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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #4

    That's a great deal of work for the jury to have done and kept track of. Good job.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      My understanding of "Felony Murder" is that if a murder occurs during the act of committing a felony, even though you didn't actually commit the actual murder, you're guilty of felony murder.

      So, if a bank robber shoots and kills a guard, and you're driving the getaway car, you'd be charged with felony murder.

      I really don't understand the multiple counts.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        Me neither but this article helped:

        Prosecutors say the men committed four felonies: two counts of aggravated assault, one count of false imprisonment and one count of criminal attempt to commit false imprisonment. So the men faced four counts of felony murder.

        More at the link:

        https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/8747459002

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            #8

            Life sentences.

            https://apnews.com/article/ahmaud-arbery-georgia-race-and-ethnicity-sentencing-savannah-0d1a8ed25f1a075844160f253a9d0535

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • George KG Offline
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              The community turned out in support:

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              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Idiots.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • MikM Offline
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                  Their story did not hold up. Even if he were there to steal from a construction site, what was he going to carry away?

                  But it is hard for me to believe life without parole is justified.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    Their story did not hold up. Even if he were there to steal from a construction site, what was he going to carry away?

                    But it is hard for me to believe life without parole is justified.

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                    @mik said in Guilty:

                    Their story did not hold up. Even if he were there to steal from a construction site, what was he going to carry away?

                    But it is hard for me to believe life without parole is justified.

                    That’s another discussion that I’ve felt building in the population but to a larger extent here… It really is past time to examine the purpose, nature, and mechanism of incarceration. Is it to punish? Is it to reform? Is it to protect the public? The answer to all of these questions is yes, but to what extent?

                    The Brad

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      wrote on last edited by Mik
                      #13

                      Good questions. The other question is there a way to achieve better outcomes?

                      Still, in this case I think the felony murder rule was to some degree misapplied. Do their actions meet the letter of the law? Yeah. But these three did not set out to kill someone, and in their minds, they did not intend to commit a crime. Were they stupid and unjustified? Certainly.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        Nohilly testified Wednesday as the first prosecution witness in the criminal misconduct trial of former District Attorney Jackie Johnson, coastal Glynn County's top prosecutor when Arbery was killed nearly five years ago.

                        Georgia Attorney General Chris Carr's office is prosecuting Johnson on charges that she violated her oath of office and interfered with police investigating Arbery's killing.

                        But Johnson's defense lawyers seized on opportunities to use Nohilly and a second prosecution witness Wednesday to undercut prosecutors' arguments that Johnson abused her power to delay arrests and influence the appointment of an outside prosecutor who had decided Arbery was killed in self-defense.

                        The former DA is being prosecuted by Georgia's attorney general

                        https://www.yahoo.com/news/youre-going-home-police-tell-184036637.html

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