Training Exercise?
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I've seen several people comment that many Russian soldiers thought this was a training exercise, not a military attack.
@Renauda , can you translate the gist of this?
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I've seen several people comment that many Russian soldiers thought this was a training exercise, not a military attack.
@Renauda , can you translate the gist of this?
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@Renauda said in Training Exercise?:
I do not have access to Reddit. Let me see if I can find it elsewhere.
Here's another video of captured Russian soldiers saying it was a training exercise.
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Okay have seen both videos.
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the kid is a senior Sargent from and from what I understood in a service battalion. He is from Murmansk. He asked who is his next of kin and what is their phone number. He mumbles a lot but it seems that he was supposed to rendezvous with a fuel supply truck as part of a training exercise. Lot’s of swearing from the Ukrainians and the kid is petrified.
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Both are captured airborne troops who deployed from Crimea. The rest is the usual name, rank and serial number and lot’s swearing, while they’re not too cooperative they’re not too defiant either.
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Okay have seen both videos.
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the kid is a senior Sargent from and from what I understood in a service battalion. He is from Murmansk. He asked who is his next of kin and what is their phone number. He mumbles a lot but it seems that he was supposed to rendezvous with a fuel supply truck as part of a training exercise. Lot’s of swearing from the Ukrainians and the kid is petrified.
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Both are captured airborne troops who deployed from Crimea. The rest is the usual name, rank and serial number and lot’s swearing, while they’re not too cooperative they’re not too defiant either.
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@Mik said in Training Exercise?:
I side more with the folks that believe they were fed this story for if they were captured.
I don't see how it's remotely believable.
@Horace said in Training Exercise?:
@Mik said in Training Exercise?:
I side more with the folks that believe they were fed this story for if they were captured.
I don't see how it's remotely believable.
Hard to say. I remember a couple of Canadian Airborne troopers telling me that in 1971 during the Quebec Crisis they stood to alert on Friday evening loaded on plane late Saturday afternoon and were flown to an unknown destination. It was only when they disembarked at Dorval Airport in Montreal we’re they briefed on their mission.
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@Horace said in Training Exercise?:
@Mik said in Training Exercise?:
I side more with the folks that believe they were fed this story for if they were captured.
I don't see how it's remotely believable.
Hard to say. I remember a couple of Canadian Airborne troopers telling me that in 1971 during the Quebec Crisis they stood to alert on Friday evening loaded on plane late Saturday afternoon and were flown to an unknown destination. It was only when they disembarked at Dorval Airport in Montreal we’re they briefed on their mission.
So the training mission story is not implausible.@Renauda said in Training Exercise?:
@Horace said in Training Exercise?:
@Mik said in Training Exercise?:
I side more with the folks that believe they were fed this story for if they were captured.
I don't see how it's remotely believable.
Hard to say. I remember a couple of Canadian Airborne troopers telling me that in 1971 during the Quebec Crisis they stood to alert on Friday evening loaded on plane late Saturday afternoon and were flown to an unknown destination. It was only when they disembarked at Dorval Airport in Montreal we’re they briefed on their mission.
So the training mission story is not implausible.I'm just considering what they saw and did after deployment. If they saw and did nothing, I guess the story is plausible. But is it plausible that they saw and did nothing?
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@Renauda said in Training Exercise?:
@Horace said in Training Exercise?:
@Mik said in Training Exercise?:
I side more with the folks that believe they were fed this story for if they were captured.
I don't see how it's remotely believable.
Hard to say. I remember a couple of Canadian Airborne troopers telling me that in 1971 during the Quebec Crisis they stood to alert on Friday evening loaded on plane late Saturday afternoon and were flown to an unknown destination. It was only when they disembarked at Dorval Airport in Montreal we’re they briefed on their mission.
So the training mission story is not implausible.I'm just considering what they saw and did after deployment. If they saw and did nothing, I guess the story is plausible. But is it plausible that they saw and did nothing?
It’s a moot point. They all got captured. Doesn’t matter what story they tell. In their great grandparents’ generation and only if they were lucky , they would have been quickly interrogated then taken out back and shot. No wonder the service battalion sergeant started crying when he was asked the name and phone number of his next of kin.
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I think old Soviet doctrine and( maybe current ?) was that most simple grunts have no clue about the overall picture. Even down to the squad leaders and lieutenants.
I know here in Israel a big thing is made about keeping everyone down to the low man on the totem pole having some idea of the general picture. Most enemies know anyway the general plan of things from intelligence. And this makes the units integrate better at a tactical level without needing strategic input.
It’s only people really exposed to true secrets that are at risk when captured. And they usually don’t get captured.
