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  • JollyJ Offline
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    https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2021-all-pro-team-tom-brady-jonathan-taylor-aaron-donald?fbclid=IwAR0ql3CPS9CYy9ufiMVzqQYPR0opK423nr2_cZJiGNOglIsap74up3lhPGA

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      Miles Garrett over TJ Watt? What are they smoking?

      The Brad

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      • MikM Offline
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        Stats.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          @mik said in Joe All-Pro:

          Stats.

          But what stats?

          Sacks - Watt has 22.5 (leads league), Garrett has 16
          Tackles for loss - Watt 21 (leads league), Garrett 17
          Forced Fumbles - Watt 5 (2nd), Garrett 1
          Fumbles recovered - Watt 3, Garrett 1
          Passes blocked - Watt 7, Garrett 3
          QB pressures, QB Hits, total tackles, every single stat goes to Watt, who played 200 fewer snaps than Garrett.

          And if you want to talk impact of those plays, there’s no question. At least 4 of Pittsburgh’s 9 wins came from Watt just ending a critical drive.

          I’m sure if you dig in to the stats somewhere you can find something where Garrett had more success against linemen with 3 or more vowels in their name and since most lineman have 3 or more vowels, this gives Miles a higher replacement value, but that’s ridiculous. Their position is about hitting people. Watt did that more than Garrett.

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            @mik said in Joe All-Pro:

            Stats.

            But what stats?

            Sacks - Watt has 22.5 (leads league), Garrett has 16
            Tackles for loss - Watt 21 (leads league), Garrett 17
            Forced Fumbles - Watt 5 (2nd), Garrett 1
            Fumbles recovered - Watt 3, Garrett 1
            Passes blocked - Watt 7, Garrett 3
            QB pressures, QB Hits, total tackles, every single stat goes to Watt, who played 200 fewer snaps than Garrett.

            And if you want to talk impact of those plays, there’s no question. At least 4 of Pittsburgh’s 9 wins came from Watt just ending a critical drive.

            I’m sure if you dig in to the stats somewhere you can find something where Garrett had more success against linemen with 3 or more vowels in their name and since most lineman have 3 or more vowels, this gives Miles a higher replacement value, but that’s ridiculous. Their position is about hitting people. Watt did that more than Garrett.

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            @lufins-dad said in Joe All-Pro:

            @mik said in Joe All-Pro:

            Stats.

            But what stats?

            Sacks - Watt has 22.5 (leads league), Garrett has 16
            Tackles for loss - Watt 21 (leads league), Garrett 17
            Forced Fumbles - Watt 5 (2nd), Garrett 1
            Fumbles recovered - Watt 3, Garrett 1
            Passes blocked - Watt 7, Garrett 3
            QB pressures, QB Hits, total tackles, every single stat goes to Watt, who played 200 fewer snaps than Garrett.

            And if you want to talk impact of those plays, there’s no question. At least 4 of Pittsburgh’s 9 wins came from Watt just ending a critical drive.

            I’m sure if you dig in to the stats somewhere you can find something where Garrett had more success against linemen with 3 or more vowels in their name and since most lineman have 3 or more vowels, this gives Miles a higher replacement value, but that’s ridiculous. Their position is about hitting people. Watt did that more than Garrett.

            How are the melanin stats?

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              The real All-Pro list was published today.

              https://www.nfl.com/news/2021-all-pro-team-jonathan-taylor-t-j-watt-cooper-kupp-highlight-roster

              Joe Burrow didn't make it, but TJ was a unanimous pick.

              The Brad

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