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Let It Die?

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #5

    I agree it’s getting far more questionable with all the woke stuff and being too narrative driven. But it’s not dying.

    Don’t know about revenues but total readership is much higher now than when it was just a printed paper.

    The stock is even doing well. Not quite the highs of 20 years ago but recovering really well from a decade ago.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      #6

      Yeah - it's steadily inching up. But way down from its heyday. Good biz mgmt on their part.

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      But just "delivering the facts" is more of a commodity now than it was in the past.

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        Wonder what's in "other."

        Please love yourself.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          Wonder what's in "other."

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          @Aqua-Letifer Do New York Times license anything? I know some newspapers sell old copies to people that may want to remember a special date in history for example.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            Wonder what's in "other."

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            @Aqua-Letifer said in Let It Die?:

            Wonder what's in "other."

            George Soros.

            I was only joking

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              Wonder what's in "other."

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              @Aqua-Letifer said in Let It Die?:

              Wonder what's in "other."

              Online, they charge subscription to crossword puzzles and games separately. Maybe that's part of "other."

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                Could the NYT draw as many eyeballs without the fluff?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Could the NYT draw as many eyeballs without the fluff?

                  AxtremusA Offline
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                  @Jolly said in Let It Die?:

                  Could the NYT draw as many eyeballs without the fluff?

                  Can FoxNews draw as many eyeballs without the crazies?
                  Can the GOP win as many seats without gerrymandering?
                  Can Trump get as much attention without the stupid?
                  Mysteries!

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                  • MikM Away
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                    #13

                    There is still a lot to like in the NYT that you won't get in other papers. You just have to get past the front page.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      @Jolly said in Let It Die?:

                      Could the NYT draw as many eyeballs without the fluff?

                      Can FoxNews draw as many eyeballs without the crazies?
                      Can the GOP win as many seats without gerrymandering?
                      Can Trump get as much attention without the stupid?
                      Mysteries!

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                      @Axtremus said in Let It Die?:

                      @Jolly said in Let It Die?:

                      Could the NYT draw as many eyeballs without the fluff?

                      Can FoxNews draw as many eyeballs without the crazies?
                      Can the GOP win as many seats without gerrymandering?
                      Can Trump get as much attention without the stupid?
                      Mysteries!

                      In other words, you don't have a clue.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Could the NYT draw as many eyeballs without the fluff?

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                        @Jolly said in Let It Die?:

                        Could the NYT draw as many eyeballs without the fluff?

                        No. The fluff brings in the money you need to do actual journalism, at a ratio of about 1:10: for every ten stories of crap, you can do something decent. A big problem is social media. Folks sharing links on Facebook, Twitter, and hell, even here, is a huge driving factor in the increase in subscriptions.

                        A very certain kind of story does well on social media. And it's not journalism.

                        Please love yourself.

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