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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    I have a recipe that calls for shredded gruyere cheese (it's a French onion soup with meatballs).

    My store doesn't have any, well it does, but it's smoked gruyere, which I picked up.

    What else can I use, mozzarella?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
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      #2

      I’d consider Jarlsburg

      The Brad

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      • MikM Offline
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        Mik
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        Smoked should be fine. It won't affect that flavor all that much.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • KlausK Offline
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          Klaus
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          Gouda gruyere? That sounds like a contradiction. Gouda is a Dutch cheese. Gruyere is a Swiss cheese that taste very different from Gouda. I had Gruyere just yesterday, when we used it for Raclette.

          Mozzarella is even more different from Gruyere than Gouda.

          Maybe you can get Appenzeller? Or Beaufort?

          I guess the smoked variant would also be ok.

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          • KlausK Klaus

            Gouda gruyere? That sounds like a contradiction. Gouda is a Dutch cheese. Gruyere is a Swiss cheese that taste very different from Gouda. I had Gruyere just yesterday, when we used it for Raclette.

            Mozzarella is even more different from Gruyere than Gouda.

            Maybe you can get Appenzeller? Or Beaufort?

            I guess the smoked variant would also be ok.

            George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            @klaus said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

            Gouda gruyere?

            It was a bad pun on a "Good-a gruyere" alternative.

            https://www.devourdinner.com/instant-pot-french-onion-meatballs/?fbclid=IwAR1Vkw6yWe7Cl-CNANjLtkPGvgLWkmphKpkIeONVyfowYfjZcWd3pQDP0ys

            Ingredients:
            4 tablespoons butter
            2 medium sweet onions
            1/3 cup white wine
            2 cups beef broth
            2 tablespoons Dijon mustard
            1 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce
            1 tablespoon fresh thyme
            3 cloves garlic, minced
            1 tablespoon balsamic vinegar
            3 tablespoons flour
            4 ounces Gruyere cheese, grated
            1 pkg frozen Italian Meatballs

            Set Instant Pot / Pressure Cooker to Saute and wait until it reads “Hot”
            Add Butter and sliced onions and saute. Cook for 10-12 minutes or until onions begin to turn brown and caramelize. I own 4 Pressure Cookers and each one tends to saute a little differently. I find some are quicker than others. So watch your onions, they may cook faster than mine did!
            Add fresh Thyme and garlic and cook for another 1-2 minutes
            Sprinkle flour over onions and stir.
            Add 1 cup of broth to deglaze Instant Pot by lifting up any stuck bits
            Turn off Instant Pot
            Add in remaining broth, wine, mustard, balsamic vinegar, Worcestershire sauce and stir
            Place frozen meatballs on top and close lid making sure pressure valve is in the closed position
            Set to Pressure Cook High for 1 minute and Quick Release the Pressure
            Serve as an Appetizer with Toothpicks OR over Rice or Noodles as a meal

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              Emmemtal or another Swiss cheese.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • MikM Offline
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                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                Just use whatcha got. It's not worth a trip to the store. Personally, I'd prefer the smoked.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  Just use whatcha got. It's not worth a trip to the store. Personally, I'd prefer the smoked.

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  @mik said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                  I'd prefer the smoked.

                  That's the plan.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    What a disappointment.

                    I wanted French Onion Soup with some meatballs thrown in.

                    This tasted NOTHING like French Onion Soup.

                    Was it good? Yeah, on a scale of 5, about a 3, perhaps 2 ½. In other words, I wouldn't throw it out after tasting it.

                    Was it French Onion? Not at all.

                    Not. At. All.

                    Will I make it again? No way, no how. Life is too short for recipes that disappoint.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      @klaus said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                      Gouda gruyere?

                      It was a bad pun on a "Good-a gruyere" alternative.

                      https://www.devourdinner.com/instant-pot-french-onion-meatballs/?fbclid=IwAR1Vkw6yWe7Cl-CNANjLtkPGvgLWkmphKpkIeONVyfowYfjZcWd3pQDP0ys

                      Ingredients:
                      4 tablespoons butter
                      2 medium sweet onions
                      1/3 cup white wine
                      2 cups beef broth
                      2 tablespoons Dijon mustard
                      1 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce
                      1 tablespoon fresh thyme
                      3 cloves garlic, minced
                      1 tablespoon balsamic vinegar
                      3 tablespoons flour
                      4 ounces Gruyere cheese, grated
                      1 pkg frozen Italian Meatballs

