At school in Vegas
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The district is asking people not to share the video, saying, "We strongly encourage students and members of the community not to share footage of this incident or any other student fights. Showing this video serves no purpose other than to further ridicule and embarrass the victim and embolden bullies."
Please don't show everyone how we messed up.
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Welcome to the Jungle.
A couple of things going on here.
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Most students today are raised as little automatons, little cogs in the machine. Do not think, do not question. Do not worry about character, faith, fair-play, common good. In my day, a fair fight was a common school day occurence, but almost never in a class room and if somebody got whipped, so what? But nobody would have tolerated a beating against a helpless person. Nobody.
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Teachers cannot police their own classrooms. The girl doing the beating should have been taken down in a sudden and vicious manner by the teacher. Afterwards, she should have been cuffed by the resource ifficer, using whatever force was necessary. At that point, she goes to jail.
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What would be the right policy for something like this?
If you are the school administrator, the district's superintendent, or the state's secretary of education, what policy would you put out to advise staff (school employees) and students on what to do if they were to witness something like this?
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What would be the right policy for something like this?
If you are the school administrator, the district's superintendent, or the state's secretary of education, what policy would you put out to advise staff (school employees) and students on what to do if they were to witness something like this?
@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
What would be the right policy for something like this?
If you are the school administrator, the district's superintendent, or the state's secretary of education, what policy would you put out to advise staff (school employees) and students on what to do if they were to witness something like this?
Annnnnnd that's exactly why you'd watch it happen like they did.
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@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
What would be the right policy for something like this?
If you are the school administrator, the district's superintendent, or the state's secretary of education, what policy would you put out to advise staff (school employees) and students on what to do if they were to witness something like this?
Annnnnnd that's exactly why you'd watch it happen like they did.
@aqua-letifer said in At school in Vegas:
@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
What would be the right policy for something like this?
If you are the school administrator, the district's superintendent, or the state's secretary of education, what policy would you put out to advise staff (school employees) and students on what to do if they were to witness something like this?
Annnnnnd that's exactly why you'd watch it happen like they did.
The inability to articulate a coherent policy leads to inaction.
Take it closer to home, forget about being an administrator or superintendent, just take your position simply as a parent with kids in the school. What would you, as a parent, tell your own child what to do if/when she sees something like this in her class?
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@aqua-letifer said in At school in Vegas:
@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
What would be the right policy for something like this?
If you are the school administrator, the district's superintendent, or the state's secretary of education, what policy would you put out to advise staff (school employees) and students on what to do if they were to witness something like this?
Annnnnnd that's exactly why you'd watch it happen like they did.
The inability to articulate a coherent policy leads to inaction.
Take it closer to home, forget about being an administrator or superintendent, just take your position simply as a parent with kids in the school. What would you, as a parent, tell your own child what to do if/when she sees something like this in her class?
@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
@aqua-letifer said in At school in Vegas:
@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
What would be the right policy for something like this?
If you are the school administrator, the district's superintendent, or the state's secretary of education, what policy would you put out to advise staff (school employees) and students on what to do if they were to witness something like this?
Annnnnnd that's exactly why you'd watch it happen like they did.
The inability to articulate a coherent policy leads to inaction.
Take it closer to home, forget about being an administrator or superintendent, just take your position simply as a parent with kids in the school. What would you, as a parent, tell your own child what to do if/when she sees something like this in her class?
What would you tell them?
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@aqua-letifer said in At school in Vegas:
@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
What would be the right policy for something like this?
If you are the school administrator, the district's superintendent, or the state's secretary of education, what policy would you put out to advise staff (school employees) and students on what to do if they were to witness something like this?
Annnnnnd that's exactly why you'd watch it happen like they did.
The inability to articulate a coherent policy leads to inaction.
Take it closer to home, forget about being an administrator or superintendent, just take your position simply as a parent with kids in the school. What would you, as a parent, tell your own child what to do if/when she sees something like this in her class?
@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
The inability to articulate a coherent policy leads to inaction.
Some policy has been articulated
Cortez Masto praises group that called for defunding police, teaching critical race theory in schools
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Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto, D-Nev., recently praised an activist group that has pushed left-leaning ideas surrounding race and law enforcement.
The Washington Free Beacon reported that Cortez Masto said Battle Born Progress included "incredible advocates for our state." She made those comments on Nov. 3 while speaking at the self-described public relations firm's annual gala.
From 2017-2018, the group received nearly $100,000 from the Sixteen Thirty Fund, a so-called dark money group that funds liberal causes and has received money from billionaire George Soros.
Earlier this year, Battle Born Progress executive director Annette Magnus praised activist Akiko Cooks for saying that her organization wasn't focused on pushing critical race theory (CRT) "yet," noting that it was something kids should eventually learn.
"I mean, eventually, yes, we should be teaching that," she said. "Young people need to know this information. I would love to have known that information."
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@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
@aqua-letifer said in At school in Vegas:
@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
What would be the right policy for something like this?
If you are the school administrator, the district's superintendent, or the state's secretary of education, what policy would you put out to advise staff (school employees) and students on what to do if they were to witness something like this?
