democrats:" we vote to spend x million dollars to support ukraine, but to get it Congress must also spend another x billion on climate change, another x million to study the sex habits of squirrels, x million for windmills, x million for solar panels..."

            Republicans: "no. We will not vote for that. Stick to giving aid to ukraine"

            Idiots like Ax: " see, proof republicans won't support ukraine"

            I honestly can't figure out if being stupid is a requirement to be a democrat, or if being a democrat makes you stupid.

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            George K
            wrote on 22 Mar 2022, 00:07 last edited by
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            @Larry said in The GOP’s Russia/Putin Problem:

            @Axtremus said in The GOP’s Russia/Putin Problem:

            Democrats:" we vote to spend x million dollars to support ukraine, but to get it Congress must also spend another x billion on climate change, another x million to study the sex habits of squirrels, x million for windmills, x million for solar panels..."

            You misspelled "trillions."

            Several times.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • L Larry
              21 Mar 2022, 23:43

              @Axtremus said in The GOP’s Russia/Putin Problem:

              https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/17/republicans-ukraine-aid-vote/

              More than two dozen Senate Republicans are demanding that President Biden do more to aid war-torn Ukraine and arm its forces against Russia’s brutal assault, after voting last week against $13.6 billion in military and humanitarian assistance for Ukraine. …

              As @Jolly is fond of saying, “don’t listen to what they say, look at what they do.”

              A bunch of examples in the article showing specific instances of Republican legislators spouting rhetorics about supporting Ukraine but then vote against actually supporting Ukraine anyway.

              Democrats: " we should support ukraine financially"
              Republicans "we should support Ukraine financially"

              Both "let's vote on it"

              Republicans : " we vote to spend x million dollars to support ukraine"

              Democrats:" we vote to spend x million dollars to support ukraine, but to get it Congress must also spend another x billion on climate change, another x million to study the sex habits of squirrels, x million for windmills, x million for solar panels..."

              Republicans: "no. We will not vote for that. Stick to giving aid to ukraine"

              Idiots like Ax: " see, proof republicans won't support ukraine"

              I honestly can't figure out if being stupid is a requirement to be a democrat, or if being a democrat makes you stupid.

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 22 Mar 2022, 04:58 last edited by
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              @Larry said in The GOP’s Russia/Putin Problem:

              I honestly can't figure out if being stupid is a requirement to be a democrat, or if being a democrat makes you stupid.

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              • G George K
                21 Mar 2022, 22:02

                @Axtremus Leader McConnell wanted a stand-alone bill to fund Ukrainian assistance, not part of the "omnibus" bill.

                Didn't make it to the floor, from what I understand.

                https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-mitch-mcconnell-republicans-face-the-nation/

                McConnell said if he were majority leader, he would have brought the supplemental funding for Ukraine to the floor as a standalone bill and predicted "virtually every one of my members would've voted for it." Thirty-one Republican senators voted against the spending package that included the aid.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 22 Mar 2022, 11:10 last edited by
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                @George-K said in The GOP’s Russia/Putin Problem:

                McConnell said if he were majority leader, he would have brought the supplemental funding for Ukraine to the floor as a standalone bill and predicted "virtually every one of my members would've voted for it."

                Highly unlikely he would have done that. He would have seized the opportunity to get some other priorities thrown in just like Schumer did.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • J jon-nyc
                  22 Mar 2022, 11:10

                  @George-K said in The GOP’s Russia/Putin Problem:

                  McConnell said if he were majority leader, he would have brought the supplemental funding for Ukraine to the floor as a standalone bill and predicted "virtually every one of my members would've voted for it."

                  Highly unlikely he would have done that. He would have seized the opportunity to get some other priorities thrown in just like Schumer did.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 22 Mar 2022, 11:41 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in The GOP’s Russia/Putin Problem:

                  Highly unlikely he would have done that. He would have seized the opportunity to get some other priorities thrown in just like Schumer did.

                  No doubt.

                  Here's some of the other things those senators voted against:

                  • $1.6 million for the "development of equitable growth of shellfish aquaculture in Rhode Island."
                  • $3 million for a Gandhi museum in Houston
                  • $3 million for the Palo Alto History Museum
                  • $800,000 for "artist lofts" in Pomona, California

                  Supposedly Rick Scott pushed for a separate bill just limited to Ukraine.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 22 Mar 2022, 12:16 last edited by
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                    Both Reagan and Trump were smart enough to change parties.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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