                      Set Instant Pot / Pressure Cooker to Saute and wait until it reads “Hot”
                      Add Butter and sliced onions and saute. Cook for 10-12 minutes or until onions begin to turn brown and caramelize. I own 4 Pressure Cookers and each one tends to saute a little differently. I find some are quicker than others. So watch your onions, they may cook faster than mine did!
                      Add fresh Thyme and garlic and cook for another 1-2 minutes
                      Sprinkle flour over onions and stir.
                      Add 1 cup of broth to deglaze Instant Pot by lifting up any stuck bits
                      Turn off Instant Pot
                      Add in remaining broth, wine, mustard, balsamic vinegar, Worcestershire sauce and stir
                      Place frozen meatballs on top and close lid making sure pressure valve is in the closed position
                      Set to Pressure Cook High for 1 minute and Quick Release the Pressure
                      Serve as an Appetizer with Toothpicks OR over Rice or Noodles as a meal

                      KlausK Offline
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                      Klaus
                      wrote on last edited by Klaus
                      #10

                      @george-k said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                      Ingredients:
                      4 tablespoons butter
                      2 medium sweet onions
                      1/3 cup white wine
                      2 cups beef broth
                      2 tablespoons Dijon mustard
                      1 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce
                      1 tablespoon fresh thyme
                      3 cloves garlic, minced
                      1 tablespoon balsamic vinegar
                      3 tablespoons flour
                      4 ounces Gruyere cheese, grated
                      1 pkg frozen Italian Meatballs

                      2 onions in an onion soup?

                      No wonder it doesn’t taste like onion soup.

                      French onion soup is so simple that it’s hard to get wrong. This recipe manages.

                      Lots of onions, some garlic, butter, broth, white wine, bread, cheese, flour, pepper, salt. Done.

                      George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                      • KlausK Klaus

                        @george-k said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                        Ingredients:
                        4 tablespoons butter
                        2 medium sweet onions
                        1/3 cup white wine
                        2 cups beef broth
                        2 tablespoons Dijon mustard
                        1 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce
                        1 tablespoon fresh thyme
                        3 cloves garlic, minced
                        1 tablespoon balsamic vinegar
                        3 tablespoons flour
                        4 ounces Gruyere cheese, grated
                        1 pkg frozen Italian Meatballs

                        2 onions in an onion soup?

                        No wonder it doesn’t taste like onion soup.

                        French onion soup is so simple that it’s hard to get wrong. This recipe manages.

                        Lots of onions, some garlic, butter, broth, white wine, bread, cheese, flour, pepper, salt. Done.

                        George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        @klaus said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                        French onion soup is so simple that it’s hard to get wrong.

                        Believe it or not, I've never made it. So, I'll chalk this up to learning.

                        How is this recipe?

                        1/4 cup butter (1/2 stick)
                        4 medium yellow onions (about 3 pounds), sliced
                        1 tbsp sugar
                        3/4 tsp salt
                        1/4 tsp black pepper
                        1/4 cup dry white wine or sherry
                        8 cups beef broth
                        8-16 slices French bread
                        1 cup shredded Gruyère or Swiss cheese

                        Press Sauté; melt butter in Instant Pot®. Add onions; cook 15 minutes, stirring occasionally. Add sugar, salt and pepper; cook and stir 5 to 7 minutes or until onions are golden brown. Add wine; cook and stir 1 minute or until evaporated. Stir in broth; mix well.

                        Secure lid and move pressure release valve to Sealing position. Press Manual or Pressure Cook; cook at high pressure 5 minutes.
                        When cooking is complete, press Cancel and use quick release.

                        Preheat broiler.

                        Ladle soup into individual ovenproof bowls; top with 1 or 2 slices bread and about 2 tablespoons cheese. Place bowls on large baking sheet. Broil 1 to 2 minutes or until bread is toasted and cheese is melted and browned.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                        KlausK 1 Reply Last reply
                        • MikM Offline
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                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          Just got this in the mail from Bon Appetit.

                          https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/french-onion-beef-noodle-soup?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=ba&utm_mailing=BA_ROTD_010222_AM&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_medium=email&bxid=5be9fba53f92a4046938da94&cndid=43346476&hasha=2127aee77c7a5b6be2d2c611f646d27e&hashb=b1732cab800790af945568c94383a4b671277c58&hashc=58c5a091ef359c3afbf31ef509debc9b8d48d793d7f3d1a9d2ae11b824e27e86&esrc=homepage-menu&utm_term=BA_Recipe_Of_The_Day

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • George KG George K

                            @klaus said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                            French onion soup is so simple that it’s hard to get wrong.

                            Believe it or not, I've never made it. So, I'll chalk this up to learning.