Annnnnnd that's exactly why you'd watch it happen like they did.
The inability to articulate a coherent policy leads to inaction.
Take it closer to home, forget about being an administrator or superintendent, just take your position simply as a parent with kids in the school. What would you, as a parent, tell your own child what to do if/when she sees something like this in her class?
What would you tell them?
@jolly said in At school in Vegas:
@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
@aqua-letifer said in At school in Vegas:
@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
What would be the right policy for something like this?
If you are the school administrator, the district's superintendent, or the state's secretary of education, what policy would you put out to advise staff (school employees) and students on what to do if they were to witness something like this?
Annnnnnd that's exactly why you'd watch it happen like they did.
The inability to articulate a coherent policy leads to inaction.
Take it closer to home, forget about being an administrator or superintendent, just take your position simply as a parent with kids in the school. What would you, as a parent, tell your own child what to do if/when she sees something like this in her class?
What would you tell them?
I'm waiting...
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@jolly said in At school in Vegas:
@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
@aqua-letifer said in At school in Vegas:
@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
What would be the right policy for something like this?
If you are the school administrator, the district's superintendent, or the state's secretary of education, what policy would you put out to advise staff (school employees) and students on what to do if they were to witness something like this?
Annnnnnd that's exactly why you'd watch it happen like they did.
The inability to articulate a coherent policy leads to inaction.
Take it closer to home, forget about being an administrator or superintendent, just take your position simply as a parent with kids in the school. What would you, as a parent, tell your own child what to do if/when she sees something like this in her class?
What would you tell them?
I'm waiting...
@jolly said in At school in Vegas:
@jolly said in At school in Vegas:
@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
@aqua-letifer said in At school in Vegas:
@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
What would be the right policy for something like this?
If you are the school administrator, the district's superintendent, or the state's secretary of education, what policy would you put out to advise staff (school employees) and students on what to do if they were to witness something like this?
Annnnnnd that's exactly why you'd watch it happen like they did.
The inability to articulate a coherent policy leads to inaction.
Take it closer to home, forget about being an administrator or superintendent, just take your position simply as a parent with kids in the school. What would you, as a parent, tell your own child what to do if/when she sees something like this in her class?
What would you tell them?
I'm waiting...
Yeah, Ax can go, then I will.
Please love yourself.
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I can tell you what Ax would do. Ax would have sat there on his ass and watched it, thankful that it wasn't him getting hit. Later on, he would tell you why the girl who did the beating was the real victim, her aggression caused by some conservative, Republican failure to enact some democrat policy.
The teacher should have picked up a chair and knocked the cold shit out of the girl doing it.
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@jolly said in At school in Vegas:
@jolly said in At school in Vegas:
@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
@aqua-letifer said in At school in Vegas:
@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
What would be the right policy for something like this?
If you are the school administrator, the district's superintendent, or the state's secretary of education, what policy would you put out to advise staff (school employees) and students on what to do if they were to witness something like this?
Annnnnnd that's exactly why you'd watch it happen like they did.
The inability to articulate a coherent policy leads to inaction.
Take it closer to home, forget about being an administrator or superintendent, just take your position simply as a parent with kids in the school. What would you, as a parent, tell your own child what to do if/when she sees something like this in her class?
What would you tell them?
I'm waiting...
Yeah, Ax can go, then I will.
@aqua-letifer said in At school in Vegas:
@jolly said in At school in Vegas:
@jolly said in At school in Vegas:
@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
@aqua-letifer said in At school in Vegas:
@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
What would be the right policy for something like this?
If you are the school administrator, the district's superintendent, or the state's secretary of education, what policy would you put out to advise staff (school employees) and students on what to do if they were to witness something like this?
Annnnnnd that's exactly why you'd watch it happen like they did.
The inability to articulate a coherent policy leads to inaction.
Take it closer to home, forget about being an administrator or superintendent, just take your position simply as a parent with kids in the school. What would you, as a parent, tell your own child what to do if/when she sees something like this in her class?
What would you tell them?
I'm waiting...
Yeah, Ax can go, then I will.
This is what I would tell them:
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If there is no school staff member (legal adult) in the room, go get a school staff member (make your way to the principal’s office, alert the first staff member you encounter along the way).
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If there is a school staff member (legal adult) in the room, let that staff member handle it.
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If you are not happy with how the school staff member is handling it, go get another school staff member (make your way to the principal’s office, alert the first staff member you encounter along the way).
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(Depending on policy/guidelines issued by the state, the district, or the school, I reserve me right to revise what I would tell the kids to work within those policy/guidelines.)
Now you folks (@Jolly, @Aqua-Letifer, @Larry, etc.) go ahead and tell me what you, if you take the position of a parent, would tell your own kid to deal with something like this if your kid were to witness it in his/her class.
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@aqua-letifer said in At school in Vegas:
@jolly said in At school in Vegas:
@jolly said in At school in Vegas:
@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
@aqua-letifer said in At school in Vegas:
@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
What would be the right policy for something like this?
If you are the school administrator, the district's superintendent, or the state's secretary of education, what policy would you put out to advise staff (school employees) and students on what to do if they were to witness something like this?
