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Gain of Function

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  • George KG George K

    @lufins-dad here it is, in a nutshell: DARPA said this engineering is too close to gain-of-function work, and they declined the proposal. Someone else (EcoHealth) picked it up. SARS-CoV-2 WAS developed at Wuhan Institute of Virology by EcoHealth Alliance.

    There's more in the long PDF, but that's the gist.

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    @george-k said in Gain of Function:

    @lufins-dad here it is, in a nutshell: DARPA said this engineering is too close to gain-of-function work, and they declined the proposal. Someone else (EcoHealth) picked it up. SARS-CoV-2 WAS developed at Wuhan Institute of Virology by EcoHealth Alliance.

    There's more in the long PDF, but that's the gist.

    Thanks!

    Surprised NYT didn’t follow up on this… They had the documents.

    The Brad

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      It's in the same pile being worked on by the Hunter Biden Investigative Team.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Is this genuine? Some of the grammar looks a little 'unofficial'.

        I was only joking

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          @george-k said in Gain of Function:

          @lufins-dad here it is, in a nutshell: DARPA said this engineering is too close to gain-of-function work, and they declined the proposal. Someone else (EcoHealth) picked it up. SARS-CoV-2 WAS developed at Wuhan Institute of Virology by EcoHealth Alliance.

          There's more in the long PDF, but that's the gist.

          Thanks!

          Surprised NYT didn’t follow up on this… They had the documents.

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          George K
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          @lufins-dad said in Gain of Function:

          Surprised NYT didn’t follow up on this

          Evergreen

          Screen Shot 2022-01-11 at 7.44.38 AM.png

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            https://www.yahoo.com/now/daszaks-coronavirus-grant-rejected-pentagon-200800644.html

            Daszak's coronavirus grant was rejected by Pentagon over ‘gain of function’ concerns a year before pandemic

            Jerry Dunleavy
            October 4, 2021

            The Pentagon's research and development arm rejected a multimillion-dollar proposal by EcoHealth Alliance’s Peter Daszak in 2018 over concerns the experiments involved gain-of-function research and “could have put local communities at risk.”

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              We're only in year 2 of 5 to unravel this shit.

              At which point, Biden will simply say, "at this point, what difference does it make?"

              We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
              Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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              • ImprovisoI Improviso

                We're only in year 2 of 5 to unravel this shit.

                At which point, Biden will simply say, "at this point, what difference does it make?"

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                @improviso said in Gain of Function:

                At which point, Biden will simply say, "at this point, what difference does it make?"

                Maybe he'll say they were very good people, too.

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @improviso said in Gain of Function:

                  At which point, Biden will simply say, "at this point, what difference does it make?"

                  Maybe he'll say they were very good people, too.

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                  @doctor-phibes said in Gain of Function:

                  Maybe he'll say they were very good people, too.

                  He probably would. He lied about it in the past, after all.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @doctor-phibes said in Gain of Function:

                    Maybe he'll say they were very good people, too.

                    He probably would. He lied about it in the past, after all.

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                    @george-k said in Gain of Function:

                    @doctor-phibes said in Gain of Function:

                    Maybe he'll say they were very good people, too.

                    He probably would. He lied about it in the past, after all.

                    My point was that the 'At this point, what difference does it make' is something that is taken out of context, just as Trump's statement was.

                    For some inexplicable reason, many folks only seem to get upset about one of those pieces of dishonesty.

                    I was only joking

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                      George K
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                      Fauci responds:

                      Link to video

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Jolly
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                        Well, PJ has been blacklisted on Twitter, or so I was told. Don't know fer shur.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          It also mentions ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.

                          I give it 85% chance of being bull shit.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            It also mentions ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.

                            I give it 85% chance of being bull shit.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Gain of Function:

                            It also mentions ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.

                            I give it 85% chance of being bull shit.

                            The use of English is what makes me suspicious. There's a lot of techno-babble in there, but then it says "The reasons why nonpharmaceutical interventions like masks and medical countermeasures like the mRNA vaccines do not work..." - it struck me that the use of 'like' was a bit informal. At least, it wouldn't make it through my tech review (I can get pretty pedantic). Also, the fact that they raise the two political hot potatoes of masks and vaccines as being ineffective was a bit weird.

                            I was only joking

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              It also mentions ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.

                              I give it 85% chance of being bull shit.

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                              George K
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                              @jon-nyc said in Gain of Function:

                              It also mentions ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.

                              I give it 85% chance of being bull shit.

                              Could be. But the stuff about the gain of function, written by a DARPA guy, is that BS as well? And this is written to the DoDIG.

                              Here's what EcoHealth proposed in 2018:

                              image.png

                              IOW - they were going to cripple the virus to prevent an outbreak...and then whoopsie.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                George K
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                                Greenwald comments:

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Jolly
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                                  Are we down to 50% bullshit now? Or less?

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    Are we down to 50% bullshit now? Or less?

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                                    @jolly said in Gain of Function:

                                    Are we down to 50% bullshit now? Or less?

                                    https://theintercept.com/2022/01/12/covid-origins-fauci-redacted-emails/

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Time for Fauxi to go.

                                      Or ramrod the SOB for malfeasance and threaten to take that huge pension away.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        George K
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                                        Well...

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Copper
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                                          Now we know.

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