                            How is this recipe?

                            1/4 cup butter (1/2 stick)
                            4 medium yellow onions (about 3 pounds), sliced
                            1 tbsp sugar
                            3/4 tsp salt
                            1/4 tsp black pepper
                            1/4 cup dry white wine or sherry
                            8 cups beef broth
                            8-16 slices French bread
                            1 cup shredded Gruyère or Swiss cheese

                            Press Sauté; melt butter in Instant Pot®. Add onions; cook 15 minutes, stirring occasionally. Add sugar, salt and pepper; cook and stir 5 to 7 minutes or until onions are golden brown. Add wine; cook and stir 1 minute or until evaporated. Stir in broth; mix well.

                            Secure lid and move pressure release valve to Sealing position. Press Manual or Pressure Cook; cook at high pressure 5 minutes.
                            When cooking is complete, press Cancel and use quick release.

                            Preheat broiler.

                            Ladle soup into individual ovenproof bowls; top with 1 or 2 slices bread and about 2 tablespoons cheese. Place bowls on large baking sheet. Broil 1 to 2 minutes or until bread is toasted and cheese is melted and browned.

                            KlausK Offline
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                            Klaus
                            wrote on last edited by Klaus
                            #13

                            How is this recipe?

                            1/4 cup butter (1/2 stick)
                            4 medium yellow onions (about 3 pounds), sliced
                            1 tbsp sugar
                            3/4 tsp salt
                            1/4 tsp black pepper
                            1/4 cup dry white wine or sherry
                            8 cups beef broth
                            8-16 slices French bread
                            1 cup shredded Gruyère or Swiss cheese

                            Press Sauté; melt butter in Instant Pot®. Add onions; cook 15 minutes, stirring occasionally. Add sugar, salt and pepper; cook and stir 5 to 7 minutes or until onions are golden brown. Add wine; cook and stir 1 minute or until evaporated. Stir in broth; mix well.

                            Secure lid and move pressure release valve to Sealing position. Press Manual or Pressure Cook; cook at high pressure 5 minutes.
                            When cooking is complete, press Cancel and use quick release.

                            Preheat broiler.

                            Ladle soup into individual ovenproof bowls; top with 1 or 2 slices bread and about 2 tablespoons cheese. Place bowls on large baking sheet. Broil 1 to 2 minutes or until bread is toasted and cheese is melted and browned.

                            Sounds about right. The ingredient list looks good. I'm a little confused by the "4 onions (3 pounds)" ingredient. 3 pounds sounds good, but that must be huge onions, then. With normal onions, 3 pounds would be more like 20 onions, I guess.

                            I'm not sure what the pressure cooking is for, but I guess it won't hurt much either.

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              We get big onions here, between the size of a baseball and a softball.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • MikM Mik

                                We get big onions here, between the size of a baseball and a softball.

                                KlausK Offline
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                                Klaus
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                @mik said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                                We get big onions here, between the size of a baseball and a softball.

                                I bet even just two of them weigh multiple pounds.

                                cb30dea0-bde3-460f-8359-0430d51b390b-image.png

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                                • KlausK Klaus

                                  @mik said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                                  We get big onions here, between the size of a baseball and a softball.

                                  I bet even just two of them weigh multiple pounds.

                                  cb30dea0-bde3-460f-8359-0430d51b390b-image.png

                                  George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @klaus we're talking onions here, not melons.

                                  Please try to keep up.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @klaus we're talking onions here, not melons.

                                    Please try to keep up.

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                                    wrote on last edited by
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                                    @george-k said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                                    @klaus we're talking onions here, not melons.

                                    Please try to keep up.

                                    I thought every vaguely ball-like fruit or vegetable works as a name for female breasts, and every vaguely elongated one works for penis in the English language?

                                    Educate me on this important matter!

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                                      #18

                                      I will but I’m too busy waxing my eggplant before dinner.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        I will but I’m too busy waxing my eggplant before dinner.

                                        MikM Offline
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                                        Mik
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                                        #19

                                        @jon-nyc said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                                        I will but I’m too busy waxing my eggplant jalapeño before dinner.

                                        FIFY

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          @jon-nyc said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                                          I will but I’m too busy waxing my eggplant jalapeño before dinner.

                                          FIFY

                                          George KG Offline
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                                          George K
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                                          #20

                                          @mik said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                                          @jon-nyc said in Looking for a gouda gruyere alternative:

                                          I will but I’m too busy waxing my eggplant jalapeño before dinner.

                                          FIFY

                                          Yah...

                                          Jalapeños are MUCH smaller than eggplants.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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