Annnnnnd that's exactly why you'd watch it happen like they did.
The inability to articulate a coherent policy leads to inaction.
Take it closer to home, forget about being an administrator or superintendent, just take your position simply as a parent with kids in the school. What would you, as a parent, tell your own child what to do if/when she sees something like this in her class?
What would you tell them?
I'm waiting...
Yeah, Ax can go, then I will.
This is what I would tell them:
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If there is no school staff member (legal adult) in the room, go get a school staff member (make your way to the principal’s office, alert the first staff member you encounter along the way).
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If there is a school staff member (legal adult) in the room, let that staff member handle it.
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If you are not happy with how the school staff member is handling it, go get another school staff member (make your way to the principal’s office, alert the first staff member you encounter along the way).
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(Depending on policy/guidelines issued by the state, the district, or the school, I reserve me right to revise what I would tell the kids to work within those policy/guidelines.)
Now you folks (@Jolly, @Aqua-Letifer, @Larry, etc.) go ahead and tell me what you, if you take the position of a parent, would tell your own kid to deal with something like this if your kid were to witness it in his/her class.
@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
@aqua-letifer said in At school in Vegas:
@jolly said in At school in Vegas:
@jolly said in At school in Vegas:
@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
@aqua-letifer said in At school in Vegas:
@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
What would be the right policy for something like this?
If you are the school administrator, the district's superintendent, or the state's secretary of education, what policy would you put out to advise staff (school employees) and students on what to do if they were to witness something like this?
Annnnnnd that's exactly why you'd watch it happen like they did.
The inability to articulate a coherent policy leads to inaction.
Take it closer to home, forget about being an administrator or superintendent, just take your position simply as a parent with kids in the school. What would you, as a parent, tell your own child what to do if/when she sees something like this in her class?
What would you tell them?
I'm waiting...
Yeah, Ax can go, then I will.
This is what I would tell them:
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If there is no school staff member (legal adult) in the room, go get a school staff member (make your way to the principal’s office, alert the first staff member you encounter along the way).
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If there is a school staff member (legal adult) in the room, let that staff member handle it.
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If you are not happy with how the school staff member is handling it, go get another school staff member (make your way to the principal’s office, alert the first staff member you encounter along the way).
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(Depending on policy/guidelines issued by the state, the district, or the school, I reserve me right to revise what I would tell the kids to work within those policy/guidelines.)
Now you folks (@Jolly, @Aqua-Letifer, @Larry, etc.) go ahead and tell me what you, if you take the position of a parent, would tell your own kid to deal with something like this if your kid were to witness it in his/her class.
Using your method, by the time you got someone to come in and put a stop to it the victim would already have had the shit kicked out of her.
What would I tell my kid? Exactly the same thing I told them when they were in school - don't start anything, but if someone else does, you finish it.
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That's what I taught my daughter. Don't start anything, but if it happens, you take any step necessary to stop the attack, rendering your attacker unable or unwilling to continue. If that means smashing their head in with whatever is available, have at it. We will deal with the consequences later.
But this bullshit we teach kids now about you should never ever fight is destructive.
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That's what I taught my daughter. Don't start anything, but if it happens, you take any step necessary to stop the attack, rendering your attacker unable or unwilling to continue. If that means smashing their head in with whatever is available, have at it. We will deal with the consequences later.
But this bullshit we teach kids now about you should never ever fight is destructive.
@mik said in At school in Vegas:
… if it happens, you take any step necessary to stop the attack, rendering your attacker unable or unwilling to continue. …
Not sure if you were responding to my question. On the off chance that you were, I would say that you have misunderstood my question. My question asks what you would tell your kid to do if she were witnessing an incident like this in her class, not as one being attacked. Please feel free to provide your answer, if you wish, for the scenario where your kid is a bystander witnessing the incident in her class, your kid herself is not the one being attacked.
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@mik said in At school in Vegas:
… if it happens, you take any step necessary to stop the attack, rendering your attacker unable or unwilling to continue. …
Not sure if you were responding to my question. On the off chance that you were, I would say that you have misunderstood my question. My question asks what you would tell your kid to do if she were witnessing an incident like this in her class, not as one being attacked. Please feel free to provide your answer, if you wish, for the scenario where your kid is a bystander witnessing the incident in her class, your kid herself is not the one being attacked.
@axtremus said in At school in Vegas:
@mik said in At school in Vegas:
… if it happens, you take any step necessary to stop the attack, rendering your attacker unable or unwilling to continue. …
Not sure if you were responding to my question. On the off chance that you were, I would say that you have misunderstood my question. My question asks what you would tell your kid to do if she were witnessing an incident like this in her class, not as one being attacked. Please feel free to provide your answer, if you wish, for the scenario where your kid is a bystander witnessing the incident in her class, your kid herself is not the one being attacked.
He did. Answer your question. It doesnt matter if his (or my) kid is the one being attacked or if it's some other kid. If his (or my) kid sees it happening, beat the shit out of the attacker. Finish it. Bring. It. To. An. End.
