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  • JollyJ Jolly

    Well, they won't be sources long...

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    @Jolly said in Three Attempted Hits:

    Well, they won't be sources long...

    What possible good comes of broadcasting any of this? It should all be top secret.

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      Propaganda.

      But you're burning your sources (if what they said was true).

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        Propaganda.

        But you're burning your sources (if what they said was true).

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        @Jolly said in Three Attempted Hits:

        Propaganda.

        But you're burning your sources (if what they said was true).

        Propaganda is supposed to help your efforts, not hinder them. Didn’t they get the memo?

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          You guys really believe this? Personally, I think Ukraine is just piling BS on top of BS in trying to win the hearts and minds of the west and to inflate the confidence of their people while demoralizing their opponents. It’s working, but most of it’s BS.

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            You guys really believe this? Personally, I think Ukraine is just piling BS on top of BS in trying to win the hearts and minds of the west and to inflate the confidence of their people while demoralizing their opponents. It’s working, but most of it’s BS.

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            @LuFins-Dad said in Three Attempted Hits:

            You guys really believe this? Personally, I think Ukraine is just piling BS on top of BS in trying to win the hearts and minds of the west and to inflate the confidence of their people while demoralizing their opponents. It’s working, but most of it’s BS.

            "The first casualty of war..."

            But you may well be right.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              You guys really believe this? Personally, I think Ukraine is just piling BS on top of BS in trying to win the hearts and minds of the west and to inflate the confidence of their people while demoralizing their opponents. It’s working, but most of it’s BS.

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              @LuFins-Dad said in Three Attempted Hits:

              You guys really believe this? Personally, I think Ukraine is just piling BS on top of BS in trying to win the hearts and minds of the west and to inflate the confidence of their people while demoralizing their opponents. It’s working, but most of it’s BS.

              Note the caveat.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Look at The Ghost of Kyiv thing. An urban legend starts based on an edited video game clip, then the Ukrainian government jumps in and starts feeding the flames so to speak with a picture that was from 6 years ago and then other photos that didn’t pass the sniff test…

                I’m not saying they aren’t doing an admirable job in defense and I’m not saying he didn’t face assassination attempts, but I do think things are beyond a mild exaggeration…

                For now the world wants to believe it. I know hard core leftists that want to ban all guns in the US cheering the Ukrainians for handing out AK-47’s… but I do wonder if there will be repercussions when everyone finds out they were manipulated?

                The Brad

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                • George KG George K

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Three Attempted Hits:

                  You guys really believe this? Personally, I think Ukraine is just piling BS on top of BS in trying to win the hearts and minds of the west and to inflate the confidence of their people while demoralizing their opponents. It’s working, but most of it’s BS.

                  "The first casualty of war..."

                  But you may well be right.

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                  @George-K said in Three Attempted Hits:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Three Attempted Hits:

                  You guys really believe this? Personally, I think Ukraine is just piling BS on top of BS in trying to win the hearts and minds of the west and to inflate the confidence of their people while demoralizing their opponents. It’s working, but most of it’s BS.

                  "The first casualty of war..."

                  But you may well be right.

                  I would agree as well. Yesterday I received an email with a 20 minute link of a taped statement of three alleged captured OMON (special security police) . The lead spokesman identified himself as a Colonel and the other two, who had obviously been beat up, were just troopers. The troopers talked like troopers and couldn’t say much other than name, rank serial number unit and the circumstances of their capture. The colonel on the other hand was neatly dressed, hair in order and launched into a long winded diatribe of how unjust the war is, Russians should lay down their arms and go home and the like. Didn’t talk like a senior officer in any known security police service I’m aware.

                  Didn’t pass the smell test for me, the troopers may have been real, but the officer wasn’t. If he were real, his presence and statements would have been a death sentence for any living family members he may have back in Russia.

                  Elbows up!

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                    Would it actually serve Russia's interest in this conflict to be seen as having assassinated Zelensky?

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      Look at The Ghost of Kyiv thing. An urban legend starts based on an edited video game clip, then the Ukrainian government jumps in and starts feeding the flames so to speak with a picture that was from 6 years ago and then other photos that didn’t pass the sniff test…

                      I’m not saying they aren’t doing an admirable job in defense and I’m not saying he didn’t face assassination attempts, but I do think things are beyond a mild exaggeration…

                      For now the world wants to believe it. I know hard core leftists that want to ban all guns in the US cheering the Ukrainians for handing out AK-47’s… but I do wonder if there will be repercussions when everyone finds out they were manipulated?

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                      @LuFins-Dad said in Three Attempted Hits:

                      Look at The Ghost of Kyiv thing. An urban legend starts based on an edited video game clip, then the Ukrainian government jumps in and starts feeding the flames so to speak with a picture that was from 6 years ago and then other photos that didn’t pass the sniff test…

                      I actually play that game - there was a bit of discussion on the DCS World forums about him 🙂

                      I was only joking

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        Would it actually serve Russia's interest in this conflict to be seen as having assassinated Zelensky?

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                        @Horace said in Three Attempted Hits:

                        Would it actually serve Russia's interest in this conflict to be seen as having assassinated Zelensky?

                        If he could credit Ukrainian citizens who were “fed up with the war” or something.

                        Also, if you’re Putin and you need to decide whether to make him a martyr or let him live as a potential future rallying point, neither option probably seems good.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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